VA - Scott Fricker, 48, & Buckley Kuhn-Fricker, 43, slain, Reston, 22 Dec 2017 *daughter’s bf charged*

[Lilibet]

If this Buzzfeed article is true, I’m so concerned about Buckley texting a classmate/friend of her daughter about her concerns. I can’t imagine doing that. The girl was 18 and going to the same school for troubled kids. What was she thinking confiding in her? I would hate my mother for sharing intimate details about me with a classmate. Wouldn’t you share those concerns with the school? They have counselors and family counseling. It’s bizarre to me.

[FONT=&quot]Kuhn-Fricker told Allem that her daughter often forgot to take care of basic things for herself like taking her medicines at night, because she was "completely engrossed on the phone" with the suspect.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]"And we are controlling because she just turned 16 years old and we are caring parents and she will have more freedoms as she gets older," she said.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Kuhn-Fricker also said that her daughter cried "when she can't talk to him" and that she thought her parents were "nazis" for giving her a two-hour limit while talking to her boyfriend.[/FONT]

https://www.buzzfeed.com/tasneemnashrulla/texts-from-mom-shot-dead-after-confronting-boyfriend

http://www.thedominionschool.com/family_program.htm

 

[rsd1200]

I don't believe that she 'indoctrinated' her from birth. They brought her up with their own values. That is not indoctrination. They are not the ones preaching hate to their daughter.

Call it what you will, but, she was brought up under her mother's thumb, and in a liberal home, and she went for the kid who was the Nazi... Yeah, this kid was just misguided... I think she liked the bad boy aspect and didn't have a clue, other than they were both "private" school kids, and they were in love. She was in there for a reason. I've spent that kind of money, that was not easy on my bank account, on a "private" school. Sounds classy but they ain't. Don't mean to get no one's knickers in a bunch, but, I've been to the mountaintop.

 

[Jennifer17]

I'd wondered about that wording too, and I bet that she wanted to yank her daughter out of the school after Christmas Break, and was expecting to be released from her contract with the school, and their funds returned.

It is the right which the vendor reserves to himself, to reacquire the property sold provided her returns to the vendee the price of the sale, the expenses of the contract, any other legitimate payments made therefore and the necessary and useful expenses made on the thing sold, and fulfills other stipulations which may have been agreed upon.

https://definitions.uslegal.com/r/redemption/

I would get my daughter out of there quickly too. I wonder why she was there in the first place. Has she been a problem? You would have to think so. I can't see how putting 27 disturbed kids together is going to help them. They have no daily interaction with non problem kids, just other disturbed kids. I wonder who thought that that was a great idea/

 

[Jennifer17]

Call it what you will, but, she was brought up under her mother's thumb, and in a liberal home, and she went for the kid who was the Nazi... Yeah, this kid was just misguided... I think she liked the bad boy aspect and didn't have a clue, other than they were both "private" school kids, and they were in love. She was in there for a reason. I've spent that kind of money, that was not easy on my bank account, on a "private" school. Sounds classy but biaain't. Don't mean to get no one's knickers in a bunch, but, I've been to the mountaintop.

Whereas, he was brought up in a non liberal home and he is the murderer. He should have had a mother's thumb over him. And it may have been better for that boy if his mother wasn't showing her political and racial bias all over facebook. God knows what he heard at home.

 

[Lilibet]

I'd wondered about that wording too, and I bet that she wanted to yank her daughter out of the school after Christmas Break, and was expecting to be released from her contract with the school, and their funds returned.

It is the right which the vendor reserves to himself, to reacquire the property sold provided her returns to the vendee the price of the sale, the expenses of the contract, any other legitimate payments made therefore and the necessary and useful expenses made on the thing sold, and fulfills other stipulations which may have been agreed upon.

https://definitions.uslegal.com/r/redemption/

Good research. But why would she mention legal redemption to the boy’s mother if it had to do with being released from her contract with the school? The website says that the school district pays the tuition anyway.

Without reading the specific definition of redemption, I took it to mean that the boy’s parents couldn’t sue her for telling the school about him, because he was sneaking into their house and was an outspoken Neo Nazi and that would negate any legal recourse for them.

 

[Lilibet]

And another thing...did no one in the school hear what this boy was saying? Clearly, the girl being interviewed knew. Didn’t she tell someone? This stuff is terrible. [FONT=&amp]Maybe she tried to warn the mom and that’s why they were texting. [/FONT]

[FONT=&amp]Allem said the suspect often talked about "murder" and "very violent disturbing things" at the school. She said he made fun of another classmate by saying that he had "Jew curls." The teen also used to make anti-Semitic jokes with his friend, raise his hand and say "Heil Hitler," and "say things like 'The Nazis are coming back,'" Allem said.[/FONT]

[FONT=&amp]According to Allem, the suspect "would try to manipulate" Kuhn-Fricker's daughter into hating her parents and told her that their "control over her is not warranted."[/FONT]

[FONT=&amp]He also made jokes and "references towards violence" against her parents, but "never acted on it until now," Allem told BuzzFeed News.[/FONT]

[FONT=&amp]"All I know is he didn't like them very much," she said. "And he felt they were getting in the way."

[/FONT]https://www.buzzfeed.com/tasneemnashrulla/texts-from-mom-shot-dead-after-confronting-boyfriend

 

[rsd1200]

If this Buzzfeed article is true, I’m so concerned about Buckley texting a classmate/friend of her daughter about her concerns. I can’t imagine doing that. The girl was 18 and going to the same school for troubled kids. What was she thinking confiding in her? I would hate my mother for sharing intimate details about me with a classmate. Wouldn’t you share those concerns with the school? They have counselors and family counseling. It’s bizarre to me.

[FONT=&amp]Kuhn-Fricker told Allem that her daughter often forgot to take care of basic things for herself like taking her medicines at night, because she was "completely engrossed on the phone" with the suspect.[/FONT]

[FONT=&amp]"And we are controlling because she just turned 16 years old and we are caring parents and she will have more freedoms as she gets older," she said.[/FONT]

[FONT=&amp]Kuhn-Fricker also said that her daughter cried "when she can't talk to him" and that she thought her parents were "nazis" for giving her a two-hour limit while talking to her boyfriend.[/FONT]

https://www.buzzfeed.com/tasneemnashrulla/texts-from-mom-shot-dead-after-confronting-boyfriend

http://www.thedominionschool.com/family_program.htm

I 100% agree. I was very surprised to see this too and shocked, quite frankly, seeing the type of school her child was in, and counseling, etc... then burdening another student? I'd have never done that to my child. I've asked their friends if they've seen them, to have them call me, but that's very personal, and in a classroom that size you know they all talked. I think both families had some issues going on. We may never know.

 

[rsd1200]

I would get my daughter out of there quickly too. I wonder why she was there in the first place. Has she been a problem? You would have to think so. I can't see how putting 27 disturbed kids together is going to help them. They have no daily interaction with non problem kids, just other disturbed kids. I wonder who thought that that was a great idea/

It is not. It is a horrible idea. We even tried private boarding school, to break ours away from connections. Not a good idea at all. It may work for some folks but I think these type of schools are a bad idea, in general. It further points them out as the "bad kids" or they're just not smart, etc... To be in that school, you pretty much gotta be a problem to someone.

 

[Gardenista]

This quote has been bothering me...

In a message she sent to the boyfriend’s mother, Kuhn-Fricker reportedly wrote that the boy “was sneaking into our house at night … and is an outspoken Neo Nazi. These things render any legal redemption void.”

http://people.com/crime/reston-va-murders-parents-daughter-neo-nazi-boyfriend-fear/

What on Earth is she talking about? Legal redemption?

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Very, very scary

 

[rsd1200]

Whereas, he was brought up in a non liberal home and he is the murderer. He should have had a mother's thumb over him. And it may have been better for that boy if his mother wasn't showing her political and racial bias all over facebook. God knows what he heard at home.

You are right, only God knows what he heard in his home and what she heard in hers. They were both troubled kids. She had to have let him inside...

 

[rsd1200]

Good research. But why would she mention legal redemption to the boy’s mother if it had to do with being released from her contract with the school? The website says that the school district pays the tuition anyway.

Without reading the specific definition of redemption, I took it to mean that the boy’s parents couldn’t sue her for telling the school about him, because he was sneaking into their house and was an outspoken Neo Nazi and that would negate any legal recourse for them.

I'm sorry, it's been a tough week and my mind is a bit foggy. You are correct, it was his parents. I've got nothin' on that. You're probably right.

 

[Lilibet]

I'm sorry, it's been a tough week and my mind is a bit foggy. You are correct, it was his parents. I've got nothin' on that. You're probably right.

:therethere: Time for bed. Off you go....fftobed: :bed:

 

[Jennifer17]

You are right, only God knows what he heard in his home and what she heard in hers. They were both troubled kids. She had to have let him insde...

I am sorry, but I think she heard compassion and kindness in her home and he heard resentment and hate in his home and the result of that is here for everyone to see. The girl brought up in a liberal house did not kill her right wing boyfriends parents. The boy brought up in a right wing household killed her parents.

 

[rsd1200]

And another thing...did no one in the school hear what this boy was saying? Clearly, the girl being interviewed knew. Didn’t she tell someone? This stuff is terrible. [FONT=&amp]Maybe she tried to warn the mom and that’s why they were texting. [/FONT]

[FONT=&amp]Allem said the suspect often talked about "murder" and "very violent disturbing things" at the school. She said he made fun of another classmate by saying that he had "Jew curls." The teen also used to make anti-Semitic jokes with his friend, raise his hand and say "Heil Hitler," and "say things like 'The Nazis are coming back,'" Allem said.[/FONT]

[FONT=&amp]According to Allem, the suspect "would try to manipulate" Kuhn-Fricker's daughter into hating her parents and told her that their "control over her is not warranted."[/FONT]

[FONT=&amp]He also made jokes and "references towards violence" against her parents, but "never acted on it until now," Allem told BuzzFeed News.[/FONT]

[FONT=&amp]"All I know is he didn't like them very much," she said. "And he felt they were getting in the way."

[/FONT]https://www.buzzfeed.com/tasneemnashrulla/texts-from-mom-shot-dead-after-confronting-boyfriend

Again, this is the student speaking. She's there for a reason too. I'm gonna tell ya, at high school age, this was probably a pretty tough group to handle. She saw something in him. It's not uncommon for a rebellious child to pick the direct opposite of their parent's choice just to push back even harder.

 

[rsd1200]

I am sorry, but I think she heard compassion and kindness in her home and he heard resentment and hate in his home and the result of that is here for everyone to see. The girl brought up in a liberal house did not kill her right wing boyfriends parents. The boy brought up in a right wing household killed her parents.

I'm sorry but I see two households with messed up kids. We don't know that his parent's were Nazis. That's a big leap from conservative, or even right wing, to allude to someone being a Nazi, and I'm considered a liberal where I come from.

 

[Confusion]

I would get my daughter out of there quickly too. I wonder why she was there in the first place. Has she been a problem? You would have to think so. I can't see how putting 27 disturbed kids together is going to help them. They have no daily interaction with non problem kids, just other disturbed kids. I wonder who thought that that was a great idea/

I have to say that I think it's a great idea. My son went to a school like that from 8th to 11th grade because of his severe anxiety. The small classes (they had 5-8 kids per class where he went, with a teacher and at least one aide in the room at all times) allows more one to one time, the zero tolerance rules kept the trouble makers in line better, and made those who weren't trouble makers feel much safer. The majority of the students there in the higher grades (they had them from kindergarten to 12th grade) were either gang members or "wannabe" gang members, but they were usually kept in line and actually taught. Unfortunately, not all of their learning carried over to their out of school/post graduation time. I know more than one ended up in prison for murder, and at least one ended up being murdered, but I'd like to think that others besides my son were helped by being there.

 

[rsd1200]

:therethere: Time for bed. Off you go....fftobed: :bed:

LOL, thanks, I really should. Maybe I can... :countsheep:

 

[Jennifer17]

I'm sorry but I see two households with messed up kids. We don't know that his parent's were Nazis. That's a big leap from conservative, or even right wing, to allude to someone being a Nazi, and I'm considered a liberal where I come from.

I am pretty sure that his parents were not Nazis, but his mother was out there flouting her racial bias on facebook with nasty posts.
I am quite passionate about politics but you will not find any posts on my personal facebook page swearing at and laughing about violence toward people that I disagree with. That mother thought is was funny that a schoolchild had his chair kicked out from under him and shared it all over facebook. Laughing her head off. It would bet that she is not laughing now.

 

[rsd1200]

I have to say that I think it's a great idea. My son went to a school like that from 8th to 11th grade because of his severe anxiety. The small classes (they had 5-8 kids per class where he went, with a teacher and at least one aide in the room at all times) allows more one to one time, the zero tolerance rules kept the trouble makers in line better, and made those who weren't trouble makers feel much safer. The majority of the students there in the higher grades (they had them from kindergarten to 12th grade) were either gang members or "wannabe" gang members, but they were usually kept in line and actually taught. Unfortunately, not all of their learning carried over to their out of school/post graduation time. I know more than one ended up in prison for murder, and at least one ended up being murdered, but I'd like to think that others besides my son were helped by being there.

I'm very glad it worked out for your son. It's just not for some kids. Mine was one of them, but, hindsight is always 20/20. I was willing to try. I beat myself up over making that choice, too. A lot. It's a double edged sword for us parents. You sent yours and all turned out pretty well. Mine is not a violent person. Great personality. Nice lookin' kid, but has some difficulties, so, an empty spot this Christmas. My heart breaks for him. I rethink something, about what I could have done, or done differently, almost every, single, day.

 

[rsd1200]

I am pretty sure that his parents were not Nazis, but his mother was out there flouting her racial bias on facebook with nasty posts.
I am quite passionate about politics but you will not find any posts on my personal facebook page swearing at and laughing about violence toward people that I disagree with. That mother thought is was funny that a schoolchild had his chair kicked out from under him and shared it all over facebook. Laughing her head off. It would bet that she is not laughing now.

I've not seen her FB so can't speak to that. I am quite passionate about politics as well but I don't think that his mother, getting on FB, and being an @ss, is what caused this. I, as an adult, would never call another mother's child a monster, but that's just me. I'd never go to their friends and whisper in their ears, either. I think these two families had some issues within themselves. I may not ascribe to their humor, or views, but I cannot say that those views made her kid a murdering Nazi. The U.S. has always had Nazis. They are a political party. They are not banned. Everyone freaks out when they step into the light, but I'd prefer to see my adversary.