Venezuela - President Nicolas Maduro & his wife "captured and flown out of country" by U.S. Army Delta Force during "large scale attack" - Jan 3, 2026

  • #381
Venezuelan doesn’t have much of a military. They’re not a violent, war-like society. They’re not looking to go to war with anyone, they’re just looking to be left alone to run their own country and economy, controlling their own resources without invasions or economic blockades or other punitive actions from the U.S.
Yes. But there is oil and minerals that attract grifters. The only way to avoid exploitation is a very strong government, and the only way to prevent the government itself from being the exploiters is with division of power, checks and balances. Individuals have to have power with defended civil rights, and effective law and order and justice system that is not the tool of any executive.

We have no business rebuilding Venezuela, imo, but if we were to do so, we are only wasting our time at best, or actually stealing from them at worst, if we are not supporting a system with civil rights, free elections and checks and balances. As someone pointed out above, building a democracy was not even mentioned by the invaders. It is pretty clear to me, IMO, that the purpose is 100% to exploit Venezuela for its resources. As if some toddler thought, "Why should I let Maduro steal from this country instead of me?"

MOO
 
  • #382
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  • #383
This all seems shady. I don’t trust Russia or Putin. They’re objecting the are not an ally of the U.S.

I’m not at all comfortable with them becoming involved in overthrowing a government and military action in the western hemisphere, let alone near our borders. It’s very concerning that Putin appears to be controlling our president and military leaders. They’re not the sharpest people and are easily manipulated.

It's theater, IMO. Putin has turned on the outraged and shocked faucet only so he can turn it off as a bargaining chip.
 
  • #384
Ahoy mateys ☠️

Secretary of State Marco Rubio said on CBS News’ Face the Nation that the US will continue to place pressure on Venezuela by seizing Venezuelan oil shipment boats.

“There’s a quarantine right now in which sanctioned oil shipments, there’s a boat, and that boat is under US sanctions, we go get a court order, we will seize it,” Rubio said. “That remains in place, and that’s a tremendous amount of leverage that will continue to be in place until we see changes that — not just further the national interest of the United States, which is number one — but also that lead to a better future for the people of Venezuela.”

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Trump then said that the US would keep or sell the seized Venezuelan oil.

During Trump’s press conference on Saturday, he said that Venezuela had stolen oil that belongs to the US, despite oil being in Venezuelan territory.

 
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  • #385

Venezuela's neighbor is a rising oil star

"Next door to Venezuela is Guyana — a country that recently discovered over 10 billion barrels of oil and is a key emerging player in the international oil industry.

Guyana's oil is lighter than Venezuela's, less polluting, and has lower taxes than Venezuela, Monaldi says.

There's also no national oil company in Guyana, as there is in Venezuela."
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And ultimately, notes Kepes, if it's unclear who is in charge in Venezuela, oil companies will have concerns about the long-term viability of their contracts. "No one's going to start investing on the ground in a place where there's no legal contract and viable permission to operate or if there's concerns about political stability and violence," he says.


thank you so much for this post.

The statistical information about how low production of oil in Venezuela has been, brings up new questions.

But, I knew NOTHING about Guyana, and their relationship with Venezuela.... clearly Guyana will be part of this US chess game.

from the article:
For years, Venezuela and Guyana have had a territorial dispute that has also been related to oil rights. Last March, Venezuelan vessels entered Guyanese territorial waters approaching offshore oil vessels belonging to ExxonMobil.

"Without a doubt, with a changing regime, Guyana should feel more secure," Monaldi says.
 
  • #386
Putin has turned on the outraged and shocked faucet only so he can turn it off as a bargaining chip.
What bargaining chip? US just served itself to Putin on a golden plate. You lose any right to tell others not to invade sovereign countries the very second you invade one.
 
  • #387
Yes. But there is oil and minerals that attract grifters. The only way to avoid exploitation is a very strong government, and the only way to prevent the government itself from being the exploiters is with division of power, checks and balances. Individuals have to have power with defended civil rights, and effective law and order and justice system that is not the tool of any executive.

We have no business rebuilding Venezuela, imo, but if we were to do so, we are only wasting our time at best, or actually stealing from them at worst, if we are not supporting a system with civil rights, free elections and checks and balances. As someone pointed out above, building a democracy was not even mentioned by the invaders. It is pretty clear to me, IMO, that the purpose is 100% to exploit Venezuela for its resources. As if some toddler thought, "Why should I let Maduro steal from this country instead of me?"

MOO
That is exactly why there are mixed responses to the kidnapped president. A few interpret the removal of the president as the US swooping in to assist with transition to democracy. That is their hope, but they will quickly learn that their hope is misplace.

The US has said nothing about Venezuela having the right to establish a democratic government. Instead, the US declared that the US is the new government in Venezuela, and further declared that their priority is to take a cut of the profits from oil sales to China.

Pure neocolonialism unilaterally enacted by a president who bypassed all political protocols and guardrails to wage war against Venezuela.

in my humble opinion
 
  • #388
It's theater, IMO. Putin has turned on the outraged and shocked faucet only so he can turn it off as a bargaining chip.
And we know what Putin wants. IMO
 
  • #389
Ahoy mateys ☠️

Secretary of State Marco Rubio said on CBS News’ Face the Nation that the US will continue to place pressure on Venezuela by seizing Venezuelan oil shipment boats.

“There’s a quarantine right now in which sanctioned oil shipments, there’s a boat, and that boat is under US sanctions, we go get a court order, we will seize it,” Rubio said. “That remains in place, and that’s a tremendous amount of leverage that will continue to be in place until we see changes that — not just further the national interest of the United States, which is number one — but also that lead to a better future for the people of Venezuela.”

The Trump administration has repeatedly expressed a desire to take control of Venezuela’s vast oil reserves after ousting Maduro.

In December, the US government seized a Venezuelan oil tanker off the coast of Venezuela, considered by some analysts to be an act of piracy. Trump then said that the US would keep or sell the seized Venezuelan oil.

During Trump’s press conference on Saturday, he said that Venezuela had stolen oil that belongs to the US, despite oil being in Venezuelan territory.

What is Rubio saying? He's speaking in disjointed phrases that add up to word salad.

Is he talking about the boat that the US has been chasing around the Caribbean for a couple of weeks?

"Russia has formally asked the United States to stop tracking an oil tanker en route to Venezuela, sources told The New York Times .

The US has been monitoring a tanker for almost two weeks: the Bella I. Just before Christmas, it was the target of a failed American interception attempt in the Caribbean Sea. The Americans had requested boarding, but the crew refused. Boarding was not an option, reportedly due to a lack of manpower.
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In recent days, the crew painted a Russian flag on the side of the ship, hoping to gain Russian protection. They contacted the US Coast Guard to say they were sailing under a Russian flag. Previously, the ship had been sailing under a Panamanian flag. Ships flying the flag of a particular country enjoy protection from that country under international law."

 
  • #390
thank you so much for this post.

The statistical information about how low production of oil in Venezuela has been, brings up new questions.

But, I knew NOTHING about Guyana, and their relationship with Venezuela.... clearly Guyana will be part of this US chess game.

from the article:
For years, Venezuela and Guyana have had a territorial dispute that has also been related to oil rights. Last March, Venezuelan vessels entered Guyanese territorial waters approaching offshore oil vessels belonging to ExxonMobil.

"Without a doubt, with a changing regime, Guyana should feel more secure," Monaldi says.
You're welcome. Imo it makes certain that trump and the oil barons have to do severe damage to venezuela, completely wiping out their nationalized industry or else bypass venezuela and deal with guyana. In any case it will be decades before the american occupation ends. Imo
 
  • #391
The US government has stated that the Venezuelan president was kidnapped based on allegations of illegal drug activity. Rather than present a strategy to establish a new government, the US has instantly pivoted to the pursuit of Venezuelan oil. The Venezuelan people seem hopeful that a democratic government will be established. However, there's a blatant disconnect between kidnapping a president, restoring democracy, and neocolonial opportunism.

This oil goal is in response to established Chinese investments in South American infrastructure, resource development, and trade routes. The US government wants to interfere with established trade relationships between China and South America; to become the middle man between Venezuela assets/ land/ oil and China. The US wants a cut of the profits (per the National Security Strategy).

Assuming that the US establishes the authority to extract oil in Venezuela, and that US government or corporations choose to invest in oil extraction, who will guarantee that the next government will honour those agreements? US government decisions shift each time the government changes from Republican to Democrat, with each political party undoing decisions by the previous government. The goal posts move every four years. Shouldn't it be expected that future Venezuelan governments might be equally fickle - especially when neocolonialism is at the core of the US interest in Venezuelan oil?

"One of the US's stated motives for capturing Maduro was to protect Americans from drugs. But US President Trump also said that the US wants to focus on Venezuela's oil industry.​
The reason for this is a combination of economic control and profitability, as well as geopolitical strategy. This strategy involves curbing Chinese influence. "China has a presence in Venezuela, but it's also the most dominant buyer of Venezuelan oil. America wants to restore that sphere of influence. They don't want rivals like China, but also Russia, to expand their economic and political influence in South America."​
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Exports are low because they have been severely neglected in recent years, partly due to a boycott by the United States," says Van Geuns.​
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Due to the neglect of infrastructure and oilfield management, Venezuela currently controls less than 1 percent of the world's oil production. Most of that currently goes to China. Nevertheless, a US "takeover" of Venezuela's oil production won't be easy.​
"Firstly, there's hardly any knowledge or expertise left in Venezuela ... we're talking about enormous investments, between 50 and 70 billion euros. That could mean huge contracts for American companies. But because there are already companies operating in Venezuela, those contracts must first be terminated."​
Next, new contracts must be drawn up for American oil companies, such as ExxonMobil. "That means they naturally need long-term guarantees for these investments. These are all aspects that still need to be considered. Because who will provide those guarantees? Will it be the Venezuelan government, or the Trump administration itself? That's still entirely up in the air."​


in my humble opinion

i really appreciate you posting the nol.nl publication. Google translate makes it soooo easy peasy to read and understand!
 
  • #392
Canada is taking a strong stance regarding respecting and upholding international law and democracy. The US kidnapping of a foreign leader, and violation of the U.N. Charter, is another example of divergent paths for Canada and the united states.

I'm curious to hear the results of the UN emergency meeting on Monday. The U.S. violated the founding U.N. Charter, which states: All members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state.

"Canada has not recognised the illegitimate regime of [Nicolás] Maduro since it stole the 2018 election," Carney said on social media Saturday evening. "The Canadian government therefore welcomes the opportunity for freedom, democracy, peace, and prosperity for the Venezuelan people.

The prime minister added that Canada has "long-supported a peaceful, negotiated, and Venezuelan-led transition process that respects the democratic will of the Venezuelan people" and it calls on all parties to respect international law.
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"In keeping with our long-standing commitment to upholding the rule of law and democracy, Canada calls on all parties to respect international law and we stand by the people of Venezuela and their desire to live in a peaceful and democratic society," Anand added."​


"The United Nations Security Council is due to meet on Monday after the U.S. attacked Venezuela and deposed its long-serving autocratic President Nicolas Maduro, a move that U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres views as setting "a dangerous precedent."

Colombia, backed by Russia and China, requested the meeting of the 15-member council, diplomats said.
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"This is a colonial war aimed at destroying our republican form of government, freely chosen by our people, and at imposing a puppet government that allows the plundering of our natural resources, including the world’s largest oil reserves," Venezuela's U.N. Ambassador Samuel Moncada wrote to the U.N. Security Council on Saturday."​


in my humble opinion!
 
  • #393
thank you so much for this post.

The statistical information about how low production of oil in Venezuela has been, brings up new questions.

But, I knew NOTHING about Guyana, and their relationship with Venezuela.... clearly Guyana will be part of this US chess game.

from the article:
For years, Venezuela and Guyana have had a territorial dispute that has also been related to oil rights. Last March, Venezuelan vessels entered Guyanese territorial waters approaching offshore oil vessels belonging to ExxonMobil.

"Without a doubt, with a changing regime, Guyana should feel more secure," Monaldi says.

History of the Venezuelan oil industry​

This is all starting to make sense. US doesn't want either China or Iran to have any control over this oil rich country, so we take it for ourselves not by business or trade negotiation, but by force:

"In 2005, PDVSA (Petróleos de Venezuela, S.A.) opened its first office in China, and announced plans to nearly triple its fleet of oil tankers in that region. Chávez had long stated that he would like to sell more Venezuelan oil to China so his country can become more independent of the United States.

Recovery efforts​

Beginning in 2020 Iran began assisting Venezuela with maintenance and repair of refining facilities. As of 2022 Iranian state firms were negotiating to repair Venezuela's largest refinery complex, the Paraguaná Refinery Complex which has a capacity of 955,000 barrels per day."

 
  • #394
Yes, I heard this too in his press conference. He clearly cares nothing about the rule of law, so I ask, who is going to prevent him from doing this too? Truly, what internal agency or country can stop this? JMO
The answer to that should be the War Powers Resolution of 1973, which makes it unlawful for the president to keep forces in theatre for more than 60 days without the specific authorisation of congress. At present it would only take a couple of Republicans to break ranks in the House to deny Mr Trump such a resolution, but given the level of respect for the rule of law that he's shown so far, whether that would work to rein him in is anyone's guess.

 
  • #395

History of the Venezuelan oil industry​

This is all starting to make sense. US doesn't want either China or Iran to have any control over this oil rich country, so we take it for ourselves not by business or trade negotiation, but by force:

"In 2005, PDVSA (Petróleos de Venezuela, S.A.) opened its first office in China, and announced plans to nearly triple its fleet of oil tankers in that region. Chávez had long stated that he would like to sell more Venezuelan oil to China so his country can become more independent of the United States.

Recovery efforts​

Beginning in 2020 Iran began assisting Venezuela with maintenance and repair of refining facilities. As of 2022 Iranian state firms were negotiating to repair Venezuela's largest refinery complex, the Paraguaná Refinery Complex which has a capacity of 955,000 barrels per day."


I’m glad this was done, i know that I don’t want china, Iran or russia just south of usa.
Hoping elections can happen sooner than later so the citizens can live a better life.
 
  • #396
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Section 4(a)(1) requires the President, in the absence of a declaration of war, to notify the Speaker and President Pro Tempore within 48 hours after U.S. Armed Forces are introduced “into hostilities or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances.”

 
  • #397
I’m glad this was done, i know that I don’t want china, Iran or russia just south of usa.
Hoping elections can happen sooner than later so the citizens can live a better life.
How can anyone agree with a country invading another sovereign country and taking control by force? Why isn't the US going into Russia to prevent them from further attacking Ukraine then? Also, you do realize the Chinese are major property investors in the US? They are buying up real estate, but that's not worrisome? JMO
 
  • #398
I’m glad this was done, i know that I don’t want china, Iran or russia just south of usa.
Hoping elections can happen sooner than later so the citizens can live a better life.

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Section 4(a)(1) requires the President, in the absence of a declaration of war, to notify the Speaker and President Pro Tempore within 48 hours after U.S. Armed Forces are introduced “into hostilities or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances.”




I respect this point of view and wish I could share optimism.

I also have no interest in Iran or Russia in South America. Russia is famously unable to get oil out of the ground, so it's credible that this couple continue their interdependence thusly.

Yet, there was no urgency whatsoever such that congress and the international community could not be consulted. That this invasion and kidnapping was done with no attempts of diplomatic measures makes this look, taste and smell like colonialism. Maybe worse than colonialism; it's not the USA as the colonists but a cadre of billionaires.

So, I think you have articulated the most positive possible reasons to consider similar actions, but I disagree that there is even a modicum of evidence that your good intentions were shared by the invaders.

MOO
 
  • #399
Moo....I have been browsing the Chinese and Russian news. China does have investments and citizens there....they are not happy. Trump did not attack China..but he sorta did. Russia I am not sure about their involvement in all this....moo
 
  • #400

History of the Venezuelan oil industry​

This is all starting to make sense. US doesn't want either China or Iran to have any control over this oil rich country, so we take it for ourselves not by business or trade negotiation, but by force:

"In 2005, PDVSA (Petróleos de Venezuela, S.A.) opened its first office in China, and announced plans to nearly triple its fleet of oil tankers in that region. Chávez had long stated that he would like to sell more Venezuelan oil to China so his country can become more independent of the United States.

Recovery efforts​

Beginning in 2020 Iran began assisting Venezuela with maintenance and repair of refining facilities. As of 2022 Iranian state firms were negotiating to repair Venezuela's largest refinery complex, the Paraguaná Refinery Complex which has a capacity of 955,000 barrels per day."

It looks like the US has been sleeping for the past 20 years, and suddenly woke up to discover that Venezuela, Peru, etc. have developed trade relationships with China and other countries. The last minute scrambled brain-wave is to assert the Monroe Doctrine of 1823, and declare authority over the Western Hemisphere - through various means (e.g.: military war, economic war).

"As we deepen our partnerships with countries with whom America presently has strong relations, we must look to expand our network in the region. We want other nations to see us as their partner of first choice, and we will (through various means) discourage their collaboration with others.
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Non-Hemispheric competitors have made major inroads into our Hemisphere, both to disadvantage us economically in the present, and in ways that may harm us strategically in the future. Allowing these incursions without serious pushback is another great American strategic mistake of recent decades.
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The terms of our alliances, and the terms upon which we provide any kind of aid, must be contingent on winding down adversarial outside influence—from control of military installations, ports, and key infrastructure to the purchase of strategic assets broadly defined. Some foreign influence [China] will be hard to reverse, given the political alignments between certain Latin American governments and certain foreign actors.
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Successfully protecting our Hemisphere also requires closer collaboration between the U.S. Government and the American private sector. All our embassies must be aware of major business opportunities in their country, especially major government contracts. Every U.S. Government official that interacts with these countries should understand that part of their job is to help American companies compete and succeed.

The U.S. Government will identify strategic acquisition and investment opportunities for American companies in the region and present these opportunities for assessment by every U.S. Government financing program, including but not limited to those within the Departments of State, War, and Energy; the Small Business Administration; the International Development Finance Corporation; the Export-Import Bank; and the Millennium Challenge Corporation.


Recall the recent US decision to recall 30 ambassadors for termination by the end of January 2026. This is aligned with the National Security Strategy to fill those positions with people who are eager to exploit for acquisition and personal profit.


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