Verdict is in! GUILTY of MURDER ONE - Hung Jury On Penalty Phase

[aoibhinn]

i have a question. why DID travis go on that rant?

I would really like to know that also.

I've been looking for written transcripts of the May texts and also Jodi's replies to those texts. I can only find some YouTube videos of Travis side of the conversation. Were Jodi's even entered into evidence?

 

[molly333]

This jury voted YES for premeditation, right?

Yes they did. Be grateful.

It wasn't a slam dunk murder one case, IMO.

 

[raisincharlie]

Yes, she has even learned from Stephen and Samantha's VIS as to examples she can use for herself and examples of real emotion. She has learned from her interviews by the reporters's questions as to what people want her to say. She has learned people like closeness to family, so she has injected that into her story. SO DISGUSTING.

I can't wait to hear from other jurors to override the foreman's comments.

I have to admit it - when I saw the little murderer's interview making the claim she now suffers nightmares about an event she claims to have no memory of I felt like she was mocking Steven in the most cruel way. I also admit that I am glad I was not in the room while she made that statement as the next trial you watch might have been mine for snapping her scrawny neck. She truly is a depraved carcass.

:stormingmad:

 

[dcsmyth1]

Although it would be in my 'entertainment' interest to be able to watch some additional weeks of trial, I really think they should just work out a plea. I would say LWP with no appealing of the verdict. Both sides get something there.

Why LWP? She would serve at least 20 more years, maybe more. With no significant history of violence or criminal behavior in her past (before Travis, of course), there is no apparent reason to think she would be a danger to society at that point. The posters that say she is just a bad seed, an evil killer, and was probably headed out to kill someone else when she was arrested are basing that on very little, IMO. Until she met Travis, she was just a normal person with perhaps a mild personality disorder. Having some jealousy issues, having trouble breaking up and letting go, perhaps telling more lies than the average person--this is not the stuff of a psychopath. She was not a serial killer, or someone who tortures and kills a child for fun.

That said, I also wouldn't have had a big objection to a DP verdict, either.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

A case that proved premeditation.

IMO

What in the world . . . ?

Pre-Meditation was proven and the 12 jurors agreed that there was pre-meditation !

 

[ShadyLady]

When do we get to know the last question the jury asked?

Must be interesting if it was sealed.

 

[Southern_Meadow]

A case that proved premeditation.

IMO

And this one didn't? :waitasec:

If your opinion is that it didn't, I know 12 people who would disagree with you. 12 people who looked at all the evidence through a different lens than we all did. And, 12 people whose opinion is the only one that matters. :twocents:

 

[molly333]

Well, viewing a brutal murder, the grieving fsmily, and 4 months of victim-trashing as entertainment best appreciated with popcorn is certaintly a novel perspective. You don't live in Phoenix, I hope?

My point was, I watched it in the comfort of my home on my own schedule.

The Jury didn't have that luxury.

Plus they gave up four months of their lives.

 

[kscornfed]

I would really like to know that also.

I've been looking for written transcripts of the May texts and also Jodi's replies to those texts. I can only find some YouTube videos of Travis side of the conversation. Were Jodi's even entered into evidence?

NO, they were not. it was like TA was ranting to nobody at all. which even made him sound worse.

there was much, much more to that string of texts than we saw in court, i believe. and we never saw what SHE was saying. why?

it's the same as those emails between TA and the hughes. no context whatsoever and yet they were allowed in.

 

[katydid23]

Yes they did. Be grateful.

It wasn't a slam dunk murder one case, IMO.

The JURY seemed to think so, hence the UNANIMOUS Guilty Verdict.

 

[LAMARQ]

I will say this, can you imagine just from the bit we have seen, how she must have pushed his buttons ? She would drive any normal person to the edge.

I've been wanting to say what I'm going to say for a while. I don't for one minute think he was abusive (physically or verbally), but if he really was I would understand it believing it stemmed from the type of person she is.

With that said, I want to tell you about my ex (the father of my DS6 whom I was never married). He is very quiet and rarely gets angry. He's a sweetheart except when it comes to the woman he was married to before we dated. He was also married before this evil woman and his first wife always said there was no violence, etc. The relationship he had with his 2nd wife was very volitile. And the 2nd wife I believe was always the instigator. I was friends with them both while they were married and witnessed bits. If they disagreed about something she was the type who had to talk it out and end it immediately. He liked to think about things, walk away and calm down. She would follow him around b*tching at him until he would snap and push her away and then the physical fight would start. She's broken glass in picture frames and went at him and threw a childs recliner chair at him. I witnessed her kicking him. She was always throwing something at him during the altercations. He would push her against walls and hold her there. Their kids (combined and step) witnessed a lot.

So I wouldn't be surprised if CMJA drove TA to this in the end. Even the most even keeled can be pushed so far.

I hope this comes across as I'm meaning it to. My ex was never, ever violent with me and I don't remember him ever raising his voice. Such a contrast with the relationship dynamics with his 2nd wife.

 

[Celeskitty]

Yes they did. Be grateful.

It wasn't a slam dunk murder one case, IMO.

Its certainly.. an opinion.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Why not? Just curious.

I honestly believe, for Jodi, the waiting for the DP is even crueler than death itself. When I compare her to Couey, I can't help but to feel his crime was worse. If there is a worst than Jodi....I don't believe she qualifies for the worst punishment possible.

I believe the family of Travis will endure less pain if she's sentenced to LWOP. They will be free, Jodi can no longer hold any power over them.


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[OnWheels]

Dear WSers:

Yesterday I saw a post that mentioned whether or not TA saw himself as a DV victim. I was too exhausted to respond at the time, but would like to now.

I believe the creator of the post hosts a radio show but cannot recall her name.

Could someone please send me a private msg on how to find that post?

TIA

 

[RadarLuv]

BBM - I think perhaps that Travis' family should take some time and think about how some ending would help them overall. Having the luxury I have of Travis not being my family member and a night to sleep on things, LWOP might be the best remedy for their pain. An ending might not be as bad as having to go through this even longer. With this murderer, she isn't going to stop. If a plea could be arranged for LWOP and waiving appeals, this might do more to help than they might think. Closure is just a word, it is never achieved for the brutal murder of anyone, no matter what the end result may be. Closure is just one of those political correctness things which is as imaginary as the Law of Attraction.

I send them my prayers and hope that they can achieve what it is that they need to regain their lives.

Ultimately, this, the trial is only temporary, even if it stretched out for another year. There is NO WAY, absoultely NO WAY that anyone in my family would back down to LWOP. Absolutely none. There would be no question.

Once they move forward with a new jury, they will get the DP they so desire and will know in their hearts that they will outlive her, even if death takes 20 years. Then looking forward to the call that he last appeal failed and watching the catheter inserted and poison flow her veins.

The ultimate punishment. Served.

 

[kscornfed]

When do we get to know the last question the jury asked?

Must be interesting if it was sealed.

i would think since this isn't over, nothing will be unsealed until it is. JMO.

 

[cityslick]

Yes they did. Be grateful.

It wasn't a slam dunk murder one case, IMO.

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Why shouldn't it be a slam dunk when she admitted to doing all of the things she did to him? Even if you take her excuse as absolute truth, it still doesn't absolve her. Self-Defense is just that, not killing someone over and over and then trying to run and hide.

 

[momtective]

Jodi Arias: Dirty Little Secret - Teaser

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIcRfFEBomg&feature=youtu.be

 

[Lilly12]

Was the foreman "The Artist" (#18) after all? It sounds to me like he DID fall for the Arias BS, or at least a lot of it. Emotionally and verbally abused?? Once again, the way the defense cherry-picked the texts and IMs and pushed the REPEAT button so many times seems to have confused the jury (or at least the jury foreman) on the limited use of strong language by Travis overall throughout their relationship. Since they were not privy to the things she had done to Travis precipitating those texts/IMs, they bought the lie. Hearing this, I'm AMAZED that they found her guilty of M1. I'm once again disgusted with the entire judicial process and/or the overwhelming lack of knowledge on the part of the majority of people about the characteristics and, in this case, evilness of some personality-disordered people. I guess some of us just know too much about this and will never be able to relate to people who remain ignorant of sociopaths, narcissists and their ilk.

If he is the artist I wonder if he connected with her because she is an artist.. moo Oh,just thought of this, did the defense team know an artist was on the jury and that was the reason for the Jodi's one woman art show. moo

 

[Dum-Dum Sucker]

I am NOT speaking directly to the juror's opinions, but I get that it's possible that some bought into ALV. Critical thinking isn't particularly valued these days, (to some, maybe many?) it's considered "judgy". Can't carefully evaluate, it's said by someone who has "credentials", so it must be absolutely true.
It drives me nuts, BTW.

:ditto: