VA VA - Ralph Leon Jackson, Blue Ridge Parkway Shooter, 4 May 2010

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Here is a report about a case where LE state they intend to use genetic genealogy to try and solve it:

Elk Grove Police Hope Advancements In DNA, Genealogy Technology Will Crack Cold Case

Of course the US Department Of Justice brought in new guidelines about the use of genetic genealogy by LE on the 01/11/19. These to me appear to be guidelines though and I am not sure how much LE have to obey or pay credence to them:

Albright said the department will also use public genealogy databases such as Ancestry.com to find possible suspects if the department is able to find DNA samples on existing evidence.

Elk Grove Police Hope Advancements In DNA, Genealogy Technology Will Crack Cold Case
 
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Here is another report about LE gaining access to GEDMATCH via a court order:

As far as Detective Fields is concerned, he’s hoping that he does get a chance to go after the motherlode: Ancestry.com, with its 15 million person database, and 23andMe, with 10 million records. The Times quotes him:

You would see hundreds and hundreds of unsolved crimes solved overnight. I hope I get a case where I get to try.

Warrant let police search online DNA database
 
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I have always wanted to see criminals caught and have spend years trying to get victims relatives in the crimes of Ralph Jackson answers without any success. Again in this report the Golden State Killer case is cited as an inspirational one for the use of investigative genetic genealogy. It is my opinion that the man arrested in this case is not the actual offender and the actual offender was a man called Ralph Leon Jackson who was a Serial Killer that travelled throughout the US:

New DNA methods could solve a 1980 cold case. But NY won't let investigators use it. - News Flash
 
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I have always wanted to see criminals caught and have spend years trying to get victims relatives in the crimes of Ralph Jackson answers without any success. Again in this report the Golden State Killer case is cited as an inspirational one for the use of investigative genetic genealogy. It is my opinion that the man arrested in this case is not the actual offender and the actual offender was a man called Ralph Leon Jackson who was a Serial Killer that travelled throughout the US:

New DNA methods could solve a 1980 cold case. But NY won't let investigators use it. - News Flash

It is also my view based on my study that ParaBon Labs have been involved in a number cases where innocent people have been wrongly accused of crimes they did not commit and this includes in my opinion a double murder in Alabama. It is my view that these possible facts or facts in my view should be factored into the debate about the use of genetic genealogy:

Parabon began seeking a permit after the company got a warning in 2017 from the Department of Health for helping the New York City Police Department use a DNA analysis similar to what’s used in genetic genealogy to develop leads on a murder suspect and the identity of a dead woman.

The company has been trying to meet the permit requirements for more than a year, according to Parabon CEO Steven Armentrout. “I think we’re close,” Armentrout said in an October email.

New DNA methods could solve a 1980 cold case. But NY won't let investigators use it. - News Flash
 
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It is also my view based on my study that ParaBon Labs have been involved in a number cases where innocent people have been wrongly accused of crimes they did not commit and this includes in my opinion a double murder in Alabama. It is my view that these possible facts or facts in my view should be factored into the debate about the use of genetic genealogy:

Parabon began seeking a permit after the company got a warning in 2017 from the Department of Health for helping the New York City Police Department use a DNA analysis similar to what’s used in genetic genealogy to develop leads on a murder suspect and the identity of a dead woman.

The company has been trying to meet the permit requirements for more than a year, according to Parabon CEO Steven Armentrout. “I think we’re close,” Armentrout said in an October email.

New DNA methods could solve a 1980 cold case. But NY won't let investigators use it. - News Flash

As I say it is my belief there have been many mistakes by ParaBon Labs including in the case of Mr Talbott in Washington State which I believe was a wrongful conviction. In this case and the Golden State Killer case I believe the FBI are aware of the fact there are no legitimate DNA hits due to flawed science:

Moore, of Parabon, said she was “itching” to work on the Wilkowitz case — assuming there was enough DNA available from the suspect for the advanced analysis. She also said she understood the need for regulations. “However, for a new technology like this, there has to be a way to get it expedited for approval so families aren’t waiting,” Moore said. “And it’s a matter of public safety.”

https://newsflash.one/2019/11/09/ne...ld-case-but-ny-wont-let-investigators-use-it/
 
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Thanks again for the post. What I would say is do not be mislead by the fact Jackson himself said he lived within seeing distance of his last crime on the Blue Ridge Parkway in 2010. He served ten years in the military for a start:

'Family man': Parkway shooting suspect's family, boss express shock

Don't see anywhere that it states he was in the military. I have tried confirm this but cannot. Do you have evidence that he served in the military?
 
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Don't see anywhere that it states he was in the military. I have tried confirm this but cannot. Do you have evidence that he served in the military?

I have seen an article with my own eyes where it states he served ten years in the military. His lawyer stated it when making an appeal about the sentencing. This was after his trial though and a few years ago. I cannot find it now myself. Cheers:)
 
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Here is a recent statement about privacy from the Ancestry Com site:
Posted by Eric Heath on November 8, 2019 in Website
Your privacy is important to us. That’s why we want to share our position on a recent event where a Florida judge issued a search warrant to allow law enforcement to search all of GEDmatch, an open data personal genomics database. Following the issuance of the search warrant, GEDmatch opened its database of nearly one million users — beyond those who had consented to such access — within 24 hours. Ancestry believes that GEDmatch could have done more to protect the privacy of its users, by pushing back on the warrant or even challenging it in court. Their failure to do so is highly irresponsible, and deeply concerning to all of us here at Ancestry. GEDmatch’s actions stand in stark contrast to our values and commitment to our customers.

We want to be clear – protecting our customers’ privacy and being good stewards of their data is our highest priority. Not only will we not share customer information with law enforcement unless compelled to by valid legal process, such as a court order or search warrant, we will also always advocate for our customers’ privacy and seek to narrow the scope of any compelled disclosure, or even eliminate it entirely. You can find more information on our privacy philosophy here.

Additionally, each year we release a transparency report that outlines law enforcement requests for member data. To date, we have received no valid requests for information related to genetic information of any Ancestry member, nor have we disclosed any such information to law enforcement.

With regard to this situation, we, together with our partners at The Coalition for Genetic Data Protection, which was formed to advance business practices that ensure the privacy and security of an individual’s genetic data, have issued the following statement:

The Coalition for Genetic Data Privacy is deeply concerned by the recent decision by GEDMatch — a publicly accessible genetic database that is neither a member of our Coalition nor a signatory to the Best Practices — to not challenge the search warrant in the interests of their users’ privacy.

The Coalition believes that individuals deserve the full protection of the law when it comes to their personal and genetic data. This includes an obligation by companies who process genetic data to commit resources to closely scrutinize and challenge the validity of any warrant, including where the warrant may infringe on individuals’ Fourth Amendment rights.

When our users choose to upload their personal genetic data to other services that do not adhere to our Best Practices, they should carefully consider the commitments made by such services as they relate to law enforcement access.

It is incumbent on any company entrusted with sensitive personal information, including genetic data, to approach the issue of law enforcement access with a high degree of scrutiny, transparency, and prioritization of customer privacy.

We deeply value our Ancestry community and remain fiercely committed to providing a protected environment for journeys of personal discovery.

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Eric Heath
Chief Privacy Officer, Ancestry
Your Privacy is our Top Priority - Ancestry Blog
 
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Here is a recent statement about privacy from the Ancestry Com site:
Posted by Eric Heath on November 8, 2019 in Website
Your privacy is important to us. That’s why we want to share our position on a recent event where a Florida judge issued a search warrant to allow law enforcement to search all of GEDmatch, an open data personal genomics database. Following the issuance of the search warrant, GEDmatch opened its database of nearly one million users — beyond those who had consented to such access — within 24 hours. Ancestry believes that GEDmatch could have done more to protect the privacy of its users, by pushing back on the warrant or even challenging it in court. Their failure to do so is highly irresponsible, and deeply concerning to all of us here at Ancestry. GEDmatch’s actions stand in stark contrast to our values and commitment to our customers.

We want to be clear – protecting our customers’ privacy and being good stewards of their data is our highest priority. Not only will we not share customer information with law enforcement unless compelled to by valid legal process, such as a court order or search warrant, we will also always advocate for our customers’ privacy and seek to narrow the scope of any compelled disclosure, or even eliminate it entirely. You can find more information on our privacy philosophy here.

Additionally, each year we release a transparency report that outlines law enforcement requests for member data. To date, we have received no valid requests for information related to genetic information of any Ancestry member, nor have we disclosed any such information to law enforcement.

With regard to this situation, we, together with our partners at The Coalition for Genetic Data Protection, which was formed to advance business practices that ensure the privacy and security of an individual’s genetic data, have issued the following statement:

The Coalition for Genetic Data Privacy is deeply concerned by the recent decision by GEDMatch — a publicly accessible genetic database that is neither a member of our Coalition nor a signatory to the Best Practices — to not challenge the search warrant in the interests of their users’ privacy.

The Coalition believes that individuals deserve the full protection of the law when it comes to their personal and genetic data. This includes an obligation by companies who process genetic data to commit resources to closely scrutinize and challenge the validity of any warrant, including where the warrant may infringe on individuals’ Fourth Amendment rights.

When our users choose to upload their personal genetic data to other services that do not adhere to our Best Practices, they should carefully consider the commitments made by such services as they relate to law enforcement access.

It is incumbent on any company entrusted with sensitive personal information, including genetic data, to approach the issue of law enforcement access with a high degree of scrutiny, transparency, and prioritization of customer privacy.

We deeply value our Ancestry community and remain fiercely committed to providing a protected environment for journeys of personal discovery.

8cb66ae147ff78122d4aa2b71d0c9a71

Eric Heath
Chief Privacy Officer, Ancestry
Your Privacy is our Top Priority - Ancestry Blog

As I stated earlier in the thread it is my opinion based on study that the use of the Website GEDMATCH has lead to a number of innocent people being wrongly accused of crimes and this needs to be factored into the debate the US needs to have about the rights of victims and the rights for privacy. Of course if you are wrongly accused of crimes you did not commit you become a victim in my view as do your family and friends.
 
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Here is another recent report about genetic genealogy this time from the Guardian:

When governments have access to DNA databases, you’re right to be scared | John Naughton

As I say I feel the US people have the right to debate the use of genetic genealogy with all the facts including my belief innocent people have wrongly been accused of crimes through its use and that in my opinion includes the Golden State Killer case which started all the recent use of investigative genealogy. Also course if there are misidentifications innocent people and their families have a right to be protected from such mistakes:

At the moment, police forces are likely to have difficulty getting access to the vast databases of 23andMe and Ancestry.com, because people whose profiles are stored there didn’t know they might be used for law enforcement and couldn’t therefore have given their consent. But it turns out that GEDmatch had warned its users that their DNA could be used for “non-genealogical uses”. This, presumably, was what enabled Californian police to use it last year to identify and arrest a man suspected of more than 50 rapes and 12 murders in the 1970s.

When governments have access to DNA databases, you’re right to be scared | John Naughton
 
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Here is another report about genetic genealogy. It is true that your DNA could be used to solve a crime but I believe it might also be used to accuse an innocent person of crimes they did not commit and this is why I urge Public Defenders, concerned politicians, privacy groups and concerned citizens to read my posts:

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It is my view that ParaBon Labs have made many mistakes with their use of genetic genealogy. Two cases being the case of Mr Talbott where there was a wrongful conviction and the case in Alabama where a man was held on a double murder charge. These mistakes need to be exposed by the FBI because if they become involved in more case more innocent people may be harmed:

Under a decades-old regulation from a time when DNA analysis first became common in criminal cases, private labs are required to obtain permits before they can do such forensics work in New York…No private lab has this permit for investigative genetic genealogy.

Investigators could use genetic genealogy to solve a brutal murder, but NY hasn't approved it
 
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Here is video about Forensic Scientists:

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Here is another recent report about the use of investigative genetic genealogy:

Genetic genealogy can help solve cold cases. It can also accuse the wrong person.

This is an interesting report and here is the owner of GEDMATCH Curtis Rogers who operates the site out of his home or garage:

Rogers said he was initially confused, upset and worried that the investigators had violated his users’ privacy.

He said it took him about two weeks to really figure out how his site was being used and that it was not a violation of personal data.

He said their terms of service had always warned that information might be used for purposes outside of genealogy. After the Golden State Killer episode, they updated the terms to permit law enforcement searches in the cases of violent crime, which they defined as rapes and murders. And he disagrees with critics who claim such searches are detrimental.

“If they could see some of the emails from these families that have had some closure, I can’t imagine that anyone would say it’s the wrong thing to do,” Rogers said, adding that, if “you don’t want to get caught, don’t be a criminal.”

Genetic genealogy can help solve cold cases. It can also accuse the wrong person.
 
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