VA VA - Ralph Leon Jackson, Blue Ridge Parkway Shooter, 4 May 2010

[jaejae]

It is worth making the point that in my opinion many of these wrongly accused people have never entered their own DNA into any databases and have been wrongly accused through the genealogists using other peoples DNA to make their mistakes.

Of course it is a good thing if unidentified crime victims are given justice and dignity. Here is another LE Officer advocating that innocent people enter their DNA into databases and then OPT IN to allow LE and their genealogists to access their genetic data and I need to say again in my opinion in terms of identifying criminal suspects in cases LE and their investigative genetic genealogists have made many mistakes and wrongly accused many innocent people of crimes they did not commit and again in my opinion this includes the Golden State Killer case where the actual offender was a man called Ralph Leon Jackson:

He says each kit comes with an 'opt-in' privacy setting. By opting-in you allow your DNA to be stored in a database accessible to police. The database is used in partnership with new technology used by WilCo's cold case department.

Cox says it gives investigators a better chance of identifying a victim. "We're able to use those links through the DNA, in order to follow the family tree back down to these victims," he said.


The department says your identity in the system remains completely anonymous. They say it only allows them to link the DNA to a potential family tree or blood line.

Something, Cox says has allowed them to give a victim's family the closure needed. "They we're young, and they didn't deserve to die the way they died, and they certainly don't deserve to go unnamed for all this time," he said.

DNA ancestry websites helped identify two WilCo cold case victims

 

[jaejae]

Here is a magazine for LE Prosecutors which has an article about the use of investigative genetic genealogy in criminal prosecutions. In the case discussed it may be different and the right offender identified but as I have said on this thread in my opinion there have been many cases where the use of flawed investigative genealogy has lead to innocent men wrongly being accused of crimes they did not commit including in the Golden State Killer case and the case of Mr Talbott in Washington State:

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A great example of an area in which prosecutors should act proactively to set investigative guidelines is the field of forensic genetic genealogy (FGG).1 Early in 2018, my hometown police department, in conjunction with my office, used FGG to identify, arrest, and successfully prosecute an armed rapist who selected female lifeguards at local pools as his victims. Without FGG, this violent predator would never have been
unidentified and would have remained free to strike again. On the strength of FGG evidence, however, he elected to plead guilty and is currently awaiting sentencing.

http://ndaa.org/wp-content/uploads/NDAA_The-Prosecutor_Jan-2020_F.pdf

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[jaejae]

I understand that victims relatives want their loved ones cases solved and in one state we see an attempt to make a law that LE can access DNA databases. My point is that it should be the right person who is accused of crimes and subject to legal proceedings in cases and the US Public have the right to be aware of the what I believe to be the mistakes made through investigative genetic genealogy including in my opinion wrongly accusing Joseph DeAngelo of being the Golden State Killer when the actual offender was a man called Ralph Leon Jackson. My suspicion is that innocent people have also likely been wrongly accused of crimes they did not commit and here is a report about the use of investigative genealogy in that state:

In the latest iteration of their use—alternately labeled a breakthrough or dystopian nightmare —law enforcement is turning to some consumer genealogy database to help them find criminals. By uploading DNA from crime scenes to genetic databases or by obtaining warrants to search genealogy websites, police have been able to suss out suspects by connecting DNA evidence to the profiles of distant relatives.

A state lawmaker in Utah wants police to stop this practice. Legislation proposed by Rep. Craig Hall, a Republican, would prevent mass searches of consumer DNA databases, which Hall referred to as “fishing expeditions.”

“We understand that law enforcement wants to use these tools, but the ends don’t justify the means,” Hall said. “We don’t need a surveillance state to catch the bad guys.”

Hall said he believes that law enforcement searches of DNA databases violate the particularity requirement of the Fourth Amendment, which courts have interpreted as requiring law enforcement to obtain search warrants and describe in detail to a judge the evidence they plan to gather when invading someone’s privacy.

One State May Become the First to Ban Law Enforcement Use of Genealogy Databases

Here is another report about the proposed legislation on the use of investigative genetic genealogy in Utah. There may be other issues but the first problem with investigative genetic genealogy is in my opinion that it is a flawed 'science' or unscientific and can lead to the wrong people being accused of crimes on the basis on supposed DNA hit that are in reality non existent and generated because of poor science. This happened in the Golden State Killer case in my opinion where the actual offender was a man called Ralph Leon Jackson. This is of course of relevance to the law makers in Utah and elsewhere and perhaps more relevant still is I suspect the same flawed processes may have been repeated to wrongly accuse innocent people in Utah of crimes they did not commit perhaps even again those of Ralph Leon Jackson:

Facial recognition, DNA searches, digital privacy to air during 2020 legislative session

 

[jaejae]

Here is another report about the proposed legislation on the use of investigative genetic genealogy in Utah. There may be other issues but the first problem with investigative genetic genealogy is in my opinion that it is a flawed 'science' or unscientific and can lead to the wrong people being accused of crimes on the basis on supposed DNA hit that are in reality non existent and generated because of poor science. This happened in the Golden State Killer case in my opinion where the actual offender was a man called Ralph Leon Jackson. This is of course of relevance to the law makers in Utah and elsewhere and perhaps more relevant still is I suspect the same flawed processes may have been repeated to wrongly accuse innocent people in Utah of crimes they did not commit perhaps even again those of Ralph Leon Jackson:

Facial recognition, DNA searches, digital privacy to air during 2020 legislative session

Here is part of the above report about the proposed legislation. In my opinion you also have to factor in the privacy violations and suffering of those who have been wrongly accused through the use of investigative genetic genealogy:

Now civil rights advocates are backing Utah lawmakers in the effort to establish some basic protections on this data as law enforcement and other government agencies are increasingly accessing this information as a genetic blueprint for building the perfect criminal case.

Last month, Connor Boyack, president of Utah-based libertarian public advocacy group Libertas Institute, told the Deseret News that while the technology is a boon to amateur genealogists, the way it is being leveraged by government agencies raises concerns.

“In the past couple of years, law enforcement around the country have identified a new opportunity to use DNA to find and catch bad guys,” Boyack said. “At first blush, many might think this is an exciting new tool to catch criminals, however, when you look at it more closely, it’s actually a very profound violation of privacy.”

Facial recognition, DNA searches, digital privacy to air during 2020 legislative session

 

[jaejae]

Here is a magazine for LE Prosecutors which has an article about the use of investigative genetic genealogy in criminal prosecutions. In the case discussed it may be different and the right offender identified but as I have said on this thread in my opinion there have been many cases where the use of flawed investigative genealogy has lead to innocent men wrongly being accused of crimes they did not commit including in the Golden State Killer case and the case of Mr Talbott in Washington State:

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A great example of an area in which prosecutors should act proactively to set investigative guidelines is the field of forensic genetic genealogy (FGG).1 Early in 2018, my hometown police department, in conjunction with my office, used FGG to identify, arrest, and successfully prosecute an armed rapist who selected female lifeguards at local pools as his victims. Without FGG, this violent predator would never have been
unidentified and would have remained free to strike again. On the strength of FGG evidence, however, he elected to plead guilty and is currently awaiting sentencing.

http://ndaa.org/wp-content/uploads/NDAA_The-Prosecutor_Jan-2020_F.pdf

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Here is another report about investigative genetic genealogy:

Ozaukee County Sheriff’s Office – FOX6Now.com

 

[jaejae]

Here is another video about investigative genetic genealogy for Fox News. As I have said on this thread in my opinion investigative genetic genealogy is actually a flawed technology and unscientific and hence many mistakes have been made through its use including in the Golden State Killer where it lead to the wrongful arrest and incarceration of an innocent man and the actual offender in this case was a man called Ralph Leon Jackson:

Cold cases getting solved with new DNA system

 

[jaejae]

My questions raised about investigative genetic genealogy are not politically motivated they are about a moral obligation to speak out and what is right and what is wrong or what is just or what is injustice. To me it is wrong that innocent people suffer for another persons crimes. In my opinion the mistakes made by the investigative genetic genealogists do not discriminate between political views and the colour of peoples skin anyone in my opinion can be at the wrong end of the investigative genetic genealogists mistakes. Here is another report about the fact a LE Officer was able to obtain full access to all the profiles at GEDMATCH through a court order. Again in my opinion I feel it is likely that LE in Florida through the use of flawed investigative genetic genealogy science have made a number of mistakes identifying innocent men incorrectly as the offenders in serious crimes:

Law Enforcement Can Now Obtain Warrants To Search DNA Profiles - Your Black World

 

[jaejae]

My questions raised about investigative genetic genealogy are not politically motivated they are about a moral obligation to speak out and what is right and what is wrong or what is just or what is injustice. To me it is wrong that innocent people suffer for another persons crimes. In my opinion the mistakes made by the investigative genetic genealogists do not discriminate between political views and the colour of peoples skin anyone in my opinion can be at the wrong end of the investigative genetic genealogists mistakes. Here is another report about the fact a LE Officer was able to obtain full access to all the profiles at GEDMATCH through a court order. Again in my opinion I feel it is likely that LE in Florida through the use of flawed investigative genetic genealogy science have made a number of mistakes identifying innocent men incorrectly as the offenders in serious crimes:

Law Enforcement Can Now Obtain Warrants To Search DNA Profiles - Your Black World

Here is part of the above blog:

However, before this new policy came to be, police famously used GEDMatch to crack the case of the Golden State Killer, resulting in the arrest of a suspect in April 2018. The database also helped Michael Fields to solve a case, and was in high hopes that it would also help with another case he was handling in July.

In that view, the detective requested the Florida judge to grant him a warrant that would overrule the new policy, permitting him to search GEDmatch’s entire database, including users who hadn’t opted in. This means law enforcement agencies have access to the DNA of millions of people, regardless of whether they agree to the searches or not. The Florida judge, Patricia Strowbridge granted Michael Fields his request, enabling him to accomplish his mission.

Law Enforcement Can Now Obtain Warrants To Search DNA Profiles - Your Black World

 

[katydid23]

Probably best just to differ on that and no to go into a long discussion What i am saying is there is no valid DNA hit in the genetic genealogy cases I mentioned above and others because the science is flawed. In my opinion the DNA hits are 'phoney' ones. If you have studied the case Mr DeAngelo is nothing like the offender people were looking for. He is the wrong height, the wrong age looks nothing like any of the composite sketches etc etc and was not even in right town for the East Area Rapist cases

Composite sketches are often WRONG. Just like witnesses are often WRONG.

I would put DNA verification way above composite sketches in terms of credibility. JMO

 

[katydid23]

Thanks for the interesting report. The answer from me is I do not know where he lived at any particular time although when he was arrested it stated he was a lifelong resident of Virginia and I think he was always based so to speak in this state and was responsible for many crimes there as it was his home state. What I do know is that wherever he was at a particular time Virginia or beyond he unfortunately left a trail of destruction.

So you do not know 'where he lived at any particular time"......and yet you claim you do know 'he unfortunately left a trail of destruction.'

I don't see how you could know that he left a trail of destruction somewhere if you do not know where he lived at any particular time.

 

[katydid23]

Part of the above report;

RENO (AP) — A 73-year-old auto dealer from Arizona is expected to plead not guilty in Reno in the cold-case killing of a California woman more than 40 years ago.





RELATED: Possible serial killer captured in northern Arizona

Defense attorney David Houston said Monday he intends on Tuesday to challenge DNA evidence that prosecutors say leads to Charles Gary Sullivan.

Arizona man to plead not guilty in 1979 killing in Nevada

It seems to me there was some evidence besides just the DNA in these murders he was accused of:


Prosecutor: Arizona man suspected in 1979 killing may be a serial killer

Prosecutor: Arizona man suspected in 1979 killing may be a serial killer


In the court filing, Ford and prosecutors called Sullivan a suspect in the killing of Jennie Smith, a 17-year-old waitress at a Reno hotel-casino whose body was found in November 1979, and the unsolved disappearance of Linda Taylor, 23, in March 1979.

Sullivan was identified as a person of interest after Smith was reported missing in March 1978. Investigators said she told a friend she was going to buy cocaine from a man named Chuck.


Police determined that Smith and Sullivan knew each other, but Sullivan was not arrested and later moved out of Nevada.

In Taylor's case, prosecutors say a tip led investigators to Sullivan, who admitted dating Taylor but denied knowing what happened to her. The woman's body was never found.

Smith's skeletal remains were discovered in November 1979 off a remote hiking and biking trail outside Reno, not far from where Woodward's bludgeoned body was found in March 1979.


Woodward, of San Rafael, California, had been last seen by a friend a month earlier at San Francisco International Airport, where she planned to board a flight to the Reno and Lake Tahoe area, authorities said.

Prosecutors said it appeared both Smith and Woodward had their eyes bandaged, their underwear and identification stolen, and were left wearing one shoe.

 

[jaejae]

Composite sketches are often WRONG. Just like witnesses are often WRONG.

I would put DNA verification way above composite sketches in terms of credibility. JMO

Thanks for the interest. As I have stated on this thread in my opinion many of those DNA hits supposedly generated by investigative genealogy are in reality non existent generated by poor and flawed unscientic procedures and use of DNA. Therefore the LE presenting the DNA hits as fact do not understand they ate in reality presented a non existent DNA hit as fact. This is my opinion and I am one thread against dozens of professionals and a multi million dollar campaign to get people to enter DNA into databases for LE use and I want it to be checked. I am pretty sure the FBI know who Jackson was.

 

[jaejae]

So you do not know 'where he lived at any particular time"......and yet you claim you do know 'he unfortunately left a trail of destruction.'

I don't see how you could know that he left a trail of destruction somewhere if you do not know where he lived at any particular time.

Sometimes it is what you can't see as opposed to what you can see but Jackson committed a crime on the Parkways just like the Colonial Parkway Killer. This is not me being funny but is you actually study the Golden State Killer case he is much more like the offender than the man being held for the crimes at the moment. He is more like EAR/ONS than EAR/ONS was and all you have to do is place him and his bull tattoo and pock marked face in California and I have seen it written down after his sentencing in 2011 he was a ten year military veteran. Cheers

 

[jaejae]

Sometimes it is what you can't see as opposed to what you can see but Jackson committed a crime on the Parkways just like the Colonial Parkway Killer. This is not me being funny but is you actually study the Golden State Killer case he is much more like the offender than the man being held for the crimes at the moment. He is more like EAR/ONS than EAR/ONS was and all you have to do is place him and his bull tattoo and pock marked face in California and I have seen it written down after his sentencing in 2011 he was a ten year military veteran. Cheers

Plus unlike the man being held for the crimes it has been proved he is a killer.

 

[jaejae]

If it matters nowadays in my opinion Roy Waller was not the Nor Cal Rapist and flawed investigative genetic genealogy science has generated another erroneous supposed DNA hit in this case as in my opinion it did in the Golden State Killer case and the actual offender was again a man called Ralph Leon Jackson. In my opinion you can view the Nor Cal Rapist crimes as an extension of Jackson's East Area Rapist crimes and I can see it is Jackson not Roy Waller behind the hockey mask in the CCTV:

Judge: Man charged with being NorCal Rapist must stand trial

 

[jaejae]

If it matters nowadays in my opinion Roy Waller was not the Nor Cal Rapist and flawed investigative genetic genealogy science has generated another erroneous supposed DNA hit in this case as in my opinion it did in the Golden State Killer case and the actual offender was again a man called Ralph Leon Jackson. In my opinion you can view the Nor Cal Rapist crimes as an extension of Jackson's East Area Rapist crimes and I can see it is Jackson not Roy Waller behind the hockey mask in the CCTV:
Judge: Man charged with being NorCal Rapist must stand trial

It is my opinion that there have been many mistakes through the use of investigative genetic genealogy including in the Golden State Killer case where an innocent man was wrongly accused of the crimes and the actual offender was a man called Ralph Leon Jackson and in my opinion the FBI have been aware that Jackson was the offender in the crimes since 2010. In my opinion another mistake was in the case of Mr Talbott where there was a wrongful conviction after the DNA evidence in this case was not challenged. Again in the case of Mr Talbott I believe in reality there was no legitimate DNA hit and the erroneous one produced was the product of poor science and again the FBI are aware of the fact there is no legitimate DNA hit in this case. Here are details of another case where investigative genetic genealogy was used to identify a possible suspect and I again ask concerned groups and individuals to look into the fact a mistake may have been made by LE in this case:

For several months, Stane has been locked up in the Tulare County jail waiting for a trial. But Fresno County District Attorney Lisa Smittcamp and Tulare County District Attorney Tim Ward announced Wednesday they will combine the two cases, with Stane being tried in Fresno County.


Ward said it makes sense to have one jury decide Stane’s fate, rather than hold two separate trials.

Senior Deputy District Attorney Deborah Miller will be the prosecutor. Stane is expected to make his first Fresno County court appearance on Feb. 6 where he will be arraigned in Dept. 33.

If found guilty, Stane could face life in prison without the possibility of parole or the death penalty. Smittcamp, however, said that decision has not yet been made.


Read more here: https://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/article239744018.html#storylink=cpy

https://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/article239744018.html

 

[jaejae]

Here is a report about OPT IN to LE access to your DNA campaign. Of course it is a good thing to see violent criminals off the street and getting justice. At the moment in my opinion the OPT IN campaign are being allowed to present their arguments and encourage innocent people to allow LE and their investigative genetic genealogists to access their DNA without the full facts beings know and in my opinion this includes the fact that many innocent people have been wrongly accused of crimes they did not commit through the use of investigative genetic genealogy that is scientifically but is being presented as scientific fact by people who do understand it flaws. Hence because of this are many people facing lengthy legal proceedings for crimes they did not commit and are being threatened with life imprisonment or the death penalty on the basis of flawed and poor science that produces erroneous DNA hits that in reality are non existent:

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[jaejae]

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[jaejae]

This rape suspect who was identified through the use of investigative genealogy in Utah I believe by Barbara Rae-Venter who helped to identify Joseph DeAngelo as the suspect in the Golden State Killer case is now suspected in a murder. Again I say in my opinion Barbara Rae-Venter made a mistake in the Golden State Killer case and the actual offender was a man called Ralph Leon Jackson:

The Evanston Police Department on Thursday announced it would be screening charges against Mark Douglas Burns, 69, with the Uinta County Attorney’s Office in Wyoming in connection with the 2001 homicide of an Evanston woman.

Sue Ellen Higgins, 28, was killed in her residence in July 2001, according to a statement from Evanston police.

“While the Evanston Police Department investigated this case thoroughly, the lack of evidence prohibited resolution and the case became an inactive cold case,” the department said in a statement.

Suspect in multiple Utah rapes tied to Wyoming killing, police say

 

[jaejae]

This rape suspect who was identified through the use of investigative genealogy in Utah I believe by Barbara Rae-Venter who helped to identify Joseph DeAngelo as the suspect in the Golden State Killer case is now suspected in a murder. Again I say in my opinion Barbara Rae-Venter made a mistake in the Golden State Killer case and the actual offender was a man called Ralph Leon Jackson:

The Evanston Police Department on Thursday announced it would be screening charges against Mark Douglas Burns, 69, with the Uinta County Attorney’s Office in Wyoming in connection with the 2001 homicide of an Evanston woman.

Sue Ellen Higgins, 28, was killed in her residence in July 2001, according to a statement from Evanston police.

“While the Evanston Police Department investigated this case thoroughly, the lack of evidence prohibited resolution and the case became an inactive cold case,” the department said in a statement.

Suspect in multiple Utah rapes tied to Wyoming killing, police say

Here is a report from the Daily Mail about this developments in the Utah case mentioned in the above post:

Man charged with raping at least 11 women 'confesses to being a serial killer' | Daily Mail Online