Verdict is in! GUILTY of MURDER ONE - Hung Jury On Penalty Phase #2

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  • #541
Sure could. Absolutely could. I would push the poison button, and if I knew how, I would insert the cath. with ZERO remorse. You bet your boots I would. Don't doubt that, not even for a second.

I no longer see her as a human, nor would I see anyone else as human given the circumstances. I would pull the trigger in a firing squad, too. If the jury rendered the DP.

Right, but that's you. Being DP qualified doesn't mean they share your enthusiasm, it just means that they COULD vote DP.

The jurors didn't lie to anyone or betray anyone. They followed instructions and did their jobs, voting without allowing hatred or sorrow to sway their votes.

Jodi's not going anywhere, she will never be free. This is not that big of a deal! I think those jurors did a bang up job assuring that JA will never get out!

MOO
 
  • #542
I'll go a step further and say that it is likely that Travis had some knowledge of illegal doings on JA's part and that is what he meant when he said that soon everyone would know and would spit in her face.

He caught her stealing or skimming (stealing) or some other easily proved crime and was gonna blow the whistle soon. It wasn't Cancun, or being called a sociopath, IMO, it was something else.


To add: I don't recall who it was, a websleuther had commented that if she cleaned his home, she may have found a file with his passwords, bank accounts, etc. all of his info, and maybe she was going to do something with what she found???
 
  • #543
I don't think the jurors realized if they hung on this phase that a new jury would be picked. Maybe they thought if they couldn't decide the judge would just sentence
LWOP

I just don't understand why juries aren't given all of the information on sentences, even when they specifically ask, they're not told in plain English. It's mystifying.
 
  • #544
Just because some didn't vote the way some of us had hoped doesn't make them shady or crooked.

Enough, please. :(

And respectfully, just because posters aren't reacting in the way you're reacting doesn't make their (respectfully posted) opinions less valuable ...
 
  • #545
Seeing her face when the verdict was read, I will remember forever. SAY WHAT! What about Travis 29 stabs wombs, slit neck from ear to ear, and gun shot to the face. That will not stay with you forever. What a guy! moo
She didn't seem all that upset when the verdict was read. I actually thought that the little emotion we did see from her (the slightly open mouthed gasp), was her telling herself that she should react...especially if the Alexander family had.
 
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  • #547
I think he just wants to talk to Jodi.

So do I. I think I'd be too skeeved out by her lip licking and tree frog fingers but I'd love to think I could get her in a room and FORCE her to spill it....the entire truth.

Crazy, I know. She will never fess up. She is not normal.
 
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  • #549
Wait, what? "We were horrified when we found out that they had declared it a mistrial..."
They didn't know?

Does he think the whole trial was declared a mistrial, not just the penalty deliberations??? It sorta sounded like this to me.
 
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  • #551
The final straw... that this juror wants to reach out to the person he voted to convict of premeditated 1st degree murder to ask her what really happened. It just doesn't get any more bizarre or clueless than that.

The Alexander family needs to hear what this juror said. If the other 3 hold outs believed she was abused too, I hope for their sakes they settle for a LWOP deal if it's available. I just don't see how JM could have made it much clearer who she is, what she's capable of, and how completely Travis Alexander did NOTHING to invite her savagery, much less to deserve it.

I agree completely that the 1st degree conviction was a much closer call than any of us could possibly have imagined. Wow.
 
  • #552
exactly how many interviews has Mr. Z done in the last 24 hrs?

Too many, he needs to shut his pie hole and educate himself on what all he didn't get to hear. Bet he won't be trash talking the public then!

I refrained from making judgements until he did that....and it just went downhill from there!


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  • #553
What's not fair? That it's going to be brutally difficult or that the state has to even go down that road as a result of the jurors being unable to come to a unanimous verdict?

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Now the penalty phase will have to be done all over again with another jury. Bill Zevakos says finding another impartial jury will be almost impossible.

“I just think it's going to be brutally difficult and quite frankly i don't think it's fair.”

http://www.insideedition.com/headlines/6389-jodi-ariass-juror-opens-up-about-trial
 
  • #554
Don't we all want to know what really happened though? We still aren't 100% sure what went down regarding the texts on May 26. We don't have the whole story either. We don't know if she broke into this house that day, or if she called and he let her in. The prosecution doesn't even know what led up to it, we just know it happened.

I think he's just saying he would like to know the truth, as would we all. I highly doubt he really expects her to be honest.

then why say it? is this guy so stupid that he believes she's going to tell HIM?

it just sounds to me like the jury foreman has no appreciation at all for the massive amount of f'd up psycho he looked at across the courtroom for 5 months.
 
  • #555
PHOENIX — The jury foreman in Jodi Arias' trial says the panel just couldn't decide whether the killing of her boyfriend was enough to merit a death a sentence.

William Zervakos tells The Associated Press jurors struggled with what they called a flawed system, explaining Arias wasn't "Jeffrey Dahmer or Charles Manson." They thought it was unfair that 12 average Americans who aren't lawyers had to make such a crucial decision.

The 69-year-old said Friday the entire panel believed the slaying was no doubt brutal. But he says they had to take into account Arias' lack of a criminal history or any previous violent behavior.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/24/arias-jury_n_3330897.html

I don't recall in the jury instructions where it mentioned to compare the defendant to the likes of Jeffrey Dahmar and Charles Manson. :sigh:
 
  • #556
I totally agree with you! She's nothing like the other inmates.
Her Mary Poppins facade is never gonna fly. It's gonna end really ugly for her.


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I don't think JA uses her Mary Poppins facade in jail .. I bet she's completely different out of view of a camera .. JMO.
 
  • #557
I did a bit of research, and it looks like judges in AZ (in most counties) are appointed and then face a retention vote during elections. So, while not as prone to political considerations as judges who are directly elected every 4 years, I think JSS is very mindful that sentencing the Defendant to life with the possibility of parole might be a political disaster for the Judge. (Only 2 judges have been ousted by retention elections since 1974, but this case is huge).

I don't think JSS was biased as much as she was bending over backwards to limit appellate issues (nothing wrong with that). What I do criticize her for is inconsistency in evidentiary rulings, and an absurd number of sidebars. Most of the sidebars were due to Wilmott and Nurmi's lack of knowledge on how to make a proper objection. She allowed this trial to go on twice as long as it should have. She is lucky she only lost 3 jurors.

The sidebars did get frustrating. I think at some point she should have told counsel "no more sidebars unless I hear a legal basis for the objection first." E.g., "objection--relevance," not "objection, your honor, may we approach?"
 
  • #558
BBM I don't think so. JA makes up lies and excuses. This woman is straight up, no holds barred, in your face with what she did and why.

IMO without Jodi's lies & mask.... She's exactly the same.


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  • #559
I found it really strange that the foreman said he didn't want to look at her when they read the guilty verdict, but he did and he "will remember it forever." WTF?? If I had just come to the conclusion that she carried out this unspeakable crime...I would not be caring about how she took the news. I would be looking at the Alexanders and feeling good that I did something to ease their pain. I don't get that?

Did they tell him, no need to concern himself, she wasn't that bothered; she did an interview 20 minutes later saying she wanted death...
 
  • #560
Ok looks like they have Evap & AC..

I've found this website.. (warning it's pro-prison rights site that even addresses Arias Trial watchers happy about conditions at Perryville & of course NBC 12 Phoenix news videos on how horrible AZDOC)

http://azprisonsurvivors.blogspot.com/2012/09/sos-aspc-perryville-conditions-of.html

I have to say, I stopped reading the blog aimed at trialwatchers when the writer excused 'most of the women' in prison as being either mentally ill or having a history of abuse, and argued that they should not be there. Yeah, sure. It's not their fault. Where have I heard this before?:rolleyes:
 
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