Viable suspect: Terry Hobbs #1

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I hate to bring up another unverifiable issue, but how do you guys feel about Stevie's pocket knife being found in Terry's possession? Pam says he carried it with him every day. I think I remember her saying she was surprised the WMPD didn't find it at the scene. Terry says he took it from Stevie before the murders because he didn't think an 8 year old should have one. I can't say for sure who is telling the truth. I would think that Stevie would have whined to Pam at some point if Terry had taken his prized possession away, though. Clearly that isn't proof of anything, just a thought i keep having on the subject.


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I endorse that! The fact that the knife was not with Stevie is a red flag! That it was found in Hobbs' box makes it an even bigger one.
See, I can do short posts!
 
reedus23

Diana Moore went over to the Byers' house when she saw Police there at around, I believe, 8.10pm when JMB was making formal missing person report to R Meek. Mrs |Moore went over to say Michael missing too, Hobbs stayed in his vehicle...then got out as Police leaving...

Hobbs has actually tried to 'bully' JMB into agreeing that they 'met' a lot earlier that night.

Also Hobbs did not get to Catfish until just after 9.00 - about 9.15pm?

Also they hung around waiting for Stevie to show before leaving and going by the Moore's house looking out for him, so Pam might well have been a couple of minutes late for work....

Ideally time-line needs to be done in tabular form - but still a nightmare!!
 
Apparently Terry isn't the first Ex-husband to have a run in with the Hicks.



Despite tight security by Osceola police, the county sheriff's department and the Arkansas State Police, including use of hand-held metal detectors, one of the murder victims' fathers, Steve Branch, 33, was assaulted in the South Mississippi County Courthouse during a court recess.

The same victim's 24-year-old uncle, Jackie Hicks Jr., of Blytheville, struck Branch after the two argued about Branch's interest in caring for the 8-year-old before he was killed.


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"It's not over," said Hicks, a heavy-equipment operator at a Blytheville steel mill. "There will be a time and a place when there are no police around."

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2002/apr/21/november-17-1993-misskelley-to-face-trial-as/
 
So where is Pam's police interview?

I see this one transcribed on the WM3 board for Terry, but none for Pam.

Officer: And, it's my understanding uh from when i was sitting down talking with Pam a couple days ago that, that you and Pam are now divorced.

Terry Hobbs: correct

Officer: You remembe what year you divorced?

Terry Hobbs: 03, i think? I'm just guessing

http://www.wm3blackboard.com/forum/index.php?topic=41.0
 
I hate to bring up another unverifiable issue, but how do you guys feel about Stevie's pocket knife being found in Terry's possession? Pam says he carried it with him every day. I think I remember her saying she was surprised the WMPD didn't find it at the scene. Terry says he took it from Stevie before the murders because he didn't think an 8 year old should have one. I can't say for sure who is telling the truth. I would think that Stevie would have whined to Pam at some point if Terry had taken his prized possession away, though. Clearly that isn't proof of anything, just a thought i keep having on the subject.


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First, it does give me pause for consideration. Second, I believe Hobbs has given contradicting stories about the knife that would concern me too
 
So where is Pam's police interview?

I see this one transcribed on the WM3 board for Terry, but none for Pam.



http://www.wm3blackboard.com/forum/index.php?topic=41.0

Pam was not interviewed by the police except during the investigation on May 5 and 6 of 1993. To my knowledge, none of the mothers were. The only parent actually interviewed as a suspect was JMB. However, as a result of the Pasdar lawsuit, TH was interviewed by the [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFXsWO9OBMg]police[/ame] and deposed by the Pasdar attorneys because he filed suit against Natalie Maines Pasdar and the Dixie Chicks for defamation of character. As part of those proceedings, Pam gave a declaration . AFAIK, that is the only legal statement we have from Pam.

Was further testing done to rule the fibers found in Hobbs' knife in or out in terms of matching the shoelaces?

Unfortunately, the further testing promised in the link you provided has not been made public to my knowledge. The preliminary testing, to which you provided a link, indicates that the fibers in the Hobbs knife cannot be distinguished from the fibers in the shoelace binding Michael Moore. I'm confident that the testing was done and is part of the information yet to be released in this case. I'm equally confident that Ellington's office would not release the fiber report if it proved a match and also that they would release the testing had it proved that the lace binding Michael were not a match to the fibers in the Hobbs knife. Since the defense turned over the report to Ellington (per his request in 2011), it's really in Ellington's hands.



I'd also like to add that I believe that the reason that Pam and her family didn't make their concerns public prior to 2007 is that they trusted the judicial system and trusted that the correct people were incarcerated for the crime. They are simple people, not wont to disbelief in authorities. I would imagine that their attitude toward the police has changed as a result of this case, however.

It was only when the mtDNA revelations were made public that their initial suspicions of TH resurfaced. IMO, this isn't that strange. I don't imagine that I'd want to believe that the man I lived with for eleven years after my son's murder was his killer. I imagine it was very hard for Pam to eventually make that admission. However, based on new information uncovered after the trials (the mtDNA, etc.), she had no choice but to suspect TH. Why the wmpd didn't is beyond me!
 
So where is Pam's police interview?

I see this one transcribed on the WM3 board for Terry, but none for Pam.



http://www.wm3blackboard.com/forum/index.php?topic=41.0


I've answered my own question.

Yes, Pam was interviewed by the police and it's transcribed here:
June 19, 2007 Pam Hobbs interview with WMPD
http://callahan.8k.com/pdf/pam_hobbs_interview.pdf


sister Jo Lynn McCaughey interviewed June 19, 2007 with WMPD
http://callahan.8k.com/wm3/jl_mccaughey_interview.html


Terry Hobbs interview WMPD June 21, 2007 WMPD
http://callahan.8k.com/pdf/t_hobbs_interview.pdf


FYI I also found information on TrueRomance, she was Misskelleys love interest while he was incarcerated. Will be posting it soon.
 
Its always bothered me the fact that TH took Steve's possessions and put them in his vehicle, anyone have a reasonable explanation for that? its really quite upsetting, just for that he deserves an uppercut
 
reedus23

Diana Moore went over to the Byers' house when she saw Police there at around, I believe, 8.10pm when JMB was making formal missing person report to R Meek. Mrs |Moore went over to say Michael missing too, Hobbs stayed in his vehicle...then got out as Police leaving...

Hobbs has actually tried to 'bully' JMB into agreeing that they 'met' a lot earlier that night.

Also Hobbs did not get to Catfish until just after 9.00 - about 9.15pm?

Also they hung around waiting for Stevie to show before leaving and going by the Moore's house looking out for him, so Pam might well have been a couple of minutes late for work....

Ideally time-line needs to be done in tabular form - but still a nightmare!!

Yeah, it was a nightmare and I was really just dumping my notes on here. If I find time, I'll try to get it into a more readable form. Just so you know, the times I put in there were ONLY from Hobbs, Jacoby and Pam. I haven't gone back and tried to rectify their times with such things as police reports or other witness statements. I also stopped dumping my notes at the time he says he picked up Pam. What I find interesting is that just his own words, his timeline is impossible. And then his good friend's version is in contradiction to his own words. So even just considering those 2 people's versions, it raises red flags.
 
Posting about this because Scarlett mentioned it in another thread. How many people saw Hobbs allegedly doing all kinds of laundry the night of the murders? Were the witnesses to this all members of Pam's family? Did anybody mention this prior to 2007? Yet another thing to add to the hinky list if it's true.


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AFAIK, JoLynn was the only witness to the laundry incident. She's Pam's sister, if that's not common knowledge. I'm not sure who, other than family members, would be in the home in that situation and at that time, however.
 
In the time line attempt above, Jacoby conveys that he saw Stevie riding past behind Terry Hobbs as he, Jacoby, opened the door to let him in, not actually 'with' him.


http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=110864638

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I've seen that said before but I didn't see it in his police interview June 21, 2007. I thought maybe it was just something someone had said (not Jacoby). Is this where it is?
http://callahan.8k.com/wm3/d_jacoby_int.html
 
The following is from Jacoby's declaration in the Pasdar suit:

6. On May 5, 1993, I worked at the Memphis Ice Cream Company. I got home from work at approximately 4:30 PM on that day. Sometime between 5 PM and 5:30 PM on May 5, 1993 (it could have been as late as 6 PM, but I believe it was between 5 and 5:30 PM), Terry Hobbs came over to my house.

7. I believe I saw Terry's step-son, Stevie Branch, ride by on his bicycle in the street in front of my house. I also believe I saw two other little boys with Stevie. One of the other boys who went by the front of my house was on a bicycle and the other boy was on a skateboard.

8. Terry and Amanda came inside my house. Amanda played with toys, and Terry and I sat down and played guitars for up to one hour. At some point while Terry and I were playing guitars, I asked, "Where's Stevie?" because Stevie usually came over to my house with Terry and Amanda (and also Pam Hobbs when she came over). Terry responded that Stevie was riding his bike.


Maybe I'm misinterpreting, but it appears to me that DJ is saying he saw Steven and two friends riding down the street in front of his house when TH and Amanda came over. It seems that he is telling a sequential story here, and that paragraph 7 happened right after paragraph 6 and paragraph 8 happened right after paragraph 7. Of course, it seems strange that DJ would ask TH where Steven was when he (DJ) had just seen him (Steven), but there's so many strange things about this case, what's one more?
 
AFAIK, JoLynn was the only witness to the laundry incident. She's Pam's sister, if that's not common knowledge. I'm not sure who, other than family members, would be in the home in that situation and at that time, however.

Thank you. And I can't remember, is Jolynn the same one who said she saw Terry with the laces missing from his sneaks? I'm starting to get some if these things mixed up. As far as who else would be in the home, I was hoping that maybe there were some friends over helping out or just giving support. I'm not saying Pam's sister is lying, but it would be great if these things could be confirmed by someone outside the Hicks family.


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The following is from Jacoby's declaration in the Pasdar suit:

6. On May 5, 1993, I worked at the Memphis Ice Cream Company. I got home from work at approximately 4:30 PM on that day. Sometime between 5 PM and 5:30 PM on May 5, 1993 (it could have been as late as 6 PM, but I believe it was between 5 and 5:30 PM), Terry Hobbs came over to my house.

7. I believe I saw Terry's step-son, Stevie Branch, ride by on his bicycle in the street in front of my house. I also believe I saw two other little boys with Stevie. One of the other boys who went by the front of my house was on a bicycle and the other boy was on a skateboard.

8. Terry and Amanda came inside my house. Amanda played with toys, and Terry and I sat down and played guitars for up to one hour. At some point while Terry and I were playing guitars, I asked, "Where's Stevie?" because Stevie usually came over to my house with Terry and Amanda (and also Pam Hobbs when she came over). Terry responded that Stevie was riding his bike.


Maybe I'm misinterpreting, but it appears to me that DJ is saying he saw Steven and two friends riding down the street in front of his house when TH and Amanda came over. It seems that he is telling a sequential story here, and that paragraph 7 happened right after paragraph 6 and paragraph 8 happened right after paragraph 7. Of course, it seems strange that DJ would ask TH where Steven was when he (DJ) had just seen him (Steven), but there's so many strange things about this case, what's one more?

I don't get that interpretation from reading that. It could have been gossip from various sources.
 
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