VA - Nicole Lovell, 13, Blacksburg, 27 January 2016 #3 *Arrests*

[whiskers]

There is another punk on Instagram that played with Nicole's emotions. Some of you probably found his account. It looks like he trolls for girls on Kik. He's a nasty piece of work. There are numerous messages from girls on his Insta to leave them alone and one even warning Nicole about him. From what I can piece together with the messages Nicole left on his Insta's, she fell for him fairly hard.

I hope LE is questioning him. She may have texted him something leading up to meeting DE.

 

[PrivateEye006]

Yet it is people who cast these very same judgments that will aplaude the, "It Takes A Village" mentality.

I'm not sure I understand the direction of your response. If referring to my own comments-- they were meant to be more of open ended discussions. Most certainly not judgements. And while I believe it to be true that home is where your foundation begins-I certainly respect, participate and acknowledge the many roles others play in building our children up and preparing them for the world ahead of them. I think or at least tried to make my point of view very clear on my direction with the statement and questions. Always looking to open my mind and ears to hearing what others may have to say...would have appreciated the ability to clarify before casting judgement on my thoughts. But that's ok.... Not important.

 

[jenves]

http://wsls.com/2016/02/04/commonwe...omething-secret-and-special-in-lovell-murder/


This may have been cited before but I am sharing because it shows additional (booking) photos taken of NK. It is most definitely hair not a cut.

Watch video at link for more shots

 

[jenves]

I don't think we know if meds were new, and/or if she had been on meds previously. This article states that she had received Christian counseling before attending college and that she prayed to God to "never do anything suicidal again". http://wsls.com/2016/02/04/commonwe...omething-secret-and-special-in-lovell-murder/

It also states that she sought counseling from a counselor at Cook Counseling Center at VA Tech and was prescribed meds by a psychiatrist in August of 2015.
Here, it states that the psychiatrist prescribed 40 mg of Prozac. There is no mention in either article of her being on meds prior to this.
"Additionally, Keepers went to a psychiatrist, Dr. Arbuckle, who prescribed 40mg of Prozac and anti-anxiety medication."
http://wset.com/news/local/suspect-in-13-year-olds-murder-in-court-today
The article also states that the therapist discontinued treatment in December of 2015. So I would assume she was not presenting as homicidal.

That article is helpful. You are right. I don't think we really know any of it.

 

[flower_girl]

There is so much talk about NK but almost nothing about DE. What is happening with him?????

 

[2Hope4]

The girl who confided in the resource officer was discussed several pages back. Many felt the girl was not lying. (I am one of them).
I firmly believe we are seeing major CYA at the expense of a child. Sad.

Exactly!!! The same school that didn't stop the bullying??? Yeah, total CYA. That student's account of what was going on was the truth! She did post on Nicole's SM warning her of age difference, how gross it was, etc. So yes, I believe she did reach out for help, just like Nicole reached out for help, and look where it got them! NOTHING DONE!

 

[wgram]

There is another punk on Instagram that played with Nicole's emotions. Some of you probably found his account. It looks like he trolls for girls on Kik. He's a nasty piece of work. There are numerous messages from girls on his Insta to leave them alone and one even warning Nicole about him. From what I can piece together with the messages Nicole left on his Insta's, she fell for him fairly hard.

I hope LE is questioning him. She may have texted him something leading up to meeting DE.

yeah I seen that too he is the one that called her ugly and he is the one that her friend told her he looked 25. Yep I think that boy was horrible

 

[Ontario Mom]

I have a question regarding KIK-- looking for insight.
Why is KIK to blame for this?
Why are they being scrutinized?
Is KIK expected to do the job of parents?
I'm going to say this and I do not mean any disrespect at all... But I would be remiss to not be open and voice my thoughts on how blame seems to be spread to all sorts of channels when something like this happens. Social media, groups, schools, neighbors, etc. when did it become someone else's job to raise and mentor our kids? And when is it alright to disagree- especially in the event of tragedy like this.
We have seen NUMEROUS inappropriate sites, threads, discussions and comments by the very naive and confused victim. And I truly feel sadness in my heart that she was so desperately looking for fullfiment. But what confuses me-- is that she didn't appear to be starving for affection from friends or the community...: but boys/men. And before blame keeps getting thrashed on everyone else... I'm left wondering if her parents saw these signs? Vulgar posts? Cries on social for acceptance from boys/men. Did she get help?
Nobody has never not experienced some sort of bullying. Esp at that age. You have to be a Barbie doll at that point in your life for the boys to start looking. But it appears on all accounts she had friends and such. So define the bullying. Just a few pre puberty boys who act stupid? That was a quick five minute discussion with my parents. Is that ok to allow our 13 year old to not regularly attend school? Not seek help for them or provide guidance and teach them how to rise above this?
I think kids coming up now don't get the same speech most of us 30 something and over got from our parents. Coming up a lot of us were raised with the theory of "this is life, a stage, it will pass" "how can I help you get through this" " I understand your pain-- but you cannot use this as a crutch to miss school, underachieve, disregard rules and authority" etc. I see a lot of excuses as to why the mentality may have been what it was--- but I've heard nothing pertaining to what may have been done to provide the necessary guidance to move on, build and grow from it.
I hope this comes of right-- as my heart is huge. And my empathy towards others often leads me to be a push over.... But I have a hard time understanding why what appears to be lack of a solid foundation at home becomes the fault of everyone else in the community and now social media and law enforcement.

ALL legit questions, no two ways about it. THIS is the conversation we can't shy away from while at the same time showing respect and compassion for the victims in this situation. TOUGH questions, straight answers and without excuses. I have no doubt many feel exactly the same. I know I do.

 

[Ontario Mom]

http://wsls.com/2016/02/04/commonwe...omething-secret-and-special-in-lovell-murder/


This may have been cited before but I am sharing because it shows additional (booking) photos taken of NK. It is most definitely hair not a cut.

Watch video at link for more shots

As I suspected all along.

 

[katydid23]

There is so much talk about NK but almost nothing about DE. What is happening with him?????

I think we are all so curious about NK because it is so surprising and odd that a female college student was involved in this horrendous crime. A young male, not so surprising at all.

 

[wgram]

Something I want to throw out here. I seen that they met at the local Cookout Restaurant. If my memory serves me correct
Nicole's mother works just a few feet from that restaurant. I used to see her at the store where she worked. I haven't been there for quite some time so I am not sure if she still does work there but can you imagine?? Finding out your daughters killers were plotting their evil act right nearby?
This is also very close to where they live. I would say that its maybe a mile from Nicole's home? Its been about a year since I have been in that shopping area in that lot... I used to go to cookout as well. Sad to think about all this.

 

[trixandhoney]

I think we are all so curious about NK because it is so surprising and odd that a female college student was involved in this horrendous crime. A young male, not so surprising at all.

And unlike NK, DE hasn't requested bond, so the prosecution hasn't needed to release any info as to why it shouldn't be granted.

 

[JanetElaine]

There is so much talk about NK but almost nothing about DE. What is happening with him?????

He hasn't requested bail (yet). All of this today came about as a result of Natalie's bail hearing, so it's not that surprising that the focus is mainly on her and her role in this. I'm sure if DE requests a bail hearing, we will hear a lot about his involvement. But since Natalie's bail was denied, I have a feeling DE isn't even going to try. Too much will come out with little chance of success for him.

Just MOO.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Oh my. The mother of the young girl who was named in the article about reporting to the officer at the school has posted a comment there. She's not happy at all.

Not seeing it on that post linked.

 

[DatelineFan]

Random, and slightly off topic, but I wonder if LE has found any other predators online as a result of this investigation.

 

[LaborDayRN]

Not seeing it on that post linked.

It was posted 1 hour ago. Initial's are B.P.

 

[BlueberryBird]

And how much grade inflation is going on in northern Virginia?

A lot. It is ridiculous.

 

[Ontario Mom]

It was posted 1 hour ago. Initial's are B.P.

Yep, she's ticked off. This isn't going to go away. I smell a lawsuit coming.

 

[Elainera]

"We sat down and bounced around ideas of how to kill N." A quote from MSM ABC Local. Link below. Also from the link below:
They drove down Craig Creek Road, where she helped DE load the body into the back of his Lexus. Then, the drove to Walmart...and kept driving to NC.

Am I reading this correctly? This would imply that NL's body was left for a period of time on or around Craig Creek Road after DE or DE & NK murdered her - then they came back to the body to load it into his car and drive to NC. This would also mean that NL's deceased body was in the Lexus while they shopped at Walmart.


http://wset.com/news/local/suspect-in-13-year-olds-murder-in-court-today

Appears the FBI has recently (within the last 7 hours) asked for additional info on NL. Link below.


https://twitter.com/fbimostwanted?lang=en

bbm - Nicole might have been lying in the back seat or passenger seat.

http://wsls.com/2016/02/04/commonwe...omething-secret-and-special-in-lovell-murder/


This may have been cited before but I am sharing because it shows additional (booking) photos taken of NK. It is most definitely hair not a cut.

Watch video at link for more shots

She looks utterly crushed in that second photo.

 

[whiskers]

I didn't realize that was the guy who her friend thought was 25. He looks like a teenager to me. Zits and all. And you can see his little twin bed in some photos. His little game is all about trolling girls and false love. He needs a good slap across the face.

yeah I seen that too he is the one that called her ugly and he is the one that her friend told her he looked 25. Yep I think that boy was horrible