verdict watch 5/7/2013 #2

[Pink Panther]

Off topic, but A. Knox is on CNN right now.

Don't they all just look and sound alike by now?

moo

 

[LambChop]

I agree, I remember in the final angry text/email exchange, TA said something like "why don't you just get him to tie you in the woods". Weird thing for him to say if it had been his fantasy. When I heard it, made me think it was her fantasy. And for all we know our little britney spears wanna be (JA) had the school girl fantasy too. He might have just been playing along with her fantasy.

Jmo.

Exactly. I thought the very same thing.

 

[AZWatcher]

This part of a poem seems to fit my mood...

I am all alone
Between failure
And frustration.

What's up? You ok?

 

[FrayedKnot]

I so agree. It's not as though he said she sounded like a five year old. Now that would be truly deviant IMO. Twelve is the cusp of womanhood, and many girls are unfortunately sexually active by that age or are at least starting down that road.

Masturbation and achieving orgasm can start well before puberty. Vouch.


:twocents:

:gasp:

Please tell me you are NOT saying that 12 is fair game. Please. :thud:

 

[4Jacy]

For real! I changed the channel! That show is just awful, awful. Pathetic!

So with you guys re; THIS "SHOW."

 

[polleypockets]

Prisons in my state do not have a limit. You can spend whatever you have in your account. Sheriff Joe is pretty hardcore though rockon so his prisons may have a limit.

don't think they have a limit either - i was reading an article about OJ and how he bought a tv for his cell and has superbowl parties

 

[bettybaby00]

uggggh why can't i post!!!!

 

[InALandFarFarAway]

But what did she tell him she liked? Jodi said herself he would do things for her comfort, such as KY and she mentioned other things. We have no idea what Jodi told Travis prior to this conversation what turns her on. For all we know he was fulfilling HER fantasies by the way he talked to her. We just do not know.

We (generically) are putting too much credence into that tape. Consider the source: JODI. We don't know if the tape was modified, do we? Was it one conversation or more than one combined?

Has she produced anything at all that wasn't somehow distorted to her advantage?

Has she been completely honest about anything while on the stand?

Has she admitted to anything that puts her in a bad light other than lying and that was because she had no choice.

Everything about her and her "evidence" is tainted.

And really, hasn't every single person said something inappropriate? Hasn't everyone said something that if the light of day was shone on it, you'd cringe?

I surely don't want to know what goes through ANYONE'S mind when they're thinking about sex, talking about sex or engaging in sex. No, no, no, no.

I hate that we even had to hear the damned tape.

Considering everything she's submitted, finding one inappropriate comment among thousands means the poor guy was human.

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

Thank you. It will be a year this June 4. He was my soul mate.

June sixth will be a year since whatsuplittlpup died. Best dog I've ever had. I miss him every day.

 

[SuperTmo]

PLEASE PLEASE pray for my Mother. My sister just called and said she had to do CPR because she had another heart attack, we've heard nothing since the paramedics took her. I am 4 states away and there are no more flights tonight - I'm on the first one at 5am in the morning. I feel completely useless and helpless.

I just need a quick prayer. Thank you.

*HUGS* Praying for you and your mama!

 

[fruity]

I'm worried about this jury. they're not being asked to determine sentence. They're being asked to determine "guilty" or not.???

Their questions, for the most part, gave the impression of intelligence. Maybe the stupid one or two just weren't questioning much?

Yes. Having seen that a jury can include 12 stupid people, I wouldn't be surprised if there are one or two on this jury.

moo

Yes, they're being asked to determine guilt, not sentence.

However, if I was on a jury where the person may get the DP if they were found guilty of murder 1, I would be taking my time to go through everything to make absolutely sure that I didn't have an ounce of doubt at all. I could never live with myself if there was a single stone unturned or unexamined. I know I'd be thinking about it every night for a very long time, and if there was anything I thought I'd missed I would never forgive myself.

 

[ElleElle]

BBM~ Yes, she even convinced MM to write pedo letters. Thankfully the jury did not see that part!

I think the '12 year old' comment issue is a perfect illustration of how Jodi used small mistakes against good people. Travis made that comment because she DID sound like a 12 year old in that conversation, when he added '.. having her first orgasm' it was a step too far ... Jodi knows it and jumps on it straight away, she got him to repeat it, and is still using it against him 5 years later. She's also MAGNIFIED it .. it went from a stupid comment made late at night, to a recorded comment, to a broadcasted comment .. the comment is HUGE now. Much bigger than it's original intention, and much bigger than it's real value. But Jodi has found a way to make it almost bigger than life and sully the reputation of a good man, who made a stupid comment 5 years ago.

 

[Karmady]

Prisons in my state do not have a limit. You can spend whatever you have in your account. Sheriff Joe is pretty hardcore though rockon so his prisons may have a limit.

I should know this for sure, but don't. Sheriff Joe, being the county sheriff, wouldn't have any say over what goes on in state prison, would he?

 

[wonders]

Ok, we're going to have to have a smack down over Mark here. :slapfight: Should we draw straws to see who goes first? :floorlaugh:

Ladies, ladies, ladies...No need to fuss about Mark as I am Mrs Eiglarsh, he's already taken. Sorry!!!
:floorlaugh: :floorlaugh: :floorlaugh: :floorlaugh: :floorlaugh: :floorlaugh:

 

[mikeysmommom]

All I said was that as the mother of a little girl that age, I was very disturbed by that comment and if a friend or acquaintance made a comment similar to that in my presence, I would absolutely not allow them around my daughter.

I have read on dozens upon dozens of threads in this very forum cases where a parent had a friend who said similar things, only the parent's ignored it as "no big deal". And when the unthinkable happened, every poster on these boards blamed the parent for allowing an "obvious pervert" access to their child!!!!

I never said Travis was a pedophile and I do not believe that. What I said was that in this day and age, after all of the heartbreaking cases I have read on this very forum, I would be very alarmed by anyone making a statement like that.

It is my right as a parent, in fact my RESPONSIBILITY as a parent to protect my child from anything that raises my hackles.

I choose to err on the side of caution when it comes to my child's safety and I do not deserved to be attacked for that.

Never once have I blamed or sullied this victim. I made a very true and very heartfelt comment about my parental instincts regarding the "12-year-old girl" remark. I was respectful and honest in my post and stand by my feelings regarding it.

I am sorry you interpreted my protectiveness as an attack on Travis.

Thanks, and MOO.

Your right about that comment but you have to remember jodi was sexually active at 14 or maybe it was the age of 12 she started with sex.The first man she lived with was older then her.The second man she lived with was old enough to be her father,it is very possible it was her fantasy to be a 12 yr old virgin and not his.Travis sounds tired not turned on in that call.

 

[StephanieHartPI]

What's up? You ok?

I try not to let trials get to me or life. So deep breath is called for now...this too shall pass.. thank you for asking! really.. now not so alone...

 

[Pink Panther]

Yes, they're being asked to determine guilt, not sentence.

However, if I was on a jury where the person may get the DP if they were found guilty of murder 1, I would be taking my time to go through everything to make absolutely sure that I didn't have an ounce of doubt at all. I could never live with myself if there was a single stone unturned or unexamined. I know I'd be thinking about it every night for a very long time, and if there was anything I thought I'd missed I would never forgive myself.

She's admitted that she killed him. There is evidence that she shot him, stabbed him oh-26 times and sliced his throat from ear to ear. There is abundant evidence that she planned it. What would you be checking for?

moo

 

[Hatfield]

O/T~ Go Vancouver Canucks. They are playing in San Jose tonight against the Sharks. :rocker:

I'm probably one of the few people that loved those old jerseys that I think lasted only 1 season with the big huge "V" on them.

I've always liked the Canucks. Hope they win the cup. They are overdue.

 

[bexlex]

That Jenny lady on DD has a really weird oddly shaped left thumb. What is up with that. She uses the hands and thumb a lot. Maybe she should just tell us what happened. I like her. She seems sincere and smart but I can't stop looking at the thumb.

moo

I bothers me because it looks so "aggressive" or as if she is really tense. I have to look away from the screen when she is on... I also like her, except with the constant interrupting.

 

[HokieHi71]

@EquallyDivided, lots of prayers for your mom, you and family.