VA VA - Quantico, WhtFem 25-52, UP118401, hip tat, poss surgical scar, Found in controlled area of MCB, Sep'76

[iamshadow21]

Don't you think it would be such a high-risk for someone who works at the base to dump her body there?

And bodies are heavy! So surely it would take 2 or 3 people, and would be highly suspicious if anyone sae them, which would be likely near a US military base.

Or was she led to that location and killed there?

These threads are filled with solo killers who moved bodies on their own far larger than a woman barely over five feet who was also partially dismembered.

MOO

 

[annpats]

These threads are filled with solo killers who moved bodies on their own far larger than a woman barely over five feet who was also partially dismembered.

MOO

But why would you run the risk of moving someone onto US military base land?!

Unless of course, they worked there and knew that area was safe from surveillance and security.

 

[iamshadow21]

But why would you run the risk of moving someone onto US military base land?!

Unless of course, they worked there and knew that area was safe from surveillance and security.

Jurisdictional blindness. Same reason people drive remains over state or country lines. To remove the victim from the context she came from, and hinder identification and prosecution of the perpetrator. As we can see, in this case, it worked.

MOO

 

[lightofmine99]

The NamUs modification was a new image depicting a rendering of the flower tattoo.

I think it looks like ghost Snoopy wearing a cape (lol) but it's believed to be a flower.

 

[Laura Avery]

Personally I'm seeing a really bad drawing of lakes near Michigan, this is an overlap from a modern map, have they changed shape a little since 76? Inland natural filling might account for this over 40 years, if someone finds a hard copy of a map from that era, I'd love to see it,of course we didn't have such precise mapping tools then as we do now, but I can strongly see a resemblance, especially parts where it's identical curves.
Edit to add just seen there's a St "Clair" in port Huron at the bottom of this lake image. Coincidence, but I'd look for an Evelyn from st Clair , Michigan or Detroit

 

[HopeRains]

Marine Corps Base Quantico is a United States Marine Corps installation located near Triangle, Virginia, covering nearly 55,148 acres (red dotted outline below) of southern Prince William County, Virginia, northern Stafford County, and southeastern Fauquier County.

The black dot is Chopawamsic Creek.

Clair and Evelyn may be the name of 1 or 2 children. Clair is of French origin and is most often the male derivative. The image in the middle of the tattoo is interesting. I also thought it might be some type of map perhaps.

The article in the thread says stress on the bones might lean towards a profession of a "masseuse" (?).

I don't exactly know what is meant by a "controlled" area of the base. I was in the military in the early 80s in the DC area - to get on base you only needed an ID (civilian or military). They didn't search your trunk or ask for ID of everyone in the vehicle. She could have easily been brought into the area and left there. As I recall, we have another UID (or maybe 2) from this general area, I think (?). I'm remembering a UID male (maybe on a bicycle and not far from Russell Road which I think brought you into the base) and I believe a UID female not found far away as well.

 

[Aurora90]

Could Jane Doe be from Fort Worth? There is a Joint Reserve Base, home to a variety of Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force, Army and Texas Air National Guard units in Fort Worth Texas, and Jane Doe had an item of clothing from Dallas, hence my desire to look into this possibility further.

I feel quite strongly that the tattoo is the state of Texas. Maybe weight changes and ink changes changed the shape a bit? Or decomposition?

Thoughts?

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[Aurora90]

Clair might also be a nickname for Clarence. Below is an example in an obit.

Clarence "Clair" Charles Loose Jr - View Obituary & Service Information

Share Memories and Support the Family.

www.premierfuneral.com

 

[Aurora90]

Barbara Fogel?

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

Barbara has a death certificate but “no body found”. Her NAMUS profile was updated this summer. If she was believed to have drowned on a lake in 1976 why so many updates on her profile? And why is her possible drowning not mentioned in the circumstances of her disappearance?

Maybe Sherrye Bethel?

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

Or Kathleen Murphy?

TxDPS Missing and Unidentified Persons Online Bulletin

Texas Missing Persons Clearinghouse Online Bulletin, Browse photos and searchable bulletins of missing persons, abductors, and unidentified persons, a central repository for information and pictures of missing and unidentified persons in Texas.

www.dps.texas.gov

 

[Aurora90]

 

[Ingrid74]

I’m inclined to think that the tattoo suggests a relationship between a “Clair” and an “Evelyn”

 

[Ingrid74]

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Could that be a yellow rose above Texas state map?

 

[Caring1]

It’s definitely a silhouette tattoo. There are many representations and they all mean something specific. The closest I have found by dissecting pieces of the tattoo was a portion of Italy on the far left but only a small portion of it so may mean nothing at all. Maybe submit the image to a seasoned tattoo artist. They may know the meaning of the actual silhouette.

Just a few examples below but there are many.