VA VA - Ralph Leon Jackson, Blue Ridge Parkway Shooter, 4 May 2010

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Here is an article from the Los Angeles Times about investigative genetic genealogy:

DNA genealogical databases are a gold mine for police, but with few rules and little transparency

As I have said in my opinion the problem with investigative genetic genealogy is much greater than mentioned in the article and this is that innocent people have been incorrectly accused of crimes they did not commit through the use of it because the supposed science behind it is flawed. Hence it is my opinion that the offender in the Golden State Killer case and NorCal Rapist case was actually a man called Ralph Leon Jackson and this makes the men held for these crimes innocent:

Sacramento prosecutor Schubert said the rules guard against uses that might backfire and restrict DNA searches even further.

“I don’t want some cop out there doing genealogy on a car [burglar],” Schubert said. “We’re identifying people through other people. ... I recognize there are privacy rights.”

DNA genealogical databases are a gold mine for police, but with few rules and little transparency

 

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The fact that in my opinion LE have actually misidentified innocent people as the offenders in serious crime cases has relevance to the campaign launched by LE to get members of the public to OPT IN to GEDMATCH. This of course in my opinion might lead to them wrongly accusing other innocent people of crimes they did not commit with the serious consequences for them and their loved ones:

California prosecutors collaborated with a Texas genealogy company at the outset of what became a $2-million campaign to spotlight the heinous crimes they can solve with consumer DNA. Their goal is to encourage more people to make their DNA available to police matching.

DNA genealogical databases are a gold mine for police, but with few rules and little transparency

 

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The fact that in my opinion LE have actually misidentified innocent people as the offenders in serious crime cases has relevance to the campaign launched by LE to get members of the public to OPT IN to GEDMATCH. This of course in my opinion might lead to them wrongly accusing other innocent people of crimes they did not commit with the serious consequences for them and their loved ones:

California prosecutors collaborated with a Texas genealogy company at the outset of what became a $2-million campaign to spotlight the heinous crimes they can solve with consumer DNA. Their goal is to encourage more people to make their DNA available to police matching.

DNA genealogical databases are a gold mine for police, but with few rules and little transparency

It is also my opinion that the conviction of Mr Talbott was a wrongful one because the DNA evidence was not challenged and just accepted by the defence team and in my opinion this was wrong because there was actually no valid DNA hit because again the genetic genealogy 'science' behind it was flawed:

Only one of the 66 DNA-derived cases identified by The Times has gone to trial — a Washington man convicted of killing a Canadian couple in the 1980s — and the defense lawyer there agreed not to challenge the GEDMatch work that led police to her client.

DNA genealogical databases are a gold mine for police, but with few rules and little transparency

 

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Here is a video from CNN about investigative genetic genealogy:

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Here is interesting blog about investigative genetic genealogy:

Genealogy sites give law enforcement a new DNA sleuthing tool, but the battle over privacy looms - MikesLists.com

 

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Here is interesting blog about investigative genetic genealogy:

Genealogy sites give law enforcement a new DNA sleuthing tool, but the battle over privacy looms - MikesLists.com

As I say to me the big issue with investigative genetic genealogy is that it can lead to innocent people being accused of crimes they did not commit and this started in my opinion with the Golden State Killer case where the actual offender was a man called Ralph Leon Jackson:

“There was a big backlash by a few people claiming that since the woman lived, this did not meet the existing [terms of service], and we were on a ‘slippery slope’ to letting [law enforcement] use GEDmatch for nonviolent crimes,” Curtis Rogers, a partner at GEDmatch, said in an email. “This case gave us the chance to both create the opt-in process and at the same time to revise our definition of ‘violent crimes’ to more accurately meet the FBI definition,” which includes murder and nonnegligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery and aggravated assault.

Genealogy sites give law enforcement a new DNA sleuthing tool, but the battle over privacy looms - MikesLists.com

 

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As I say to me the big issue with investigative genetic genealogy is that it can lead to innocent people being accused of crimes they did not commit and this started in my opinion with the Golden State Killer case where the actual offender was a man called Ralph Leon Jackson:

“There was a big backlash by a few people claiming that since the woman lived, this did not meet the existing [terms of service], and we were on a ‘slippery slope’ to letting [law enforcement] use GEDmatch for nonviolent crimes,” Curtis Rogers, a partner at GEDmatch, said in an email. “This case gave us the chance to both create the opt-in process and at the same time to revise our definition of ‘violent crimes’ to more accurately meet the FBI definition,” which includes murder and nonnegligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery and aggravated assault.

Genealogy sites give law enforcement a new DNA sleuthing tool, but the battle over privacy looms - MikesLists.com

As I say I believe Mr Talbott was wrongfully convicted because there actually is no legitimate DNA hit because the investigative genetic genealogy science is flawed and generates erroneous supposed hits. Hence if a consensual sexual intercourse argument is made it is quite obvious a jury will not buy it but in reality there is not legitimate DNA hit and the science and legitimacy of the supposed hit needs to be attacked:

One of the victims was believed to have been raped. What Forde took issue with was the conclusion that Talbott’s DNA found on the pants of the female victim connected him to a crime.

“We have to overcome a bias that juries already have: that DNA is meaningful in a criminal context, even if it’s divorced from the crime,” she says, meaning the existence of a person’s DNA at a crime scene does not logically conclude that person is the perpetrator of a crime. In her client’s case, she believes there are noncriminal reasons why his DNA was found on the female victim, like consensual sex.

However, she says, “It’s going to probably take some very tragic false convictions in order for people to understand that.”

In July, Talbott was convicted and sentenced to two life terms to be served consecutively. Believing he is innocent, Forde says her office plans to appeal. Meanwhile, her colleagues are already preparing for a new case that used forensic genealogy.

Genealogy sites give law enforcement a new DNA sleuthing tool, but the battle over privacy looms - MikesLists.com

 

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As I say I believe Mr Talbott was wrongfully convicted because there actually is no legitimate DNA hit because the investigative genetic genealogy science is flawed and generates erroneous supposed hits. Hence if a consensual sexual intercourse argument is made it is quite obvious a jury will not buy it but in reality there is not legitimate DNA hit and the science and legitimacy of the supposed hit needs to be attacked:

One of the victims was believed to have been raped. What Forde took issue with was the conclusion that Talbott’s DNA found on the pants of the female victim connected him to a crime.

“We have to overcome a bias that juries already have: that DNA is meaningful in a criminal context, even if it’s divorced from the crime,” she says, meaning the existence of a person’s DNA at a crime scene does not logically conclude that person is the perpetrator of a crime. In her client’s case, she believes there are noncriminal reasons why his DNA was found on the female victim, like consensual sex.

However, she says, “It’s going to probably take some very tragic false convictions in order for people to understand that.”

In July, Talbott was convicted and sentenced to two life terms to be served consecutively. Believing he is innocent, Forde says her office plans to appeal. Meanwhile, her colleagues are already preparing for a new case that used forensic genealogy.

Genealogy sites give law enforcement a new DNA sleuthing tool, but the battle over privacy looms - MikesLists.com

As I say it is more opinion that CeCe Moore and ParaBon Labs have actually made many mistakes identifying innocent people wrongly as the offenders in many serious crime cases including the case of Mr Talbott mentioned above:

Even with public support of this approach, GEDmatch is not seeing a flood of users opt-in to law enforcement searches after it changed its terms of service earlier this year.

“Initially when we implemented the opt-in system, the number of people on our site with whom [law enforcement] could compare dropped to zero,” Rogers says.

The website also opted everyone who uploaded their data before May 18, 2019, out of law enforcement matching, which left some feeling bereaved, at least temporarily.

“That data is lost; it’s like burning libraries,” says Moore at Parabon NanoLabs.

Since Oct. 1, about 170,000 users have opted-in to GEDmatch’s law enforcement matching.

Still, Moore and others are worried that actions from companies and government regulators could continue to limit the reach of forensic genealogy.

Genealogy sites give law enforcement a new DNA sleuthing tool, but the battle over privacy looms - MikesLists.com

 

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As I say it is more opinion that CeCe Moore and ParaBon Labs have actually made many mistakes identifying innocent people wrongly as the offenders in many serious crime cases including the case of Mr Talbott mentioned above:

Even with public support of this approach, GEDmatch is not seeing a flood of users opt-in to law enforcement searches after it changed its terms of service earlier this year.

“Initially when we implemented the opt-in system, the number of people on our site with whom [law enforcement] could compare dropped to zero,” Rogers says.

The website also opted everyone who uploaded their data before May 18, 2019, out of law enforcement matching, which left some feeling bereaved, at least temporarily.

“That data is lost; it’s like burning libraries,” says Moore at Parabon NanoLabs.

Since Oct. 1, about 170,000 users have opted-in to GEDmatch’s law enforcement matching.

Still, Moore and others are worried that actions from companies and government regulators could continue to limit the reach of forensic genealogy.

Genealogy sites give law enforcement a new DNA sleuthing tool, but the battle over privacy looms - MikesLists.com

My argument is not a political one because anyone can wrongly accused of crimes of any political viewpoint and it is not about race as black, white, yellow and in-between can be wrongly accused of crimes they did not commit.

 

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As I say I believe Mr Talbott was wrongfully convicted because there actually is no legitimate DNA hit because the investigative genetic genealogy science is flawed and generates erroneous supposed hits. Hence if a consensual sexual intercourse argument is made it is quite obvious a jury will not buy it but in reality there is not legitimate DNA hit and the science and legitimacy of the supposed hit needs to be attacked:

One of the victims was believed to have been raped. What Forde took issue with was the conclusion that Talbott’s DNA found on the pants of the female victim connected him to a crime.

“We have to overcome a bias that juries already have: that DNA is meaningful in a criminal context, even if it’s divorced from the crime,” she says, meaning the existence of a person’s DNA at a crime scene does not logically conclude that person is the perpetrator of a crime. In her client’s case, she believes there are noncriminal reasons why his DNA was found on the female victim, like consensual sex.

However, she says, “It’s going to probably take some very tragic false convictions in order for people to understand that.”

In July, Talbott was convicted and sentenced to two life terms to be served consecutively. Believing he is innocent, Forde says her office plans to appeal. Meanwhile, her colleagues are already preparing for a new case that used forensic genealogy.

Genealogy sites give law enforcement a new DNA sleuthing tool, but the battle over privacy looms - MikesLists.com

I have not spoken to Mr Talbott and his lawyer has. I believe it is a wrongful conviction but on the basis that flawed investigative genetic genealogy produces supposed DNA hits that in reality do not exist. Hence there may have been no contact with the victims because again in reality there is no scientifically legitimate DNA hit.

 

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Here is an interesting report about DNA with some reference to the Golden State Killer case:

Veritas’ decision to stop selling its tests in the U.S. comes as other consumer-facing DNA testing companies report that sales have slowed. One potential factor is that people have grown more concerned about protecting their privacy, especially in the wake of high-profile news events such as the Golden State Killer case. That stoked fears about whether individuals could be found and convicted for past crimes based on distant relatives’ DNA.

Veritas Genetics, the start-up that can sequence a human genome for less than $600, ceases US operations and is in talks with potential buyers

 

[jaejae]

Here is an interesting report about DNA with some reference to the Golden State Killer case:

Veritas’ decision to stop selling its tests in the U.S. comes as other consumer-facing DNA testing companies report that sales have slowed. One potential factor is that people have grown more concerned about protecting their privacy, especially in the wake of high-profile news events such as the Golden State Killer case. That stoked fears about whether individuals could be found and convicted for past crimes based on distant relatives’ DNA.

Veritas Genetics, the start-up that can sequence a human genome for less than $600, ceases US operations and is in talks with potential buyers

Here is another report about Forensic Science and DNA Phenotyping and of course ParaBon Labs pioneered this:

Another development in forensic science is an upcoming technology known as forensic DNA phenotyping (FDP). These tests provide genetic data, which can be used to infer an individual’s phenotype characteristics. The data can include biological age, bio-geographical ancestry and characteristics such as hair, skin and eye colour. As of 2018, FDP in the EU is only officially regulated in Slovakia and the Netherlands.

Forensic investigations: a step beyond fingerprints

Here are details on DNA phenotyping where there was recently an arrest after the use of investigative genetic genealogy:

DNA Technology Gives Cold Case Murder Suspect A New Face

 

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This is a video by a Belgian comedian but it is about DNA and the Golden State Killer case gets a mention and there is a serious element to it. In my view what I consider to be the misidentification of Mr DeAngelo as the offender is a bad joke as he is nothing like the suspect people were looking for all those years. My suspect Ralph Jackson was five foot eight tall, had lightly pock marked skin and piecing blue eyes that is you look into them were cold like those of a childs doll:

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Here is a recent report about DNA phenotyping. Of course ParaBon Labs who have been heavily involved in investigative genetic genealogy with their Chief Scientist CeCe Moore were involved in developing this technology:

Parabon’s sketch may not have been useful, but Montco investigators had a second futuristic tool at their disposal. Detectives used what’s known as “genetic genealogy,” plugging the suspect’s genetic information into a DNA database in order to determine his distant relatives — the same way police caught the Golden State Killer in 2018. The Montco police turned up a few hits, and after interviewing those relatives they honed in on a man named Mason Hall. Then, police had a stroke of good fortune: They learned Hall had recently been a suspect in a different criminal case, and had left DNA evidence there, too. The samples matched, and Hall was arrested on October 18, 2019. (He is scheduled to be arraigned on December 11th.)

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Here is a report about the Website GEDMATCH:

GEDmatch, the Controversial Genealogy Website that Helped Crack the Golden State Killer Case, has been Bought by a Forensic Genetics Firm

 

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Here is a report about the Website GEDMATCH:

GEDmatch, the Controversial Genealogy Website that Helped Crack the Golden State Killer Case, has been Bought by a Forensic Genetics Firm

Let's work on the basis that what is said in the above blog is true. I believe that GEDMATCH has been used to wrongly accuse another of innocent people of crimes they did not commit. The best example is Joseph DeAngelo who I believe is an innocent man and the actual offender was a man called Ralph Leon Jackson. This has caused a great deal of suffering to Mr DeAngelo as he has been reduced to a skeleton by being wrongly accused of crimes he did not commit through flawed investigative genetic science and the use of the website GEDMATCH. Now if this article is right and GEDMATCH were to profit from the suffering that the use of their website has caused to innocent people I would say this is morally wrong.

 

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Here is another report about GEDMATCH apparently being sold:

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...gy-website-that-helped-crack-the-golden-state

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I would like to make the point again that I believe many innocent people have actually been misidentified as the offenders in very serious crime cases and this is an important part of the debate. This includes the Golden State Killer case where the actual offender was a man called Ralph Leon Jackson and this is of course the case that put GEDMATCH in the spotlight and lead to investigative genetic genealogy being used in many other cases. The Institute for DNA Justice has been campaigning for innocent non criminal US Citizens to entered their DNA into GEDMATCH and other Ancestry Websites and also urging people to allow them to access their DNA by OPTING IN to LE searches. Expanding the accessible DNA profiles at GEDMATCH of course increases the value of this site to potential buyers. However I need to make the point it is my belief that many of the faces of the men shown at their website are innocent men and Anne-Marie Schubert has three innocent men wrongly accused of crimes they did not commit through the use of flawed investigative genetic genealogy she does not understand and I would bet I them all being the crimes of one man stun gun and all:

https://www.institutefordnajustice.org/

 

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If concerned groups, individuals and media are watching what I state is the truth as unlikely as it might sound. The other side is can you really believe that CeCe Moore an actress and everyone has got all these cases right in this unperfect world in which EAR/ONS lived. So the Institute DNA Justice and others have been conducting a campaign to get people to OPT IN with their DNA at websites even though people have been wrongly accused of crimes and some of those involved in these mistakes have been very active in the campaign to get other people to OPT IN with their DNA with the further risk that more innocent people may be wrongly accused of crimes:

GEDmatch quickly complied. But in a press release announcing its acquisition of the site, Verogen CEO Brett Williams indicated that his company would take a tougher line in future: “We are steadfast in our commitment to protecting users’ privacy and will fight any future attempts to access data of those who have not opted in.”

The fact that some unfortunate unidentified crime victims may have been identified but not change the fact that in my view many innocent people have been wrongly accused of crimes they dis not commit through the use of investigative genealogy including in the Golden State Killer case where the actual offender was a man called Ralph Leon Jackson and of course this was the case that man GEDMATCH famous and the talk of the town so to speak:

“They have been pummelled by all sides,” said Margaret Press, co-founder of the DNA Doe Project, which uses genetic genealogy to put names to unidentified homicide victims.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...gy-website-that-helped-crack-the-golden-state

 

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I feel that the purchase of GEDMATCH may be one of the worst business decisions made. Again I ask people to look at for me in the fact that I believe the actual Golden State Killer was Ralph Leon Jackson and that the conviction of Mr Talbott in Washington was a wrongful one because in reality there was no legitimate DNA hit:

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