GUILTY VA - Noah Thomas, 5, Pulaski County, 22 March 2015 #2

[Ransom]

And maybe the mom just screwed up and didn't pay attention and it ended in tragedy. Even so, that happening and it leading to an accident is strange to me, and not something I'd consider normal.

What's "normal"? Normal for who?

 

[Ransom]

i don't think it was specifically reported that he was wearing the coat and boots when last seen, unless they were referring to the surveillance video. I assumed those items were not in the house so it was a logical conclusion that he had put them on when he went outside. Same with the pokemon cards...no one saw him with them, because no one saw him. But the cards were no longer there so...logical conclusion.

ita ....

 

[Ransom]

I think at this point there is soooo much to speculate about and nothing to know. LE is really doing a good job of keeping a lid on this case. I'm surprise the "Septic Tech" spoke about it.

As a side and completely non investigative note ...

/rant

If it turns out the parents are innocent (which I really hope) I am going to have a FIELD DAY demanding apologies of all the people on the official Find Noah FB page. I just did 20 rounds with this one woman. It's all these super judgmental moms in their late 20's and early 30's sitting on their throne of righteousness who know EXACTLY what happened and call anyone who disagrees a "stupid moron". They should all write books about being perfect parents and criminal investigators because, collectively, they know everything.

SMF.

/end rant

Rant on. I won't hold my breath for any apologies. Keyboard warriors never do that. IMO

 

[blazelet]

I'll tell you, I read the post by the admins, who are not connected to the parents, or family, but only Noah. They explain in a post earlier. They're getting threatening messages and I can't believe it. They're trying to keep the page like websleuths without the rumors, because the page is for Noah and any verified LE information. I can't believe people would threaten them. SMH

OT - I have thought a lot about this. I think a lot of (most of) those people genuinely care. They probably also lose some sleep at night and have that ball of hurt in their stomachs, thinking about little Noah.

And they also want answers. With none forthcoming they lay into the most accessible and convenient people ... because as my philosophy teacher once said "When people lack information, they make stuff up." ... and thus they do, casting these completely unsubstantiated ideas as fact. I think when you get large groups of people who are like this, and who are able to like each other's posts and encourage each other, they become a mob of unchecked certainty.

Then I go back to Noah. Everyone claims this is about him. So ... if he were there and saw his mom in this kind of distress ... what would he do? Probably love on her. I bet he'd sit with her and ask what's wrong. If it's really about Noah they should probably take a page from him until we have more to go on. Just a thought.

 

[winterrose]

First time I've seen the trailer front up close in this video... http://www.wsls.com/story/28632222/...thomas-body-was-found-in#.VRX2sGzVnN8.twitter

 

[toevlugsoord]

You know, even if the parents want to grieve in private or are shy to be out in front of the camera....someone surely has told them it looks bad to be hidden away and there are other options: they could write a statement that's released, in their own words...they could send a relative to speak for them who doesn't mind being in the spotlight, etc. So many options.

 

[MzOpinion8d]

I'm curious about the other baby, also. I would think they would take the baby away, just in case?

For those who followed the Jenise Wright case, do you remember when the other children were removed from the home? I seem to recall it was after the case was solved...

Those kids were removed within the first day or so...then returned almost in secret...

 

[Meemaw12]

First time I've seen the trailer front up close in this video... http://www.wsls.com/story/28632222/...thomas-body-was-found-in#.VRX2sGzVnN8.twitter

Look at 1:13 white pipe close to deck, wonder what that's for?


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[SeriouslySearching]

They said in a presser "the local force knows the child, and knows him well" http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ah-Terry-Thomas-5-Pulaski-22-March-2015/page7

I don't know where this came from as it takes me to the whole page and not the particular post.

I would have to assume it means the local police force listened to people carefully and asked the right questions so they are up to date on Noah and his behaviors. However, in a small town it would not be at all unusual for people to know Noah from school, church, or other ways. I am sure the entire town is in a lot of pain at the moment in losing little Noah. Most likely why the Sheriff is holding off on releasing info this weekend. Maybe he feels they need the weekend to deal with everything that has happened so far before adding more to it. The facts are not going to change and no one else is in danger.

People are talking about taking their baby away and talking as if this family intentionally harmed Noah. I would like to remind everyone they are victims and we are a victim friendly site. Nothing LE has said or done indicates this family has done nothing wrong. No one except LE knows the direction this is heading and they are not talking about the parents other than asking for sympathy toward them. We should follow their lead.

 

[perfectingpink]

Yes, very strange. Usually parents are plastered all over media to gain sympathy, rally the troops as they say...

After hearing of other children's deaths, I have had a few conversations with my husband about how I would handle the outside world if something horrible happened to my child. If the media made attempts to continually ask me questions, it would infuriate me. I would become selfish and not want to share anything with them, with anyone. I would want to process and hold my child, my memories with my child close to myself. I would not want to share my grief with anyone. All I can think I could say is "I am their mother. I love them. Nothing else matters."

I can only speculate here because all of my babies are safe, tucked into bed. However, this speculation is also based on something happening that was an accident and I truly hope and pray that is all this was.

 

[maureen718]

Personally I think too many emotions play into why or why not parents of a missing child would or would not talk to the media or give an interview. Every reason has two sides. One reason to talk would be to get the word out but when you look outside and see nothing but news vans and reporters that point seems to be moot. Also I read an article that was posted here about an abuse case that happened some time ago and a reporter quoted Noah's mom in his article, who knows if she experienced any backlash from that, not that anything she said was inflammatory but we don't know, that could be a factor. They have an infant, is mom breastfeeding? if she is that could be a huge problem since in the press conferences they stated over and over the parents are distraught and panicked, is she able to feed the baby? more distress. I could go on and on. But I won't lol. I do feel somewhat better that I am not alone in my frustration over the comments being made about parenting skills! I raised 4 sons, they are 4 years and 4 days from oldest to youngest, they are all young adults starting families of their own now, I guess I should be surprised they are alive, aside from a rare much needed nap sometimes I let them play in the family room while I made breakfast,lunch or dinner in the kitchen, even worse I left them alone in the playroom while I went to make their beds!! I guess the only thing I'm not guilty of is spending hours on my computer while they were awake, I started doing that after they got jobs and cars.

 

[winterrose]

Look at 1:13 white pipe close to deck, wonder what that's for?


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You know I think that might be the septic tank pipe. The reporter had to use a wide shot or long shot whatever they do to zoom in, because they can't go right up to the trailer. With that angle I think that's what it is, because if you look at the photo I put up from above that would be the same area as that tank.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...laski-22-March-2015-2&p=11630431#post11630431 On the google map you see where their little front porch is and that brown area overtop the orange dot is where the tank is located.

I also just found this photo on this article http://www.abc3340.com/story/286325...y-found-in-septic-tank-near-his-virginia-home ..





That little fire grill is actually next to the little white house in front of the trailer.

 

[Amster]

Comparing a mom going to bed and sleeping for 2-3 hours while her 5 yr. old was on his own to a mom being in the kitchen, cooking a meal while the kids were playing in a living room or playroom is nonsensical to me. I believe it's neglectful if the version of moms activity that morning is accurate. I understand that many think it's just fine. But, please, can we just agree to disagree? Without the implied opinion that those who disagree are ignorant and deserve to be derided and laughed at?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

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This is the photo I was told I could share. I have just brightened and cropped the original.

You can clearly see the vent pipe in this photo brought to us by courtneyb from her sister (thank you!).

 

[Soulmagent]

So does crap flow up hills? Is it me or does the septic tank look like it is higher than the trailer?

 

[maureen718]

We do not disagree, I am just frustrated, I do not think it is just fine to sleep while your children play at all nor do I think anyone is ignorant or deserves to be mistreated at any time for any reason, actually this is the first time I can remember being accused of such a thing. I'm sorry that I offended you, I mean that sincerely. We have been on WS for many cases, you more so even, I cried a broken heart over the outcomes too many times. I am just hurt by so many awful accusations against Noah's mother with no proof, no facts, we simply don't know what happened or what kind of a mother she is yet, awful.

 

[winterrose]

You can clearly see the vent pipe in this photo brought to us by courtneyb from her sister (thank you!).

Well there you go, where were you when I was just doing that searching for photos?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Comparing a mom going to bed and sleeping for 2-3 hours while her 5 yr. old was on his own to a mom being in the kitchen, cooking a meal while the kids were playing in a living room or playroom is nonsensical to me. I believe it's neglectful if the version of moms activity that morning is accurate. I understand that many think it's just fine. But, please, can we just agree to disagree? Without the implied opinion that those who disagree are ignorant and deserve to be derided and laughed at?

I haven't seen anyone being disrespectful to imply others are "ignorant and deserve to be derided and laughed at". If anyone posts the like, please feel free to click on the little triangle with ! on the lower left of the offensive post and a mod will gladly take care of the situation.

We can agree to disagree, but I will ask what is a new mother to do if she has no help and maybe her baby was up all night? If Dad had to rest the night before in order to work all day then most likely a new mom would be on her own. New mothers have to sleep sometime. New babies are not known for sleeping all night and being an easy adjustment in a family. What is your solution to this common problem?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

So does crap flow up hills? Is it me or does the septic tank look like it is higher than the trailer?

It could be the septic system for the white house not the mobile home.

 

[Meemaw12]

You know I think that might be the septic tank pipe. The reporter had to use a wide shot or long shot whatever they do to zoom in, because they can't go right up to the trailer. With that angle I think that's what it is, because if you look at the photo I put up from above that would be the same area as that tank.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...laski-22-March-2015-2&p=11630431#post11630431 On the google map you see where their little front porch is and that brown area overtop the orange dot is where the tank is located.

I also just found this photo on this article http://www.abc3340.com/story/286325...y-found-in-septic-tank-near-his-virginia-home ..

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That little fire grill is actually next to the little white house in front of the trailer.

Thank you


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