Found Deceased VA - Morgan Dana Harrington, 20, Charlottesville, 17 Oct 2009 - #7

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  • #101
It could be true or not. MAybe they wanted her to quit and she said she did but didn't. I guess her friends are the only ones that would really know.


True, and if she was drinking at all she could have had a relapse because many former smokers really have the urge to smoke when having a drink or two.

I was just throwing it out there because it's been said she probably went outside to smoke.
 
  • #102
True, and if she was drinking at all she could have had a relapse because many former smokers really have the urge to smoke when having a drink or two.

I was just throwing it out there because it's been said she probably went outside to smoke.

And just to note that's not likely the complete answer, because there are smoking areas concertgoers can use without having to exit the arena (and bathrooms)...but, if she hadn't smoked for awhile and then did, dizziness, nausea, or a pretty severe head rush could result...
 
  • #103
If she'd recently quit and was in the environment she could have been tempted.... just a thought
 
  • #104
I don't mean to be disrespectful but what exactly do you have against Morgan's brother? I've just noticed alot of your posts about him contain a biting, sarcastic tone, and I don't think he's done anything to deserve it. He's a victim of this crime just as much as Mr and Mrs Harrington are.

ITA

Unfortunately for this poor family, this reaction to someone who is completely innocent in this case may be the very reason that MH's brother has stayed behind the scenes. I am sure that it is not the first time he has been unfairly labeled, criticized, and accused just because of his appearance and lifestyle choices. This is obviously undeserved and unfair in every respect. He is completely innocent and has the right to grieve and react in whatever way he is able to do. For all we know, he is not on camera because he is actually out LOOKING for MH or making phone calls to keep distant family updated, or trying to get more information from friends in a way that only he could do. Maybe he doesn't want to or care to spend his time changing a my space or face book entry....what does it matter whether he changes it? There are plenty of others with the needed information, one more is certainly not going to make or break this case in any way.

jmoo
 
  • #105
ITA

Unfortunately for this poor family, this reaction to someone who is completely innocent in this case may be the very reason that MH's brother has stayed behind the scenes. I am sure that it is not the first time he has been unfairly labeled, criticized, and accused just because of his appearance and lifestyle choices. This is obviously undeserved and unfair in every respect. He is completely innocent and has the right to grieve and react in whatever way he is able to do. For all we know, he is not on camera because he is actually out LOOKING for MH or making phone calls to keep distant family updated, or trying to get more information from friends in a way that only he could do. Maybe he doesn't want to or care to spend his time changing a my space or face book entry....what does it matter whether he changes it? There are plenty of others with the needed information, one more is certainly not going to make or break this case in any way.

jmoo

because i believe he is a fairly recent uva grad. which would mean there is a chance many of his friends went there, may still be in the area or can repost on theirs to and others who are their will see.
 
  • #106
I'm brand new to the boards -- very first post! So, my apologies in advance if I do something incorrectly.

I just wanted to relay some info that could be taken into account when looking at MH's state of mind the evening of the concert.
I have very low blood pressure, experience migraine headaches, and suffer from crippling anxiety attacks (the last two, migraines & anxiety attacks, are very rare, but do happen at least 1 time each per year).
The reason I bring this up is because all three of these conditions I have, have caused me to become disoriented, confused, trip, fall, and in one particularly bad instance, lose my purse, fall & hit my head (knocked unconscious) only to wake up in the hospital without any identification or phone with me!! (VERY SCARY situation!!) The doctor's ran all sorts of tests and could only determine that it was a combination of my low BP, a migraine I was coming down from, and having smoked a couple cigarettes just an hour or two prior to the incident (I typically only smoked about 7 cigarettes a week -- no more since then!!) Since my BP is so low naturally cigarettes really gave me a headrush.
I don't know anything about Miss Herrington's medical history (nor is it my business), but I would not be surprised to hear that she suffers from any of the ailments I've listed above. Had she been smoke-free for 6 months only makes it seem more likely that she could have experienced some sort of issue with her blood pressure. Anxiety attack would not be surprising either. I know when I have one, I don't care if I was scheduled to meet Brad Pitt, my mind becomes so focused on "escaping" the anxiety that I'd turn and walk the other way.

One other thing I want to mention, and I don't wish to slander anyone or drag anyone through the mud. But, this was the first thing I thought of when I heard of MH's disappearance.
I have a friend who, about 20 years ago (days before cell phones & facebooks!), when he was MH's age (18-19), had a party in his home with several of his male friends. I think there was about 12-15 of them, drinking and parting at his home (he was in college at the time, living with a roommate). The next morning, they'd realized that one of the friends had not woken up & then discovered he was dead. Being young, scared, and having been doing something illegal (underage drinking), they were completely at a loss for how to respond. They were terrified. My friend, due to his age and fear, automatically thought he'd get life in prison because someone died in his house. The other men thought they'd be accomplices because they were all drinking together. Simply, they were not thinking logically or coherently; they were all in a state of shock. For hours they deliberated on "what to do with the body". Their ideas were as outlandish as throwing the body out of a moving car, off a cliff, etc. THIS WAS THEIR BEST FRIEND'S BODY they were talking about!! They thought they could make the whole situation go away by distancing themselves from his corpse. Ultimately, they dropped the body off at an ER and left without identifying themselves. And, of course, it all came out in the end. (My friend was charged with a crime, although I can't remember what it was, and he did pay for his actions). Like I said, this was the first thing I thought of when I heard about this case; there are too many inconsistencies and unclear information about the whole time the MH & her friends were at the concert. I just don't know what to think.

Nevertheless, I really feel for this girl. I am keeping her (and her strong family) in my thoughts & prayers. I don't know why this case has touched me in the way it has.

Thank you,
Liv
 
  • #107
Welcome, Liv. Great first post. :) Thank you for sharing the stories with us. I think all of us here have been touched by this case and are wondering like you why Morgan has captivated us. Something tells me that she has probably captivated many people in her life.
 
  • #108
I forgot to mention that the death of my friend's friend was due to alcohol poisoning. Plain and simple.

Sorry for leaving out that point,
Liv
 
  • #109
I don't mean to be disrespectful but what exactly do you have against Morgan's brother? I've just noticed alot of your posts about him contain a biting, sarcastic tone, and I don't think he's done anything to deserve it. He's a victim of this crime just as much as Mr and Mrs Harrington are.

I think if you read the last paragraph of my posting...you might see my reason.
 
  • #110
ITA

Unfortunately for this poor family, this reaction to someone who is completely innocent in this case may be the very reason that MH's brother has stayed behind the scenes. I am sure that it is not the first time he has been unfairly labeled, criticized, and accused just because of his appearance and lifestyle choices. This is obviously undeserved and unfair in every respect. He is completely innocent and has the right to grieve and react in whatever way he is able to do. For all we know, he is not on camera because he is actually out LOOKING for MH or making phone calls to keep distant family updated, or trying to get more information from friends in a way that only he could do. Maybe he doesn't want to or care to spend his time changing a my space or face book entry....what does it matter whether he changes it? There are plenty of others with the needed information, one more is certainly not going to make or break this case in any way.

jmoo

Well let me have my say and then lets end it. I am sure others are tired of this discussion. I know I am. You are reading into and not listening to me.

I look at Gil and Dan Harrington and my heart goes out to them. They are in great pain and suffering. Their beloved Morgan is missing. Then they look and the man who should be holding them up is...doing all the grieving.

Once again..there is a time for laughing and a time for crying..a time for weeping and a time for dying...right now..lets all man up.
 
  • #111
From UVA basketball forum:

http://www.thesabre.com/message_board/basketball/2009/November/12/1142031.php

...I can confirm this much. I have an employee that was parked
outside the JPJ all evening waiting for passengers. He saw a girl that
matched the description of Morgan, down to what she was wearing. He
also saw her interact outside the arena with 3 "very tall" black men, and
saw them walking together towards U-Hall. They passed right in front of
his vehicle. My employee has spoken to the police 3 times since that
evening about what he saw. This certainly doesn't prove anything at all
relative to any UVA basketball players, but unfortunately it does give the
story some credibility. When my emplouee told me the story, my fisrt
thought was please,please,please, don't let any basketball players be
involved in this.
 
  • #112
I would like to apologize to both Raeann and MIa for "my" rudness to them. I was trying to quote and make my point but in doing so I was unkind. We are new friends and I would like to have you think well of me.

Sorry for taking the boards time.
 
  • #113
This sounds like early posts from a limo driver ....
 
  • #114
I don't know about all of that. Yes I am pretty sure he is gay but I live in a pretty conservative area, the midwest, and I find gay people in my workplace and also neighborhood quite accepted. Because they make themselves acceptable. Granted if they started parading around in the gear he has on in the picture eyebrows would lift a bit and then they would go down again.

I am sure Alex is in touch with his sexuality and not afraid to show his grief because somebody had him curled up in Morgans bed trying to get to her smell..or some such nonsense.

I find the "family pictures" I see with him looking fine. I think he must have respected his parents.

My point is this is not his time to break down. The world needs him now..this is his moment to shine..this could take him to the next level. This could make Alex special.

I wonder if anybody ever had a "tough love" talk with Alex.

Sorry I am way off topic of finding Morgan. I was a real tough love mom. They are all gone now and I am so very proud of them. I just want Alex to be all that he can be. I guess that will not be up to me. I rest my case.

What are you talking about? His time to shine? He needs "tough love"?

I don't think he would use the time his sister is missing god knows what happened to shine
I don't think he needs tough love. Just because you gave your kids tough love doesn't mean others have to.

You have something against her brother?

The best way for Alex to be "all he can be" is to be himself.
 
  • #115
Wes please refresh my mind..I will try to find that map. Where exactly is UHall? This certainly takes her off the bridge that night. I always wondered about that.
 
  • #116
Wes please refresh my mind..I will try to find that map. Where exactly is UHall? This certainly takes her off the bridge that night. I always wondered about that.

UHall is just south of JPJ, literally across Massie Road and set back a bit. The parking lot for UHall (where the basketball team practices?) is mostly on the west side and then across Copeley Road from that is the R.V. lot. Then Copeley bridge is further away from the arena and the R.V. lot on Copeley Road, heading toward Ivy road. All in the same zone on the official time line.

Sadly, it seems to me not much new info here (except that she was walking in the parking lot with them, presumably toward their cars in Lannigan Field/R.V. lot, not just someone she met after wandering aimlessly to the R.V. lot).
 
  • #117
Wes please refresh my mind..I will try to find that map. Where exactly is UHall? This certainly takes her off the bridge that night. I always wondered about that.

It's across the street from the RV lot. Entering the sports complex from Ivy road, once you cross the bridge where she was last spotted - to the right is UHall and to the left is the RV lot. UHall is the nickname for the old basketball arena, University Hall.
 
  • #118
I was just thinking wasn't there a sighting of a blonde girl with Morgans clothes description walking with three males. I think it was the paper delivery person? I forget where the sighting was right now.
 
  • #119
Sadly, it seems to me not much new info here (except that she was walking in the parking lot with them, presumably toward their cars in Lannigan Field/R.V. lot, not just someone she met after wandering aimlessly to the R.V. lot).

It is old info, but now it puts things in a little better perspective. Initially we heard she interacted with some people outside JPJ and then in the RV lot. Early on I thought it was other concert-goers or tailgaters who were outside the arena partying in the RV lot. For some reason, even after it was reported the RV lot had reserved parking for athletes, I was still under the impression it also had RV's that came to the concert. But apparently it was reserved totally for athletes and that the people she interacted with their wasn't "partiers" but rather basketball players. That would explain why the report said they ended up leaving, since they never were there for the concert.

And, I don't think the players had anything to do with it since it was reported they left and she was seen minutes later at the bridge. But it does clear up, for me at least, that there wasn't some partying concert goers in that lot in RV's.
 
  • #120
I was just thinking wasn't there a sighting of a blonde girl with Morgans clothes description walking with three males. I think it was the paper delivery person? I forget where the sighting was right now.

Paper woman claims to have seen MH Sunday a.m. around 3:00 (or 3:30?) while delivering papers in the Academical Village (near the Rotunda and kind of the center of UVA's main grounds).

Also someone stood up at the search organizing meeting and said she and her husband, exiting a wedding held in a room in the Academical Village, had seen MH and 3 males (though I believe Caucasian), and iirc somewhat earlier in the evening.

Finally, there was an early report (never substantiated) of MH walking on Emmet Street south of Ivy Road late Saturday evening with 3 males (dressed in black?).

Wonder if any of the three basketball players live in the Academical Village, a place reserved for top 3rd and 4th year undergrads?
 
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