VA - Nicole Lovell, 13, Blacksburg, 27 January 2016 #1 *Arrests*

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  • #641
Because he is a psychopath? Most of these guys start much earlier than we used to think. Think about how young some killers are when arrested these days. There was not the mind-set to look at teenage boys back when Bundy and others were getting started. That is how he got away with it for so long.

I have seen it myself with 16 and 17 yr old boys sniffing around the 12 yr old girls. My son is 4 yrs older than my daughter. When she was 12 and 13, she would get weird 'messages' or IM's or posts on her Myspace from boys that knew my son from hockey or baseball. They'd message her and say Hey, Im a friend of your brothers, you are hot' -- ugh -- This was 16 yr olds IMing a 12 yr old. Luckliy my daughter thought it was creepy too. It would have been very scary if she fell for it.
 
  • #642
I can't help but wonder if DE went to her room and the assault and murder happened there. Perhaps he removed her in her minion blanket and her body was later disposed of. Poor Nichole. She had no idea at 13 what evil monsters are lurking out in the world. Rest peacefully young one. Prayers for her family and friends.

When I first read about the divers in the pond I thought about the minion blanket. Maybe they wrapped something in it (weapon?), or it had evidence on it and they weighted it down and threw it in there... all speculation of course... I'm just waiting for the minion blanket to pop back up in the news/LE reports. Or maybe the blanket has no significance at all and we won't hear about it ever again.
 
  • #643
I stalk my daughters college yik yak people are always looking to hook up


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Good for you.....my friends teenager accused her of stalking her and my friend said " damn right....I've spent over $100,00.00 on you since you were born....and you are an investment and I am just keeping an eye on my investments".........
 
  • #644
OMG! How do you get a 19 yr old college girl to help you dump a 13 yr olds body? WTH?
 
  • #645
Good for you.....my friends teenager accused her of stalking her and my friend said " damn right....I've spent over $100,00.00 on you since you were born....and you are an investment and I am just keeping an eye on my investments".........

LOL. Great answer. My daughter used to get mad at me for snooping and 'lurking her' when I'd make her answer my texts when she was out with friends. Years later she has apologized and said how happy she is that we did that. Now she realizes she was loved and protected and she is glad to have that feeling. At the time it annoyed her to no end, of course.
 
  • #646
If you look it up on Urban Dictionary, you'll see exactly what it means and it clarifies exactly what was going on, IMO.

JMO

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There are multiple meanings for a lot of things. I'd guess that just means "I guess." Plus, Urban Dictionary often has some incredibly obscure stuff that neither of these people would be using.
 
  • #647
Is this the interview you're talking about? I don't see anything creepy, in fact I'd say 'go girl' if my granddaughter said she was dating him. Could someone post the creepy link, please? TIA
[video=youtube;V9L2QDhOJVU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9L2QDhOJVU[/video]

Wow. Just watching this finally. Unbelievable! Not creepy at all here imo. How on earth did he end up killing a 13 year old girl?

Eta: I'm rarely ever surprised but now I'm surprised.

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  • #649
Wow. Just watching this finally. Unbelievable! Not creepy at all here imo. How on earth did he end up killing a 13 year old girl?

Yup I felt the same. But then, Russell Williams didn't seem creepy to anyone, nor did Philip Chism, or countless other murderers. How many times I've read it that family and friends were utterly shocked, in disbelief, etc, I can't even count. I guess keeping those dark urges a well kept secret is part of a murderer's psychological make-up.
 
  • #650
I think this is a case of two people who were not getting the attention they wanted from their own peers so they looked outside of it. For Nicole, I doubt she was getting attention from the boys at her school so she looked to the Internet. I think people are also exaggerating about how many girls David could get---I heard someone saying he could get thousands of girls at VT. Um...no, I have no doubt there are thousands of girls who are looking to hook up, it doesn't mean that David would be their choice. I know plenty of guys in college and I now work with all guys in their early-mid 20's who are attractive, good personalities and have a hard time getting hookups. I know all of their lack of success on Tinder lol. On Tinder, there are thousands of guys to choose from---what would make David stand out from guys who are much hotter? So I wouldn't be surprised if he thought that when he got to college, he would have a new girl every night, and when that didn't happen, he started looking for other methods to find girls and looking at girls who were much younger than him. Like ok, the bar scene, the Tinder app isn't working...let me see if I can get some attention from young girls on a FB page for teenagers. It's also possible that David was getting attention, but not from the girls he wanted.
 
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I'd be curious to find out what kind of relationships David had with girls his age. My granddaughter goes to River Hill which is in that school area. She has friends at Wilde Lake, I'll ask her if she knows anything.
 
  • #653
I think this is a case of two people who were not getting the attention they wanted from their own peers so they looked outside of it. For Nicole, I doubt she was getting attention from the boys at her school so she looked to the Internet. I think people are also exaggerating about how many girls David could get---I heard someone saying he could get thousands of girls at VT. Um...no, I have no doubt there are thousands of girls who are looking to hook up, it doesn't mean that David would be their choice. I know plenty of guys in college and I now work with all guys in their early-mid 20's who are attractive, good personalities and have a hard time getting hookups. I know all of their lack of success on Tinder lol. On Tinder, there are thousands of guys to choose from---what would make David stand out from guys who are much hotter? So I wouldn't be surprised if he thought that when he got to college, he would have a new girl every night, and when that didn't happen, he started looking for other methods to find girls and looking at girls who were much younger than him. Like ok, the bar scene, the Tinder app isn't working...let me see if I can get some attention from young girls on a FB page for teenagers. It's also possible that David was getting attention, but not from the girls he wanted.

I don't know. Wanting to "hook up" isn't a reason to take a 13 year old child from her room with a minion blanket. That screams pedophile to me, not teen age boy looking to hook up.
 
  • #654
Wow. Just watching this finally. Unbelievable! Not creepy at all here imo. How on earth did he end up killing a 13 year old girl?

Eta: I'm rarely ever surprised but now I'm surprised.

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I completely agree - not creepy. But I will say he seems brushed with autism or aspergers. He reminds me of this kid who was in our boy scout troop. Whenever a kid rose to a new rank, they'd have to get up and say something they will remember about the pathway to achieving that rank. So at tenderfoot, all the boys got up there giggling and some said they liked to play with fire, some laughed about the flies in the latrine they had to clean out, etc., but this one 12 year old (who looks like David actually and runs cross country) said he had grown a lot and learned very much and when he's a father he hopes his son will be in a troop as fine as this one. What, kid?? Brushed with autism.
 
  • #655
I don't know. Wanting to "hook up" isn't a reason to take a 13 year old child from her room with a minion blanket. That screams pedophile to me, not teen age boy looking to hook up.

If David is using Tinder and isn't having much luck (having a promising future is not going to get you hookups), he might start looking at girls younger. To them, he's this ~hot~ older guy who is giving them attention. If an 18-year-old is "interested" in a 13-year-old girl, that tells me he could not get girls his own age. It's not like he was abducted a random girl, this is a girl he likely talked to online before agreeing to meet.
 
  • #656
Is this the interview you're talking about? I don't see anything creepy, in fact I'd say 'go girl' if my granddaughter said she was dating him. Could someone post the creepy link, please? TIA
[video=youtube;V9L2QDhOJVU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9L2QDhOJVU[/video]

Yes, many have suggested he seems/seemed creepy in this interview from last year. I don't see it at all, I see a really smart, confident kid. I think sometimes *after the fact*, after we know what someone has been charged with, we tend to see things that may not really be there.

moo.
 
  • #657
I really don't think he killed her in her bedroom. She lived with her mom and grandfather. They stated that they believed she moved the dresser in front of her door and climbed out of the window.

If she willingly climbed out of her window to meet someone - at what point would they consider it abduction? (which is one of the charges)
 
  • #658
I know her parents thought she herself had pushed the dresser in front of the bedroom door and climbed out the window.

I think that abduction charge would apply no matter how she left her room, wouldn't it? He is a legal adult and she is a minor child.
 
  • #659
I really don't think he killed her in her bedroom. She lived with her mom and grandfather. They stated that they believed she moved the dresser in front of her door and climbed out of the window.

If she willingly climbed out of her window to meet someone - at what point would they consider it abduction? (which is one of the charges)

Maybe he pushed the dresser? Why would she take a blanket...maybe using it as a coat? Anyway, kidnapping because she was underage and he didn't have moms permission to take her?
 
  • #660
I really don't think he killed her in her bedroom. She lived with her mom and grandfather. They stated that they believed she moved the dresser in front of her door and climbed out of the window.

If she willingly climbed out of her window to meet someone - at what point would they consider it abduction? (which is one of the charges)

My guess is she's a minor so him transporting her away from her home without her parents' permission is the moment at which it became abduction.
 
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