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I took the day off and just got here. Glad I don't have to read everything to get caught up. :wink:
VERDICT WATCH - Sentencing of Jodi Arias - Day 40
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I took the day off and just got here. Glad I don't have to read everything to get caught up. :wink:
The Scott Peterson jury deliberated for a week just to convict him. It was another nearly 12 hours to reach consensus on the death penalty. And they weren't starting from scratch like this jury is.
I think it's way too early to draw any conclusions about the length of time deliberated. Something to watch for, imo, is when they dress up. If the jury shows up dressed to the nines when they haven't before, it often means a verdict is close at hand.
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I think it's way too early to draw any conclusions about the length of time deliberated. Something to watch for, imo, is when they dress up. If the jury shows up dressed to the nines when they haven't before, it often means a verdict is close at hand.
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I don't agree at all that Troy was under her spell or however it was put earlier. I think what he was trying to say is she is a creepy psycho. LOL.
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That was not very helpful.
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Does anyone have a link yet for Paul Sanders blog of today?
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Well, this looks encouraging. We have a relatively young jury that most likely won't be entrenched, won't be judgmental about sex/porn, mostly female, some Hispanics, and a trauma nurse whose mother is in the psychological field. Hope she's the forewoman!!
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Wait, where's the poll to vote??? And do I have to pick a date that hasn't been taken already????
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So much for my Friday, if they're not deliberating
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Could we possibly see how many males voted for death or life? Same with females. For Clarity: unmix the charts please!
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Wait, where's the poll to vote??? And do I have to pick a date that hasn't been taken already????
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You can pick any date you think the verdict (or no verdict if they deadlock) is likely to come back.
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I can't do that with this simple poll. Sorry!
ETA: I can make two polls, one for men and one for women? Will everyone vote again?
ETA again: who knows how to make a pivot table that can generate a pie chart? Not me!
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Thanks for reminding me the bar is open + great idea on the Malibu. LOL
I happen to have Malibu and a Quart of Cranapple. Gonna go mix some together and pour over some ice. Cant remember what its called but it mixes well.
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Random thoughts...
Borderlines can cycle through mood swings very quickly - sometimes several within the same day. But someone who is a psychopath is largely feigning the extent of their emotions. For her to cycle so quickly reeks of manipulation to me. Was she looking for attention? Was she trying to unnerve Troy Hayden? Or was she hoping he'd tell the whole world how 'ill' she appears to be?
I think her not allocuting is really a testament to how deviant she is. I'm not entirely certain she cares if she gets death or not - she is convincing herself that her conviction will be overturned on appeal regardless of the verdict. Unfortunately, ever allowing Jodi to testify in a sealed proceeding fed into her narcissism and sense of entitlement. She's certain she should have had the right to allocute in private. She's willing to bet she knows the law better than the judge. Something we see a lot of with psychopathy is them moving the goal post and blaming everyone else. It's the attorney's fault she was convicted, the jury let her down, the judge was wrong in her rulings, and eventually it will be the appeals court made a mistake upholding her conviction.She'll go down as a martyr until her death.
Jodi's perception is that she is a victim. It almost doesn't matter what Sandy did or Travis didn't. She feels justified in killing Travis because he rejected her but is sane enough to realize that reason can't justify his murder to society but is then deluded enough to blame Travis for her having to kill him in the first place. Jodi's psychological makeup probably requires near-worship, almost constant adulation and attention. I think Jodi does believe she was abused - not by being hit though she realizes this is the lie she must tell to the outside world - but because Travis didn't fall to his knees in awe of her. She fought to control him and, instead of complying, behaving, and telling the world how wonderful she was, he instead threatened to expose her true nature to others. Just as we saw with allocution yesterday, it was going to be on her terms or not at all, which she'll then twist to remain the ultimate victim.
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Your thoughts are mine. Exactly. I don't think we will get satisfaction at seeing the verdict live. Either way it goes, it isn't going to resonate with her.
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They probably adjusted their other 'schedules' for work/family during the trial, and so many of them probably work on Fridays, pick up kids on Fridays, etc. Just guessing.
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Thank you
I just saw Greta cover the "verdict watch," and her guest prosecutor thought Juan did a great job and she (the talking head) believes they will vote for death. Especially b/c there are more women, who both agreed are usually more "judgemental"
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I just saw Greta cover the "verdict watch," and her guest prosecutor thought Juan did a great job and she (the talking head) believes they will vote for death. Especially b/c there are more women, who both agreed are usually more "judgemental"
Great news. Greta I think used to be a good lawyer too if I am not mistaken. She usually has a good read on things.
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