Venezuela - President Nicolas Maduro & his wife "captured and flown out of country" by U.S. Army Delta Force during "large scale attack" - Jan 3, 2026

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America’s strongman places a huge Venezuela wager but evokes nightmares of regime change disasters​

"But the swoop against Maduro was a stunner, and not just because the overthrow of a foreign leader is considered an act of war.

Trump’s entire political philosophy was rooted in avoiding any more US shock-and-awe operations to enforce overseas regime change after two decades of quagmires.

What happened to the plan to stop meddling in intractable foreign politics that the US doesn’t understand? Is “America First” over?

I'd venture to suggest that Trump is showing real signs of cognitive decline/dementia. He's almost 80, after all. His first term of office involved a lot of bigly rhetoric but none of it was followed up in any way similar to this.
 
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Venezuela's neighbor is a rising oil star

"Next door to Venezuela is Guyana — a country that recently discovered over 10 billion barrels of oil and is a key emerging player in the international oil industry.

Guyana's oil is lighter than Venezuela's, less polluting, and has lower taxes than Venezuela, Monaldi says.

There's also no national oil company in Guyana, as there is in Venezuela."
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And ultimately, notes Kepes, if it's unclear who is in charge in Venezuela, oil companies will have concerns about the long-term viability of their contracts. "No one's going to start investing on the ground in a place where there's no legal contract and viable permission to operate or if there's concerns about political stability and violence," he says.

So, trump will have to dissolve Venezuela's national oil company to please his big donor oil barons.
 
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I'd venture to suggest that Trump is showing real signs of cognitive decline/dementia. He's almost 80, after all. His first term of office involved a lot of bigly rhetoric but none of it was followed up in any way similar to this.
Yesterday he threatened Mexico, Cuba, and Colombia.
 
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So presumably Maduro is not coming back any time soon. Will the US allow elections? Or will Venezuela's new benevolent overlords (and absolutely not oil thieves) handpick the next government?

Venezuelan VP to temporarily assume presidency

Venezuela's Supreme Court ordered Vice President Delcy Rodriguez to become the country's interim leader, after the United States seized President Nicolas Maduro and whisked him out of the country.

The high court ruled that Ms Rodriguez "assume and exercise, in an acting capacity, all the attributes, duties and powers inherent to the office of President to guarantee administrative continuity and the comprehensive defence of the nation"
I'd be somewhat surprised if the VC returns from Moscow. To have been elected VC, she'd have to be very deeply involved in the Chavez/Maduro regime and therefore herself potentially a target for the US government. Apart from anything else, Moscow has emerged in recent years as the place overthrown dictators tend to bolt to for sanctuary.
 
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I'd be somewhat surprised if the VC returns from Moscow. To have been elected VC, she'd have to be very deeply involved in the Chavez/Maduro regime and therefore herself potentially a target for the US government. Apart from anything else, Moscow has emerged in recent years as the place overthrown dictators tend to bolt to for sanctuary.
Don't forget, trump seized Maduro's wife then indicted her AFTERWARDS.

Moscow might be the only place CR is safe.
 
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These people are disgusting. This is all so grim.
Clearly, the United States can walk into Greenland anytime they like, and there wouldn't be very much the Greenlanders or the Danes could do about it, seeing as the rest of NATO is hardly going to go to war with the USA. But to do so would mean the end of NATO and the western alliance. Not that Mr Trump would care very much about that, I suspect, given that he tends to treat America's allies in much the same way as the Athenians treated the Delian League.
 
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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA V.
NICOLAS MADURO MOROS, DIOSDADO CABELLO RONDON, RAMON RODRIGUEZ CHACIN,
CILIA ADELA FLORES DE MADURO, NICOLAS ERNESTO MADURO GUERRA,
a/k/a "Nicolasito,"
a/k/a "The Prince," and
HECTOR RUSTHENFORD GUERRERO FLORES,
SEALED SUPERSEDING
INDICTMENT
S4 11 Cr. 205 (AKH)
a/k/a "Nifio Guerrero,"

 
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BBC

Has Trump sidelined Machado?​

Responding to "has Trump sidelined Machado"

sure sounds like it.....
Where IS Gonzalez???

She also said that she and Edmundo González, the presidential candidate she had backed when she was barred from running for office, were "ready to enforce our mandate and take power".
 
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"Where should we invade next?"
 
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Colombia's former vice–president claims Nicolas Maduro's second-in-command Delcy Rodriguez 'handed him over' to the US.

Francisco Santos says he is 'absolutely certain' that the woman due to be formally sworn in as Venezuela's new interim leader tomorrow betrayed Nicolas Maduro by handing him over to the US.




I ask myself if maduro is/was not legitimate how can rodriguez be?
 
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We were forcing out their leader because Maduro killed 20, 000 civilians who opposed his regime.

He was forced out because his people were living in misery. The economic suffering began way before we stepped in. IMO
I respect your thoughts regarding the humanitarian reasons for this invasion. But do you TRULY believe that given America's history of takeovers??
The world has been witness to these atrocities for decades, just like we have witnesses attrocities with so many countries over the years.

All the ship attacks were done on the premise of getting at the drug business.

Humanitarianism and attempts at controlling drug trade are soooooooo secondary to the American Imperialism at work.

I am reposting this report that @otto has posted, and will continue to do so. Everyone should print and read this report, and truly digest what we Americans have to accept as our leadership; and our legacy to bear.

Imperialistic control of the Westerm Hemisphere is the chess board here. Certainly not addressing Humanitarian causes....
https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/2025-National-Security-Strategy.pdf
 
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Trump is not planning to steal resources. He wants to set a new government in place that will be our allies. It will be a positive relationship. Not an adversarial one, imo.

We must keep reminding ourselves of how many "sweet words of goodness" have preceded aggressive actions.
We have a past, and that legacy is just continuing before our eyes.

Lets remember how the Iraq invasion was presented to us, and how it REALLY played out: Sweet words.

Former Vice President Dick Cheney repeatedly stated before the 2003 Iraq invasion that U.S. forces would be welcomed as "liberators" by the Iraqi people, expecting a swift and positive reception, but later acknowledged the insurgency was more difficult than anticipated, while still defending the war's necessity by focusing on removing Saddam Hussein and promoting a democratic Iraq. He famously predicted Americans would be greeted as liberators but conceded the insurgency lasted longer than expected, though he maintained the world was better off with Saddam gone
 
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Different political opinions are inevitable in a free society. Not grim at all to me, nor do I find people with other opinions to be "disgusting." Well, most of the time.
Thank you for that.
 
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It took 30 years of the U.S. meddling in the affairs of Venezuela for things to reach that point. Thirty years of trying to damage their economy, cut off supplies, etc. to pressure them into giving up their resources. None of that was necessary. I know because I visited there during the 80s when their economy was healthy and the U.S. wasn’t meddling in their affairs. I still miss being able to buy their coffee. It was the best I’ve ever tasted. Hopefully, they can have a healthy government again, free from outside interference. Perhaps then they can resume coffee production.
The US government has stated that the Venezuelan president was kidnapped based on allegations of illegal drug activity. Rather than present a strategy to establish a new government, the US has instantly pivoted to the pursuit of Venezuelan oil. The Venezuelan people seem hopeful that a democratic government will be established. However, there's a blatant disconnect between kidnapping a president, restoring democracy, and neocolonial opportunism.

This oil goal is in response to established Chinese investments in South American infrastructure, resource development, and trade routes. The US government wants to interfere with established trade relationships between China and South America; to become the middle man between Venezuela assets/ land/ oil and China. The US wants a cut of the profits (per the National Security Strategy).

Assuming that the US establishes the authority to extract oil in Venezuela, and that US government or corporations choose to invest in oil extraction, who will guarantee that the next government will honour those agreements? US government decisions shift each time the government changes from Republican to Democrat, with each political party undoing decisions by the previous government. The goal posts move every four years. Shouldn't it be expected that future Venezuelan governments might be equally fickle - especially when neocolonialism is at the core of the US interest in Venezuelan oil?

"One of the US's stated motives for capturing Maduro was to protect Americans from drugs. But US President Trump also said that the US wants to focus on Venezuela's oil industry.​
The reason for this is a combination of economic control and profitability, as well as geopolitical strategy. This strategy involves curbing Chinese influence. "China has a presence in Venezuela, but it's also the most dominant buyer of Venezuelan oil. America wants to restore that sphere of influence. They don't want rivals like China, but also Russia, to expand their economic and political influence in South America."​
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Exports are low because they have been severely neglected in recent years, partly due to a boycott by the United States," says Van Geuns.​
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Due to the neglect of infrastructure and oilfield management, Venezuela currently controls less than 1 percent of the world's oil production. Most of that currently goes to China. Nevertheless, a US "takeover" of Venezuela's oil production won't be easy.​
"Firstly, there's hardly any knowledge or expertise left in Venezuela ... we're talking about enormous investments, between 50 and 70 billion euros. That could mean huge contracts for American companies. But because there are already companies operating in Venezuela, those contracts must first be terminated."​
Next, new contracts must be drawn up for American oil companies, such as ExxonMobil. "That means they naturally need long-term guarantees for these investments. These are all aspects that still need to be considered. Because who will provide those guarantees? Will it be the Venezuelan government, or the Trump administration itself? That's still entirely up in the air."​


in my humble opinion
 
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Yesterday he threatened Mexico, Cuba, and Colombia.
Yes, I heard this too in his press conference. He clearly cares nothing about the rule of law, so I ask, who is going to prevent him from doing this too? Truly, what internal agency or country can stop this? JMO
 

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