VA - Virginia Tech Shooting, 32 murdered, 23 injured, 16 April 2007

  • #161
No picture yet that i know of.. I'm going to paste "unknown"'s "about me" section thats on Myspace in case any of ya'll can't get in. It's very long, however there are some disturbing things in it that make me think this was a last minute effort of the shooter to make people think it was a conspiracy or more than one person involved.

Unknown's about me section is as follows:
I’m a rational individual who has a cynical outlook on life. I have a logical thought process. I would deem myself intelligent compared to some people of this world… who lack intellect. I’m willing to let myself loose when I’m in the presence of friends. I use to be open-minded but recently I’ve become much more skeptical overall and require evidence to back up claims which I suspect are over exaggerated and over imaginative. For an example, if someone claimed they’d had an encounter with a mythological beast, I’d require some forms of evidence… claims such as this alone are doubtful, though if I knew the person well and was positive I could trust them, I might believe them. A witness who was with them or a photograph is always good though if they saw such a creature, proof is a handy counterpart, when you’re trying to prove something… This is the future for you though; we use to be able to trust each other as brothers, but now individuals are more willing to be deceitful and to lie and manipulate for their own advantage and upper hand against you if you’re their enemy. I believe no one is truly good at heart; everyone will always have a trace of selfishness within them. There are individuals who are selfless in their acts and are willing to participate to aid other humans, who could be called humanitarians. But in the end, if they’ve got a gun to their face and they’ve got an option, them or you – who would they really choose? When faced with death, the person you know could become unpredictable and willing to do anything to spare their life to live on. I’m not generalizing that every person would do this; a person may attempt to disarm the person in a heroic act, or simply continue to beg, or fall down with a nervous breakdown, or give himself up as a sacrifice. I’m just saying, I believe some people who are selfless, would change when under such pressure, and could become selfish with ease. Death is different than helping someone. You may think I’m paranoid. Well I’m not. Not everyone had hidden motives against you, and I’m simply stating… that life is not all good as optimistic people believe and share. There are many positive things about civilization and this world, but we should mainly look on the negative to improve the negative factors which down our world to a lower level. I’m very determined and motivated when I see a long-term goal I wish to accomplish. I will concentrate my efforts into completing that goal as necessary. I prefer to remain indoors than outside… I’m an insolated individual. I’m not depressed nor having an episode of psychosis. I just prefer being alone than within the presence of people. I enjoy people who share the same interests as me; I generally have a narrow interest. I also lack in the area of empathizing and being emotionally responsive. I'm also rather detached in thought in real life and distant. I often look to the future over the past and present, mainly in curiosity where we’re heading towards. For an example, if we have no future, all the effort we’re putting into this world, would be useless, due to it will lead no where without a future. I’m a very analytic individual overall, I tend to judge too. Also I dislike people who do not work to the best of their capabilities. I prefer people who do not lack, and show full potential for their abilities and put all their effort into it. And if you’re expecting the best from them, they should work their hardest to fulfill your expectations. If you begin to lack, I won't hesitate to tell you your flaw... I dislike people who do not work to their best, due to they're wasting potential they're not using.
 
  • #162
Just watched the presser. I wanted to choke that damn college kid asking questions. WE WANT EVIDENCE! Not a complete questioning of campus police and an email. Why do they let them in professional pressers?

MG
 
  • #163
I just googled William Morva; he was the killer (escaped inmate of the last incident at Virginia Tech). Sorry about that, i should have googled first..
 
  • #164
Just watched the presser. I wanted to choke that damn college kid asking questions. WE WANT EVIDENCE! Not a complete questioning of campus police and an email. Why do they let them in professional pressers?

MG


Evidence of what, pray tell?

32 innocents' bodies isn't enough evidence for the boy? :loser:
 
  • #165
I just googled William Morva; he was the killer (escaped inmate of the last incident at Virginia Tech). Sorry about that, i should have googled first..

:slap:

(joking! :) )
 
  • #166
Count update per WUSA:

33 dead
30 more injured, of which some are still in surgery
 
  • #167
Count update per WUSA:

33 dead
30 more injured, of which some are still in surgery


My thoughts are 32 are outright victims and 1 is the shooter. i so hope no one else dies of their injuries.

all sooo young, it's impossible to think of their loss of life and bright futures and the dreadful pit of despair their families must be going through for the rest of their lives. :(
 
  • #168
I second that. I can't stop thinking about this and it makes me sooooo sad.
Oh my God....I just don't know what to say about this. This has got to be the worst nightmare!! It's something that I can never try to understand. The last report I saw this morning the count was only 17 dead...I had an emergency and just got to start reading. I see now it's over 30. All those young people, good kids, and their families. My heart is just screaming....
 
  • #169
I would imagine that will be L.E. just an inkling i have. they will not be leaving any stone unturned when it's being reported as the biggest massacre in U.S. history. i would think.

oh yes and i think the person who has the myspace account is somewhere in an undisclosed location right now. being taken care of by L.E. to find out if he really has anything to do with this business.

Hi Floh, How would they know who he is so quickly? Thanks Sweetie
 
  • #170
The shooter is Asian, they said on Fox News.

That my space profile says he's caucasian.

Is that My Space a hoax?
 
  • #171
Hi Floh, How would they know who he is so quickly? Thanks Sweetie

Hi Scandi
When I talked to the police techs, they were already onto this. They were checking out the profiles on myspace and hacking inot them. I told them I was with Websleuth's and some posters on here thought they should know about the profiles and then I told them we all offer our condolences....


I don't know if the profile is that of the killer or not, but I checked out the friends he has on myspace and they all but a few go to VA Tech. So it is possible that this is him. As for Unknown....he or someone, is online now and I noticed that the only friend he had (besides Tom) has deleted himself as a friend....after he posted a comment on unknown's blog. That friend was "I love Eggs" His comment was something like "you go the FBI on your A$$ now"
 
  • #172
The shooter is Asian, they said on Fox News.

That my space profile says he's caucasian.

Is that My Space a hoax?

The killer's profile doesn't declare a race....his profile name is "Yes.."

but who knows at this point....I lean toward a hoax and then I think welll, it could be.
 
  • #173
The shooter was not on line. He committed suicide at the crime scene. This was reported by CNN at 2pm est and is confirmed in the below article. The article can be read in its entirety at the below link.

http://www.poststar.com/articles/2007/04/16/ap/headlines/d8ohumi00.txt
Gunman, 32 Others Killed in Va. Shooting

By SUE LINDSEY
Published: Monday, April 16, 2007

Armed officers stand on the Virginia Tech campus near McBryde Hall, Monday, April 16, 2007, in Blacksburg, Va. A gunman opened fire in a Virginia Tech dorm and then, two hours later, in a classroom across campus Monday, killing at least 30 people. (AP Photo/The Roanoke Times, Matt Gentry)

BLACKSBURG, Va. - A gunman opened fire in a Virginia Tech dorm and then, two hours later, shot up a classroom across campus Monday, killing 32 people in the deadliest shooting rampage in U.S. history. The gunman committed suicide, bringing the death toll to 33.
 
  • #174
It looks as though the "unknown" person is making like the mastermind, that someone, perhaps "yes", did the shooting. Both are online, so that is fishy, unless the FBI did hack in and took over the profiles.

I want to say "hoax"... but in this day and time, you never can tell. :(
 
  • #175
Thanks Ember, I think the myspace situation sounds quite plausible as being a friend or co-conspirator of the killer.

I did email AMW and now see it wasn't necessary, but that's OK. The more that are aware of this the better I think, and there will be more brains figuring it out. This guy was particularly sick I think, and I hope they can get his info quick and nail him for something!

The guys at Columbine had myspace accts. So did the guy who killed the college girl in Richmond - the Goth guy. names right now??? So it is worth checking into.

They just said on FOX there are still bodies in the classrooom and for these students, they said their parents will be getting calls this afternoon. Also they have not ID'ed this guy positively yet. I'm sure they know who he is but it is not confirmed yet for the public.

They are still wondering if the same guy shot in both locations. But when you read that first paragraph on myspace it says it was planned so LE wouldn't be suspicious of anything else about to happen. Oh, they are saying now that the first shooter was seen leaving the campus, and maybe could have left
the state. I think he could have come back if that was his plan, right?

I also read the two killed in the dorm were his GF and the guy she was with, and the guy was shot in the groin.
 
  • #176
Ryan Clark a resident assistant was the male who was killed in the early morning shooting at the dorm.
 
  • #177
Hi Floh, How would they know who he is so quickly? Thanks Sweetie

I think that people at Websleuths are top rank in their search and finds. i have to hope L.E. top websleuths, even, and found out who and where this person was and is very, very quickly. this is so top priority.

i imagine they have a direct line to myspace accounts and IPs and seriously can find anyone they want whenever they want. i also, as an aside, hope if i become some massacre maniac and were to advertise any involvement with an 'incident' i created on Websleuths they would be able to tap into or simply contact admin on this site for my IP address and track me down to the Straße i live in and haul me away (cos i'd be off my head should i make a massacre you understand and in my lucid moment i'd want to be hauled away, of course. when i looked back on it) within a very short space of time even though they'd have to do it internationally.

they already know the exact spot you are in in Portland, Oregon should you go nuclear, Scandi. :) and they know i have 27 2nd cousins in Oregon. and i don't support Bush and am talking my emails to said cousins to support Barack — but that's another thread. :)

Edited to add: Mods/admin — i give permission for you to reveal my IP to any of L.E. should they so require if i ever cause 'concern' in this world. :)
 
  • #178
Thanks Ember, I think the myspace situation sounds quite plausible as being a friend or co-conspirator of the killer.

I did email AMW and now see it wasn't necessary, but that's OK. The more that are aware of this the better I think, and there will be more brains figuring it out. This guy was particularly sick I think, and I hope they can get his info quick and nail him for something!

The guys at Columbine had myspace accts. So did the guy who killed the college girl in Richmond - the Goth guy. names right now??? So it is worth checking into.

.

Ben Fawley or something like that. He killed Taylor Behl :(
 
  • #179
The shooter was not on line. He committed suicide at the crime scene.



Sorry, duh...I must have had a brain burp...I knew that he killed himself....just too many thoughts running through my head all at once!
This myspace thing has my interest peaked big time! I'm anxious to see if anything pans out from this.
Thanks for keeping me straight....:)
 
  • #180
Thanks Ember, I think the myspace situation sounds quite plausible as being a friend or co-conspirator of the killer.

I did email AMW and now see it wasn't necessary, but that's OK. The more that are aware of this the better I think, and there will be more brains figuring it out. This guy was particularly sick I think, and I hope they can get his info quick and nail him for something!

The guys at Columbine had myspace accts. So did the guy who killed the college girl in Richmond - the Goth guy. names right now??? So it is worth checking into.

They just said on FOX there are still bodies in the classrooom and for these students, they said their parents will be getting calls this afternoon. Also they have not ID'ed this guy positively yet. I'm sure they know who he is but it is not confirmed yet for the public.

They are still wondering if the same guy shot in both locations. But when you read that first paragraph on myspace it says it was planned so LE wouldn't be suspicious of anything else about to happen. Oh, they are saying now that the first shooter was seen leaving the campus, and maybe could have left
the state. I think he could have come back if that was his plan, right?

I also read the two killed in the dorm were his GF and the guy she was with, and the guy was shot in the groin.


Has there been any confirmation that the first shooting was connected to the 2nd shooting?
 

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