GUILTY VA - Noah Thomas, 5, Pulaski County, 22 March 2015 #1

[MamaJoJo]

They cannot put out an Amber Alert without meeting the criteria. It's a very strict system and has to be followed exactly as stated.

Exactly. There is no car description, no POI, nothing. I was wondering why the Sheriff would have said that yesterday when they can't meet the criteria for issuing an AA.

 

[daisy7]

They cannot put out an Amber Alert without meeting the criteria. It's a very strict system and has to be followed exactly as stated.

And it varies from state to state what the criteria is and also from case to case whether one will be issued. Also, AAs are usually issued almost mmediately and typically last only 2 days. IMO.

 

[thepinkdragon]

I still think he was abducted. He could be anywhere.

 

[jadejazzkayla]

The parents -

They are under extreme stress
The mother likely feels incredible guilt for being asleep while this happened. The father likely feels incredible guilt as well.
They are working with and taking cues from LE as to what to do and what not to do.

Whether they were involved or not, their behavior can't be expected to be "normal" right now.

blazet -is this post snippets from the PC or are they your own thoughts. thank you for summarizing PC by the way.

 

[A-Christie]

(WSLS 10) - Members of the community announced Tuesday morning they plan to hold a prayer vigil for missing 5-year-old Noah Thomas.
Residents say on Thursday, March 26, 2015, there will be a prayer vigil at the Bland County Fairgrounds Pavilion at 8:00 p.m. This is part of a community effort in Bland County.

Organizers of the vigil say administrators of the Facebook page "Help Find Missing Noah Thomas" [www.facebook.com/findmissingnoahthomas] have been invited to attend. They're asking folks to come and join them.

Organizers say those who choose to attend, to please bring a candle.



http://www.wsls.com/story/28598208/bland-co-community-set-to-hold-prayer-vigil-for-noah-thomas

 

[Sweetgrits]

I agree, I don't believe he was picked up. But coming from my point of view if my kid went missing I'd be going crazy and I would get on the news and speak and beg everyone for there help. The news doesn't always get information right but the news is helpful in getting the word out if you get on there and speak for yourself. I just think a lot of it is fishy. Just my opinion.

I agree with you, I think I would be on the news as many times as they would let me if my child was missing. But I'm not a shy person so I would not have a problem with being in front of a camera. Unfortunately, we don't know anything about Terry's parents. Maybe they are just too distraught to make a statement and ask for help. I read on one comment that the parents had been out searching so maybe they believe they can make more of a impact doing that instead of being on television. IIRC, some questioned why the parents of the little girl missing from WA state (sorry I can't remember her name) didn't do public appeals and I believe a couple thought that was suspicious as well. But in the end, the parents were not involved at all. This isn't meant to say your feelings about this family is wrong, just that we really don't know about her family so just keep them in our prayers.

JMO

 

[A-Christie]

Thomas is a very common surname... IMHO there is no connection between the two events.

 

[laura08]

I had wrote that earlier when friends or family was complaining about no Amber Alert being issued and the police just wanting to keep searching when they felt he was abducted. Others commented that LE or the FBI may be telling them to avoid the news for now. I just was trying to wrap my head around it, I do believe you go with your instincts and if your not happy about something or the way something is being handled to try following your gut feeling and make the change. I don't know the family and I wouldn't want to be in there shoes and I am praying and hoping Noah makes it home safely. I do think some things are just not being said yet. I am not judging anyone I try keeping an open mind, and realize there's always two sides to every story.

 

[YidArmyRach]

He didn't leave before about 9, did he? That's full daylight. His mother took his dad to work 7ish, and they all went along. Then, after being home for awhile the mom napped from about 9:30 - 10:30 when she woke and noticed him missing. This at first seemed like a red flag except he has an infant sister - and mothers with infants can be so sleep deprived they do things like that. (frankly, I never did because I knew for a fact my older child couldn't be unsupervised for an hour. Some kids you might think would be okay watching cartoons for an hour, not mine). ;D

Just my opinion, but no 5 year old can be left unsupervised for an hour, no matter how trustworthy they may be.

If mum is fast asleep in a different room, she may as well not been there at all. I know its hard being sleep deprived (Trust me, I know as I had 5 children in 10 years) but I would be too scared to go to bed, leaving my 5 year old unsupervised in another room for all sorts of reasons - from them opening the front door and going out, them answering the door to a stranger, turning on the oven or kettle, poking electric sockets and so on.

As this little one is said to be cautious, not a wanderer and not likely to leave the house on his own, I can't help but think he was taken away from the house at some point. The trail leading to the road then stopping - is that just likely to be from where he went out earlier to drop his dad off to work, and again when he came home?

Also, I've read that mum slept until 9.00am when she noticed he was watching tv in the living room, then went back to sleep until around 10 - 10.30am .... that's a very long time for a 5 year old to be unsupervised. Not sure when she fell asleep, but he could have had up to 3 hours to have got into all sorts of trouble or had an accident and been deceased before mum even woke up.


Hoping there is a happy outcome, but sadly this isn't likely after so much time passing.

 

[Soulmagent]

No, I don't think her family would either. I do think any person who is twisted and demented who lived in the area and knew enough of the details could have watched and gotten it in their head that the parents were related. I think my point has not been understood. The coincidence of their last names, the fact that they were friends with the victim and the recent airing of the episode could have sparked something in someone unrelated to that case. I hope that is clear. Moo

Now it is ..lol
I am slow sometimes ,I reread your post after I posted and saw what you meant.

I would hope that someone who felt that there was an injustice to Tara would not want to inflict one on a 5 year old little boy. I know the FBI will look at it and place whatever value they find worthy on it . It does make me wonder who the eight year old was that was almost taken and why the FBI and Davis keep reiterating the words "close knit".

 

[JeannaT]

Just my opinion, but no 5 year old can be left unsupervised for an hour, no matter how trustworthy they may be.

If mum is fast asleep in a different room, she may as well not been there at all. I know its hard being sleep deprived (Trust me, I know as I had 5 children in 10 years) but I would be too scared to go to bed, leaving my 5 year old unsupervised in another room for all sorts of reasons - from them opening the front door and going out, them answering the door to a stranger, turning on the oven or kettle, poking electric sockets and so on.

As this little one is said to be cautious, not a wanderer and not likely to leave the house on his own, I can't help but think he was taken away from the house at some point. The trail leading to the road then stopping - is that just likely to be from where he went out earlier to drop his dad off to work, and again when he came home?

Also, I've read that mum slept until 9.00am when she noticed he was watching tv in the living room, then went back to sleep until around 10 - 10.30am .... that's a very long time for a 5 year old to be unsupervised. Not sure when she fell asleep, but he could have had up to 3 hours to have got into all sorts of trouble or had an accident and been deceased before mum even woke up.


Hoping there is a happy outcome, but sadly this isn't likely after so much time passing.

I absolutely couldn't agree more, but in the spirit of not victim bashing, I didn't want to say that. She may as well have left the house for an hour leaving him all alone during the day. I know moms take naps all the time when they have 5 year olds, but I never did and I don't think I could have gotten away with it even once and had it turn out okay.

 

[lillybell]

I understand and can sympathise with mum. Being sleep deprived is awful. But, It would of made more sense for dad to get himself to work and leave mum and the kids in bed. Just my opinion.

 

[NCsleuther]

I understand and can sympathise with mum. Being sleep deprived is awful. But, It would of made more sense for dad to get himself to work and leave mum and the kids in bed. Just my opinion.

I agree, but maybe he doesn't drive?

 

[rebeccaeee]

I agree, but maybe he doesn't drive?

Or maybe they only have one car?

 

[iamnotagolem]

As far as the scent leading to the road, I read on FB that the dogs had a hard time tracking the scent b/c there had been so many people all over the area searching right after Noah went missing. I think that is part of the issue with using dogs after the area had been inundated with foot traffic.

Sadly, I don't believe Noah is alive, I think he's probably not far from home. I am concerned that on many of the comments after news articles & on the FB page there have been mentions that there were at least 2 attempted abductions on Noah's street in the last few years. This is concerning. But I'm not ready to rule out him being in a vehicle, old appliance, body of water, drainage, etc.

I wish there was some clarification on the little boy he was last seen with, where did that come from if it wasn't true? Why was that the initial report?

 

[daisy7]

The case is not connected. The people are.

Thanks! Not really surprising as this is a small town. But, peeps are thinking this may be vengeance after the show aired?? Just trying to understand the line of thinking.

Does anyone have a link to the show?

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[Sweetgrits]

I noticed something while reading through this case. While following the Malik Drummond case which is very similar to this case (both were left with gf/stepmom while dad was away, both left in front of the tv while mom was elsewhere and both were thought to have left on their own and walked out the door) there is a big difference in the way our sleuthing progressed.

For me, I felt almost immediately that Maliks parents were involved. I didn't believe (and still don't) for a minute that this child got up and walked out the door on his own. There were some red flags but overall we read media stories that told us "facts" of what happened without spinning it either way. Same with Terry's situation. Left in front of the tv while mom was elsewhere and its strongly assumed that he walked outside on his own.

Even though I don't know anything about these 2 families I just have a "gut feeling" these parents are not involved. That may come back to bite me but its what I think. I also get the feeling that some other sleuthers here agree with me. What I'm trying to say is that we are a group that really cares about others and want to do whatever we can to help families get through these nightmares whatever the outcome. And we do it sitting in from of a computer. But over time, and there are many, many others who were here long before I even knew about the site, you learn to trust your gut feelings. You learn to read between the lines, to watch facial expressions and body language then decipher their meaning. We do it all without ever meeting any of the players.I'v learned what questions need to be asked and who can answer and we do it sitting in front of the computer.

LOL like I said the final outcome of Terry's situation could make this post irrelevant but it was just a thought I had.

JMO, MOO

 

[iamnotagolem]

I understand and can sympathise with mum. Being sleep deprived is awful. But, It would of made more sense for dad to get himself to work and leave mum and the kids in bed. Just my opinion.

I wonder if mom had plans for later that day and needed the vehicle, assuming they only have one, and that's why she took dad to work.

 

[MamaJoJo]

:twocents:

I've taken many a nap while my child watches TV, especially when I had other children under one year. It's inevitable. Usually, I was on the couch with them but I'm sure I fell asleep in another room on occasion, too. For goodness sake, I've fallen asleep in the laundry room while folding laundry before!

TV was invented for mothers to use as a babysitter, I'm sure. I guess I just don't see putting her child in front of the TV and taking a nap as a horrible thing to do. Obviously, though, this time it turned out horrific. Question is: will she ever be able to sleep again?

 

[darring21]

People have to sleep and children could leave the house when their parents are asleep. A kid could get up in the middle of the night and leave.