***VERDICT WATCH*** Jimmy Rodgers Trial Thread (livestream) Days 1-11 2019.10.10-22

[Arachne 1]

NO, that is not what Dr. Coyne said, "He said it COULD be consistent." and as Ross pointed out, it could have been multiple attackers, and Dr. Coyne agreed!
(I hate it when someone tries to convince me, "that is what you said".....and I know darned well it is something I would never do or say!)
I didn't like this part of the process...where they cite cases, names, numbers and then take something that was ruled on 27 years ago and make it relevant for today. You "court people" talk a different language. I think I should change my moniker to
LegallyBLANK

In closing statements, when they start quoting older cases, one after the other, it sounds like they're
trying to create substance that they don't have; trying to pad their own skeletal case, trying to seem like they did their research, when they can't find more up to date examples that work. Then, they speak faster and faster so you can't catch every thing they say, or get the chance to consider the irrelevancy of it. Finally, they make it so tedious and boring, that your eyes roll into the back of your head, and some jurors may be prone to think, yeah, whatever, this guy has so much info and details supporting his case, that he must be right-- when, in fact, they zero in on one statement made by the witness, and try to make a blanket out of it, instead of presenting the entire facts.

I'm going to have to review Coyne's testimony, because the only time I remember he referred to the same hammer being used was when he was talking about the big wound on the right side of Teresa's head. THAT wound, he believed, was made by 3 blows with the same hammer. Coyne said there was a MINIMUM of 17 wounds. He said the possibility of several attackers existed. He spoke about ball peen hammers, claw hammers, flat ended hammers, and other varieties.

It seems defense attorneys employ the same tactics as their clients: diversion, enhancement, confusion, misdirection, omission, etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc.,.....

 

[beach]

I have a feeling the male attorney who argued their JOA motion is going to argue part of the Defense closing. (isn't it Bizel? or similar?) He was pretty good and I noticed he was the one who responded to Judge Kyle's questions about expected length of time.

 

[Bobbywoo]

Defense attorney said Jimmy Ray Rodgers murder trial in for a”very long afternoon” with final arguments. State plans two-and-a-half hours, defense two.
#rodgerstrial

IMO, for arguments that last that long the lawyers should get the most important stuff out there first because I would imagine some of the jurors eyes would start glazing over an hour into it.

 

[kaen]

I have a feeling the male attorney who argued their JOA motion is going to argue part of the Defense closing. (isn't it Bizel? or similar?) He was pretty good and I noticed he was the one who responded to Judge Kyle's questions about expected length of time.

I think he would be a great choice because I have not really been impressed with the two main defense counsel.

 

[Bobbywoo]

I think he would be a great choice because I have not really been impressed with the two main defense counsel.

Ditto

 

[Oregonmama]

this will go until 6pm EST. So the jury probably wont deliberate until tomorrow am. @beach, correct me if I'm wrong

 

[Oregonmama]

Jaclyn Bevis‏ @jbevis10 48s49 seconds ago
Defense wants circumstantial evidence instruction to be read to jury. State arguing against it, saying it's not a fully circumstantial case, asking if court reads that, it must also read direct evidence. #trialtweets #nbc2courtcoverage #Teresasievers

 

[Oregonmama]

Brooke Shafer‏ @BrookeWINKNews 1m1 minute ago


Judge Bruce Kyle is back in the bench and we are back on the record. The defense making argument over one of the jury instructions. #RodgersTrial @winknews

 

[Oregonmama]

Brooke Shafer‏ @BrookeWINKNews 56s57 seconds ago
The defense is asking for sequestration once jury deliberations start. #RodgersTrial @winknews

 

[beach]

It's all REAL now for JRR. He looks horrible. 12 people are about to decide his fate. Whether he lives or dies. If he lives, whether he EVER walks out as a free man again.

The gravity of it all is setting in for him now. No turning back.

 

[Oregonmama]

Brooke Shafer‏ @BrookeWINKNews 43s44 seconds ago
If jury does not have a verdict by tomorrow, they will be sequestered. Here's the game plan: closing statements today, send jurors home, have them come back tomorrow morning for jury instructions. #RodgersTrial @winknews

 

[Oregonmama]

Michael Braun‏Verified account @MichaelBraunNP 1m1 minute ago


Defense in Rodgers case not waiving sequestering jury, Judge Kyle changes his “game plan”, final arguments today, deliberations Tuesday.

 

[Oregonmama]

Jaclyn Bevis‏ @jbevis10 1m1 minute ago
Closings for the Jimmy Rodgers trial begin by the state: "Why? Why? As we start the end, closing, let's start with Teresa Sievers last word. Why." --Cynthia Ross, ASA #trialtweets #JimmyRodgersontrial #TeresaSievers #NBC2courtcoverage

Brooke Shafer‏ @BrookeWINKNews 28s28 seconds ago


Here we go... state beginning their closing arguments. First thing said, "Why? Why?... let's start with Teresa Sievers' last word, 'why'." Another emotional moment for her family sitting in the second row. #RodgersTrial @winknews

 

[Oregonmama]

Jaclyn Bevis‏ @jbevis10 30s31 seconds ago
Family of Teresa Sievers all here now for closing statements. Sitting with them also is the doctor who found Sievers dead after a call from Mark Sievers. #trialtweets #JimmyRodgersontrial #TeresaSievers #NBC2courtcoverage

 

[TTF14]

Could the defense attorney stop her tap tap tapping on her laptop????

 

[Oregonmama]

Brooke Shafer‏ @BrookeWINKNews 59s60 seconds ago


At the start of closing arguments, the state shows jurors a collage of crime scene photos. In the middle, the hammer investigators say was used to kill #TeresaSievers @winknews #RodgersTrial

 

[Emi]

Jaclyn Bevis@jbevis10
5m

Closings for the Jimmy Rodgers trial begin by the state: "Why? Why? As we start the end, closing, let's start with Teresa Sievers last word. Why." --Cynthia Ross, ASA #trialtweets #JimmyRodgersontrial #TeresaSievers #NBC2courtcoverage

 

[Emi]

Taylor Petras@TaylorPetras2m
CLOSING ARGUMENTS: The state attorney's office describes the investigation into Dr. Teresa Sievers' murder as "good detective legwork."
@winknews

 

[Emi]

Jaclyn Bevis @jbevis10
4m

ASA Ross stepping through the investigation as jurors heard it explained over the last couple weeks by various witnesses, merging them all to tell the story. #trialtweets #JimmyRodgersontrial #TeresaSievers #NBC2courtcoverage

 

[Arachne 1]

Black Towels

Maybe they threw the black towels over the neighbors' surveillance cameras. That's why detectives found nothing! That's what the black towels were for!