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In other words, under the dictatorship of a Communist.
Venezuela - President Nicolas Maduro & his wife "captured and flown out of country" by U.S. Army Delta Force during "large scale attack" - Jan 3, 2026
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Putin will let him have Venezuela, he'll let Putin have Ukraine. IMO
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Going to go down like a bucket of cold sick with all of them if this ruins their tourism industries.
Moo....if trump was taken out illegally some people would be dancing in the streets. Doesn't make it right...moo
In my personal opinion:
It’s so funny how people can comment on something they know so little about and that is being spun by a certain group.
It’s an EXTREMELY positive thing that happened and actually miraculous that it went down so smoothly.
Praying the transition to the proper democracy that the Venezuelan majority voted for is equally smooth.
Bravo to the US!!!
Finally we are showing bravery in the face of tyranny.
The good, faithful, honest people of Venezuela have BEGGED us for years to help/ to intervene.
Maduro WAS NOT the legitimate president.
He refused to move aside despite fewer votes- by a large margin than Edmundo Gonzalez received. Illegal, unethical and criminal.
He is an evil demonic dictator who (along with Chavez) ruined one of the most elegant countries in the world.
NOW THERE IS HOPE FOR FREEDOM AND A RETURN TO THE LEGITIMATE COUNTRY VENEZUELA WAS BEFORE IT WAS CORRUPTED in the late 1980s.
As someone who has been to Venezuela, is very close to many born in Venezuela and has been watching this story for many years and very closely for months- I CAN VOUCH THAT THIS IS AN ANSWER TO PRAYER FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF VENEZUELANS.
If anyone is confused about this GLORIOUS GUTSY thing we just did- study it.
Read about Leoplodo Lopez & Edmundo Gonzalez - both exiled in Madrid.
Look at Maria Corina Machado’s Instagram page and scroll back to voting day when the brave people of this country brought the voting receipts to her- atop a truck.
By all means WATCH THE VIDEO OF HER DAUGHTER ACCEPTING THE NOBEL PRIZE ON HER BEHALF- LISTEN TO HER SPEECH - read about her recent journey to Oslo.
Open your heart to the possibility that this move to arrest Maduro was a godsend to the people who need it desperately- to those who have suffered under unspeakable tyranny and have begged for help.
THIS IS THE DAY OF LIBERTY IN VENEZUELA- praise God!!
Long live Venezuela and the proud people of Venezuela.
Nobody educated on this is naive enough to think this is a move against drugs alone.
The country benefited GREATLY in the past and will benefit GREATLY again when the Venezuelan oil industry is run by legitimate oil companies and not corrupt dictators.
Maria Corina’s official statement below:
www.breitbart.com
Gloria al Bravo Puebla Venezuela - GLORY TO THE BRAVE PEOPLE
It’s so funny how people can comment on something they know so little about and that is being spun by a certain group.
It’s an EXTREMELY positive thing that happened and actually miraculous that it went down so smoothly.
Praying the transition to the proper democracy that the Venezuelan majority voted for is equally smooth.
Bravo to the US!!!
Finally we are showing bravery in the face of tyranny.
The good, faithful, honest people of Venezuela have BEGGED us for years to help/ to intervene.
Maduro WAS NOT the legitimate president.
He refused to move aside despite fewer votes- by a large margin than Edmundo Gonzalez received. Illegal, unethical and criminal.
He is an evil demonic dictator who (along with Chavez) ruined one of the most elegant countries in the world.
NOW THERE IS HOPE FOR FREEDOM AND A RETURN TO THE LEGITIMATE COUNTRY VENEZUELA WAS BEFORE IT WAS CORRUPTED in the late 1980s.
As someone who has been to Venezuela, is very close to many born in Venezuela and has been watching this story for many years and very closely for months- I CAN VOUCH THAT THIS IS AN ANSWER TO PRAYER FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF VENEZUELANS.
If anyone is confused about this GLORIOUS GUTSY thing we just did- study it.
Read about Leoplodo Lopez & Edmundo Gonzalez - both exiled in Madrid.
Look at Maria Corina Machado’s Instagram page and scroll back to voting day when the brave people of this country brought the voting receipts to her- atop a truck.
By all means WATCH THE VIDEO OF HER DAUGHTER ACCEPTING THE NOBEL PRIZE ON HER BEHALF- LISTEN TO HER SPEECH - read about her recent journey to Oslo.
Open your heart to the possibility that this move to arrest Maduro was a godsend to the people who need it desperately- to those who have suffered under unspeakable tyranny and have begged for help.
THIS IS THE DAY OF LIBERTY IN VENEZUELA- praise God!!
Long live Venezuela and the proud people of Venezuela.
Nobody educated on this is naive enough to think this is a move against drugs alone.
The country benefited GREATLY in the past and will benefit GREATLY again when the Venezuelan oil industry is run by legitimate oil companies and not corrupt dictators.
Maria Corina’s official statement below:
María Corina Machado on Maduro's Capture: 'The Time Has Come for Sovereignty'
Venezuelan opposition leader María Corina Machado said that “the time has come for sovereignty” following the capture of Nicolás Maduro.
www.breitbart.com
Gloria al Bravo Puebla Venezuela - GLORY TO THE BRAVE PEOPLE
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I suppose it depends on where we get the news.
"While celebrations are taking place in many cities around the world outside Venezuela, the situation inside the country is tense. In the capital, Caracas, long lines have formed outside supermarkets and banks. In Valencia, a large city west of the capital, it's also "crazy," sources told NOS. "Many are trying to stock up on food just in case," they said.
Vicepresident Rodriguez verschijnt in openbaar • Trump deelt foto van gevangen Maduro
De Amerikaanse president Trump claimde in de loop van de ochtend dat zijn land de Venezolaanse president Maduro heeft opgepakt.
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Yes, that was 1984 stuff. Psy-ops, fake invasions, etc.
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If this administration can actually pull this off in a way that avoids large amounts of bloodshed ill 100 percent give them props.In my personal opinion:
It’s so funny how people can comment on something they know so little about and that is being spun by a certain group.
It’s an EXTREMELY positive thing that happened and actually miraculous that it went down so smoothly.
Praying the transition to the proper democracy that the Venezuelan majority voted for is equally smooth.
Bravo to the US!!!
Finally we are showing bravery in the face of tyranny.
The good, faithful, honest people of Venezuela have BEGGED us for years to help/ to intervene.
Maduro WAS NOT the legitimate president.
He refused to move aside despite fewer votes- by a large margin than Edmundo Gonzalez received. Illegal, unethical and criminal.
He is an evil demonic dictator who (along with Chavez) ruined one of the most elegant countries in the world.
NOW THERE IS HOPE FOR FREEDOM AND A RETURN TO THE LEGITIMATE COUNTRY VENEZUELA WAS BEFORE IT WAS CORRUPTED in the late 1980s.
As someone who has been to Venezuela, is very close to many born in Venezuela and has been watching this story for many years and very closely for months- I CAN VOUCH THAT THIS IS AN ANSWER TO PRAYER FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF VENEZUELANS.
If anyone is confused about this GLORIOUS GUTSY thing we just did- study it.
Read about Leoplodo Lopez & Edmundo Gonzalez - both exiled in Madrid.
Look at Maria Corina Machado’s Instagram page and scroll back to voting day when the brave people of this country brought the voting receipts to her- atop a truck.
By all means WATCH THE VIDEO OF HER DAUGHTER ACCEPTING THE NOBEL PRIZE ON HER BEHALF- LISTEN TO HER SPEECH - read about her recent journey to Oslo.
Open your heart to the possibility that this move to arrest Maduro was a godsend to the people who need it desperately- to those who have suffered under unspeakable tyranny and have begged for help.
THIS IS THE DAY OF LIBERTY IN VENEZUELA- praise God!!
Long live Venezuela and the proud people of Venezuela.
Nobody educated on this is naive enough to think this is a move against drugs alone.
The country benefited GREATLY in the past and will benefit GREATLY again when the Venezuelan oil industry is run by legitimate oil companies and not corrupt dictators.
Maria Corina’s official statement below:
María Corina Machado on Maduro's Capture: 'The Time Has Come for Sovereignty'
Venezuelan opposition leader María Corina Machado said that “the time has come for sovereignty” following the capture of Nicolás Maduro.
Gloria al Bravo Puebla Venezuela - GLORY TO THE BRAVE PEOPLE
Im just skeptical it'll end that way
Not all boomers, Marjorie. Not all of us boomers cheer on neocon wars.
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As a Canadian, I agree with this and I am very concerned.
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US government propaganda is that Vice President Rodriguez will help with a peaceful transfer of power from the Venezuelan government to total US control of Venezuela. According to VP Rodriguez, that is 100% false.
"Rodriguez gave a speech that was quite striking. She spoke of Venezuela being united against an aggressor, that Maduro is the only legitimate president of Venezuela, and that the US should release Maduro and his wife, Cilla Flores. These statements don't quite square with what Trump said in his speech, namely that Rodriguez would help with a peaceful transfer.
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It may not be a huge surprise that intervention was made, given the troop buildup of recent weeks and months, but it is quite astonishing that a sitting president has been kidnapped. Criticism is rife among Democrats. Is there a legal basis for this? Why wasn't this shared with Congress? Congress has jurisdiction over declarations of war, and they weren't consulted.
Trump says that if this had been announced, it would undoubtedly have been leaked. Moreover, according to Trump, Maduro is not a legitimate president.
That Trump now says the US will temporarily govern Venezuela is remarkable for a president who was elected on a promise to avoid foreign adventures. Protracted wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have also shown that the US is not adept at overthrowing regimes. Trump is now venturing into that endeavor."
nos.nl
"Rodriguez gave a speech that was quite striking. She spoke of Venezuela being united against an aggressor, that Maduro is the only legitimate president of Venezuela, and that the US should release Maduro and his wife, Cilla Flores. These statements don't quite square with what Trump said in his speech, namely that Rodriguez would help with a peaceful transfer.
...
It may not be a huge surprise that intervention was made, given the troop buildup of recent weeks and months, but it is quite astonishing that a sitting president has been kidnapped. Criticism is rife among Democrats. Is there a legal basis for this? Why wasn't this shared with Congress? Congress has jurisdiction over declarations of war, and they weren't consulted.
Trump says that if this had been announced, it would undoubtedly have been leaked. Moreover, according to Trump, Maduro is not a legitimate president.
That Trump now says the US will temporarily govern Venezuela is remarkable for a president who was elected on a promise to avoid foreign adventures. Protracted wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have also shown that the US is not adept at overthrowing regimes. Trump is now venturing into that endeavor."
Vicepresident Rodriguez verschijnt in openbaar • Trump deelt foto van gevangen Maduro
De Amerikaanse president Trump claimde in de loop van de ochtend dat zijn land de Venezolaanse president Maduro heeft opgepakt.
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"The Maduro regime is “decapitated” but not over, Andrew Latham, a senior Washington fellow at the Institute for Peace and Diplomacy, told NBC News.
“Expecting the entire regime to collapse simply because Maduro has been captured and rendered back to the United States I think is unrealistic,” Latham said.
Trump is “a little over his skis at the moment” in saying that the U.S. will govern the country, he added. Latham said several tiers of leadership remain in place in Venezuela, and those who benefit from the Maduro regime will be fighting to maintain their positions of power."
www.nbcnews.com
“Expecting the entire regime to collapse simply because Maduro has been captured and rendered back to the United States I think is unrealistic,” Latham said.
Trump is “a little over his skis at the moment” in saying that the U.S. will govern the country, he added. Latham said several tiers of leadership remain in place in Venezuela, and those who benefit from the Maduro regime will be fighting to maintain their positions of power."
Live updates: Trump says the U.S. will 'run' Venezuela until a transition can take place
Follow live updates as a series of explosions are heard around Venezuela's capital after a military buildup in the Caribbean, tanker seizures, and Trump pressing President Nicolás Maduro to step down.
www.nbcnews.com
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Sounds like he made her an offer she can't refuse.
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Well, Australia has declared Venezuela to be in a state of emergency. Aussies who are there are being offered consular assistance, and travel to Venezuela is not recommended at this time.
The Australian government has also declared a "state of emergency" in Venezuela and told Australians not to travel to the South American country.
"A state of emergency is currently in place due to military strikes at multiple locations in Venezuela, including military facilities in Caracas and the states of Miranda, Aragua, and La Guaira," Smartraveller Advice said.
"Be prepared to shelter in place. Make sure you have enough supplies, including food, water and medicine. Keep your identity documents, including your passport, handy.
"We continue to advise do not travel to Venezuela. If you're in Venezuela despite our advice, you should consider leaving, if safe to do so."
“Australians in Venezuela who need assistance can contact the 24/7 emergency consular assistance team at +61 2 6261 3305 from anywhere in the world .....”
The Australian government has also declared a "state of emergency" in Venezuela and told Australians not to travel to the South American country.
"A state of emergency is currently in place due to military strikes at multiple locations in Venezuela, including military facilities in Caracas and the states of Miranda, Aragua, and La Guaira," Smartraveller Advice said.
"Be prepared to shelter in place. Make sure you have enough supplies, including food, water and medicine. Keep your identity documents, including your passport, handy.
"We continue to advise do not travel to Venezuela. If you're in Venezuela despite our advice, you should consider leaving, if safe to do so."
“Australians in Venezuela who need assistance can contact the 24/7 emergency consular assistance team at +61 2 6261 3305 from anywhere in the world .....”
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Shackles.
"Maduro has deplaned and is on U.S. soil this evening.
Video from an NBC News helicopter appeared to show Maduro walking off a jet around 5:25 p.m. at an airfield around 50 miles north of Manhattan.
He appeared to wear a gray sweatshirt and shackles as he walked down the stairs of the plane and into a hangar, surrounded by federal agents."
www.nbcnews.com
"Maduro has deplaned and is on U.S. soil this evening.
Video from an NBC News helicopter appeared to show Maduro walking off a jet around 5:25 p.m. at an airfield around 50 miles north of Manhattan.
He appeared to wear a gray sweatshirt and shackles as he walked down the stairs of the plane and into a hangar, surrounded by federal agents."
Live updates: Trump says the U.S. will 'run' Venezuela until a transition can take place
Follow live updates as a series of explosions are heard around Venezuela's capital after a military buildup in the Caribbean, tanker seizures, and Trump pressing President Nicolás Maduro to step down.
www.nbcnews.com
The people who most support Maduro are the ones who stayed in Venezuela. These are the ones Trump's boots on the ground will have to contend with, not the (sincerely IMO) weeping exiles and refugees who are not there, in many cases haven't seen the homeland for a decade or 2.US government propaganda is that Vice President Rodriguez will help with a peaceful transfer of power from the Venezuelan government to total US control of Venezuela. According to VP Rodriguez, that is 100% false.
"Rodriguez gave a speech that was quite striking. She spoke of Venezuela being united against an aggressor, that Maduro is the only legitimate president of Venezuela, and that the US should release Maduro and his wife, Cilla Flores. These statements don't quite square with what Trump said in his speech, namely that Rodriguez would help with a peaceful transfer.
...
It may not be a huge surprise that intervention was made, given the troop buildup of recent weeks and months, but it is quite astonishing that a sitting president has been kidnapped. Criticism is rife among Democrats. Is there a legal basis for this? Why wasn't this shared with Congress? Congress has jurisdiction over declarations of war, and they weren't consulted.
Trump says that if this had been announced, it would undoubtedly have been leaked. Moreover, according to Trump, Maduro is not a legitimate president.
That Trump now says the US will temporarily govern Venezuela is remarkable for a president who was elected on a promise to avoid foreign adventures. Protracted wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have also shown that the US is not adept at overthrowing regimes. Trump is now venturing into that endeavor."
Vicepresident Rodriguez verschijnt in openbaar • Trump deelt foto van gevangen Maduro
De Amerikaanse president Trump claimde in de loop van de ochtend dat zijn land de Venezolaanse president Maduro heeft opgepakt.
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This whole situation feels like a powder keg, one match away from blowing up. Im not knowledgeable on international relations, so im not going to speak on that piece. My big concern is that it'll take one act of violence to occur, leading to the injury or death of a us solider, for a full on invasion leading to countless lives (both American and Venezuelan) being lost.
This feels extremely delicate.
This feels extremely delicate.
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Yep, they have that California Hillside Strangler vibe going on: when two people join forces to successfully engage in criminal enterprises. I got your back if you got mine.
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???
Trump told the New York Post on Saturday. “You know, many Cubans lost their lives last night. … They were protecting Maduro. That was not a good move.”
Trump told the New York Post on Saturday. “You know, many Cubans lost their lives last night. … They were protecting Maduro. That was not a good move.”
5 to ten years and "Even if international access were fully restored tomorrow, it could take years and incredible expense to bring Venezuelan oil production fully back online. Venezuelan state-owned oil and natural gas company PDVSA says its pipelines haven’t been updated in 50 years, and the cost to update the infrastructure to return to peak production levels would cost $58 billion.
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So will the USA occupy Venezuela while citizens are waiting for the pot of gold? Where will money come from in the meantime to rebuild their society?
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So will the USA occupy Venezuela while citizens are waiting for the pot of gold? Where will money come from in the meantime to rebuild their society?
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