VICTIM - Mickey Shunick, 21, of Lafayette, LA (Theories)

[Mr. Noatak]

My opinions only, no facts here:

This is a safety tip regarding my personal survival strategy (even though I am a male and a former boxer). Whether day or night, when leaving a store to return to my vehicle I stop 50 to 100 feet away from my rig and check to see if anyone is loitering nearby.

If any of you see such behavior and feel uncomfortable about it, return to the store and notify the manager that a stranger is loitering by your vehicle. If everybody followed this protocol, it would save lives.

 

[kgeaux]

My opinions only, no facts here:

This is a safety tip regarding my personal survival strategy (even though I am a male and a former boxer). Whether day or night, when leaving a store to return to my vehicle I stop 50 to 100 feet away from my rig and check to see if anyone is loitering nearby.

If any of you see such behavior and feel uncomfortable about it, return to the store and notify the manager that a stranger is loitering by your vehicle. If everybody followed this protocol, it would save lives.

Another tip: if your keys come with a fob that has an alarm button, keep your finger on that button as you approach your car. If I press that button, it causes my horn to beep, my lights to flash and an EAR PIERCING alarm to sound!

Press the button and RUN back toward an area with people.

I'd rather press that button and embarrass myself a hundred times, than to not press it and become a victim.

Another tip: NEVER go with a bad guy.....he says get in the car or I'll shoot, say : go ahead and shoot. He probably wont do it if there are people nearby, and whatever he has planned for you if he can get you to a secluded area is MUCH WORSE.

 

[danzn16]

How bought get your concealed carry license (if youre able) and shoot anyone that tries to harm you. And take self defense classes. Its great to be aware and throne should be but even that fails sometimes.

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[concentric]

Before this happened to Mickey, I was very carefree. No, naive, would be a better description. I always had the attitude of "oh that would never happen to me!" Most of us grew up during a time that our doors were left unlocked day and night and people were free to roam around without the dangers we face today. In the past few months, I have become WAY more aware of my surroundings and A LOT more cautious of others. I feel as though people like BSL have taken away our "southern" way of life and upbringing. We are no longer able to have the attitude of "no one is a stranger." It's very sad that we may soon have to forego our Southern Hospitality just to stay safe in such a unique and wonderful part of our country.

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Well, before this happened to Mickey, it has happened to other young women, many years ago. People were expressing similar thoughts online.

It's a disgusting and disheartening truth that not much has been done in terms of prevention.

 

[Passnthru]

Wow. I'm shaking, it went down with Mickey and Brandon just as I said all along. I'm shaking so hard I gotta catch my breath

 

[Passnthru]

He hit her with his truck right where I thought, followed her down St. Landry then struck her between Dean and Colisium Rd. the collision through Mickey off her bike then he got her in his truck then Brandon and a gun and a knife and they had an altercation and mickey grabbed her cell phone and tried to call 911, the got her phone then she sprayed him with Maze and tried to fight him more at which point he stabbed her several times and she was motionless then he drove with her motionless body to a cane field where he planned to dump her body then Mickey regained concious and jumped up and got the knife and stabbed him numerous times then he shot her in the head. I'm sick

 

[ktgirl]

BSL's confession of events leave out that fact IMO that he almost definitely sexually assaulted both Lisa and Mickey.

First, I have my own doubts as to Lisa going to "stay" with him on her volition - if he didn't force her to go with him, I feel like when she went willingly she didn't think she was going to be staying with him for days....I think he held her against her will for several days (and if he went to work, etc, what did he do with her during those days to prevent her escape?) even though she pleaded with him that she missed her kids. At one point while he was asleep, she was able to try to get his keys/wallet when she left (not just for $ but maybe to have his ID to show police?), he woke up, saw it and killed her. IMO, it's highly likely he was keeping Lisa to sexually abuse & control her; I don't think she had any idea what she was getting into or ever "stayed" with him willingly.

I hate to say it or think about it, but I also doubt he didn't rape Mickey. I think it's highly likely he raped her during/before/right after stabbing her the four times in his truck (based on what I've read about sexual preadtor serial killers).

When Mickey "jumped up" (I agree with some WSers that is a hinky way of wording it) and attacked him, he may have been raping her or attempting to rape her again (even if he thought she was dead - some serial killers such as Ted Bundy have admitted to repeatedly having sex with the corpses). He didn't have the knife in his hands because he thought she was dead. Maybe it was in the center console or on the floor of thr truck. She managed to grab it somehow and start stabbing (maybe this would explain any cuts/slices on/near his back) if she slipped her hand down below & grabbed the knife out of his eyesight while he was on top of her and then she stabbed him in the back/side/etc - that would be kind of a sneal attack and might seem to work better than brandishing the knife in his face. I hope this makes sense.

I am sorry to write these awful things but I do not for one second believe a tier three RSO didn't rape both of these women. He just hates being labeled a sex offender, so he won't admit it.

 

[Foxfire]

BSL's confession of events leave out that fact IMO that he almost definitely sexually assaulted both Lisa and Mickey.

First, I have my own doubts as to Lisa going to "stay" with him on her volition - if he didn't force her to go with him, I feel like when she went willingly she didn't think she was going to be staying with him for days....I think he held her against her will for several days (and if he went to work, etc, what did he do with her during those days to prevent her escape?) even though she pleaded with him that she missed her kids. At one point while he was asleep, she was able to try to get his keys/wallet when she left (not just for $ but maybe to have his ID to show police?), he woke up, saw it and killed her. IMO, it's highly likely he was keeping Lisa to sexually abuse & control her; I don't think she had any idea what she was getting into or ever "stayed" with him willingly.

I hate to say it or think about it, but I also doubt he didn't rape Mickey. I think it's highly likely he raped her during/before/right after stabbing her the four times in his truck (based on what I've read about sexual preadtor serial killers).

When Mickey "jumped up" (I agree with some WSers that is a hinky way of wording it) and attacked him, he may have been raping her or attempting to rape her again (even if he thought she was dead - some serial killers such as Ted Bundy have admitted to repeatedly having sex with the corpses). He didn't have the knife in his hands because he thought she was dead. Maybe it was in the center console or on the floor of thr truck. She managed to grab it somehow and start stabbing (maybe this would explain any cuts/slices on/near his back) if she slipped her hand down below & grabbed the knife out of his eyesight while he was on top of her and then she stabbed him in the back/side/etc - that would be kind of a sneal attack and might seem to work better than brandishing the knife in his face. I hope this makes sense.

I am sorry to write these awful things but I do not for one second believe a tier three RSO didn't rape both of these women. He just hates being labeled a sex offender, so he won't admit it.

ktgirl, we will not the know the specifics until the forensics report is complete, if ever.
The autopsy report was very vague. Normally it is several pages with specific info & drawings.
All indicators point to BSL having escalated in his ritualistic murders. Mickey's attack may have circumvented his original plans. Time will tell...

BSL, obviously has a narcissistic personality & is very deflective. Just have to read in between the lines...

 

[ktgirl]

I was actually wondering why he didn't leave her in the cane field where he initially brought her body to dispose of it?? He assumed at that point she was dead according to his statement. She regains conscious while in the cane field, he shoots her, then decides at that point to drive her to a different location :waitasec:. I guess in the end it didn't really matter where he left her but it seems like quite a risk he was taking to continue driving around with her body. I get the impression he's not too bright for some reason.

This is a very good question. My guess is his injuries from the fight in the cane field were pretty bad and he thought of himself first, so to speak. He immediately wanted to get home to nurse his wounds and then he'd deal with Mickey. Me, me, me. I'm hurt, I have to immediately take care of it. He also may not have been physically able to take her body out of the car at that moment.

I know I just read the confession a little while ago, but didn't it state he went home with her body in the car, tended to his wounds and attempted to clean the car? Does that mean he tried to clean the car with her body still in it? That seems really dumb (how do you clean a truck without taking the dead, bloody body out?) Oe maybe he tried to wipe his DNA off Mickey's body in the truck at the home before disposing of it?

I'm probably just confused about when he cleaned the truck. Surely it was after he had put her by the cemetery and covered the body with foliage.

 

[heidisams]

He hit her with his truck right where I thought, followed her down St. Landry then struck her between Dean and Colisium Rd. the collision through Mickey off her bike then he got her in his truck then Brandon and a gun and a knife and they had an altercation and mickey grabbed her cell phone and tried to call 911, the got her phone then she sprayed him with Maze and tried to fight him more at which point he stabbed her several times and she was motionless then he drove with her motionless body to a cane field where he planned to dump her body then Mickey regained concious and jumped up and got the knife and stabbed him numerous times then he shot her in the head. I'm sick

Are you saying that above was your theory all along? I read back through your posts and couldn't find anything. Just curious, I love it when we get a poster who got it right...

 

[gngr~snap]

Am I reading it wrong? IMO she was in the truck (that was in the cane field)
He shot her inside his truck and then drove home with her...

He "intended to drag her into field"

http://www.katc.com/files/lavergne statement.pdf

I can't highlight copy and paste IT'S sideways!


So he never did?

 

[HouDat]

Are you saying that above was your theory all along? I read back through your posts and couldn't find anything. Just curious, I love it when we get a poster who got it right...

I think that poster was saying that their speculation of the actual area of the attack/abduction (in that desolate space between Dean and Coliseum, where many of us conjectured as the most likely place) was their theory.

 

[danzn16]

Am I reading it wrong? IMO she was in the truck (that was in the cane field)
He shot her inside his truck and then drove home with her...

He "intended to drag her into field"

http://www.katc.com/files/lavergne statement.pdf

I can't highlight copy and paste IT'S sideways!
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So he never did?

you'd think if he was planning on dumping her in the cane field that he would have done so even after this "jumping up" and stabbing event? but maybe he didn't want his DNA on her so that's why he took her to his home and put her at the cemetery? would like reasoning on that.

 

[heidisams]

you'd think if he was planning on dumping her in the cane field that he would have done so even after this "jumping up" and stabbing event? but maybe he didn't want his DNA on her so that's why he took her to his home and put her at the cemetery? would like reasoning on that.

This was the 1st thing I thought when I read it... I was wondering if it's because during that final struggle/stabbing he bled heavily, or enough to leave his DNA on her... And because of this, he felt he had to come up with plan b, which ultimately was to bury her. I also wondered if maybe he feared the bullet could somehow be linked back to him, but I doubt it was registered to him due to RSO status??? Maybe he took it from a family member... Or maybe he was in a lot of pain and/or caught so off guard he just got out of there, and headed home to take care of himself and to come up with a plan to get himself out of the mess he was in... Cya mode.

All jmo.

 

[danzn16]

This was the 1st thing I thought when I read it... I was wondering if it's because during that final struggle/stabbing he bled heavily, or enough to leave his DNA on her... And because of this, he felt he had to come up with plan b, which ultimately was to bury her. I also wondered if maybe he feared the bullet could somehow be linked back to him, but I doubt it was registered to him due to RSO status??? Maybe he took it from a family member... Or maybe he was in a lot of pain and/or caught so off guard he just got out of there, and headed home to take care of himself and to come up with a plan to get himself out of the mess he was in... Cya mode.

All jmo.

I agree. And I wonder why LE are calling his injuries near life threatening. I've never seen near life threatening injuries that didn't require medical attention immediately to not become life threatening. He did go till the next night. How is that so dangerous of injuries? I am SO glad she really hurt him though. I wish we could have more detail on the injuries. But maybe I just want that since I'm in the medical field.

 

[HouDat]

I agree. And I wonder why LE are calling his injuries near life threatening. I've never seen near life threatening injuries that didn't require medical attention immediately to not become life threatening. He did go till the next night. How is that so dangerous of injuries? I am SO glad she really hurt him though. I wish we could have more detail on the injuries. But maybe I just want that since I'm in the medical field.

I think maybe their line of thinking was something like "well, an inch away from the jugular is what we consider a 'life threatening' injury".

 

[hollyblue]

Another tip: if your keys come with a fob that has an alarm button, keep your finger on that button as you approach your car. If I press that button, it causes my horn to beep, my lights to flash and an EAR PIERCING alarm to sound!

Press the button and RUN back toward an area with people.

I'd rather press that button and embarrass myself a hundred times, than to not press it and become a victim.

Another tip: NEVER go with a bad guy.....he says get in the car or I'll shoot, say : go ahead and shoot. He probably wont do it if there are people nearby, and whatever he has planned for you if he can get you to a secluded area is MUCH WORSE.

I live in the city, but it may be the same elsewhere. No one pays attention to those alarms going off except to note that's it's annoying. Your better without that noise, and to run screaming FIRE or HELP. JMO

 

[hollyblue]

This was the 1st thing I thought when I read it... I was wondering if it's because during that final struggle/stabbing he bled heavily, or enough to leave his DNA on her... And because of this, he felt he had to come up with plan b, which ultimately was to bury her. I also wondered if maybe he feared the bullet could somehow be linked back to him, but I doubt it was registered to him due to RSO status??? Maybe he took it from a family member... Or maybe he was in a lot of pain and/or caught so off guard he just got out of there, and headed home to take care of himself and to come up with a plan to get himself out of the mess he was in... Cya mode.

All jmo.

Hate saying this, but if he shot her in the head, there would be LOTS of blood in that truck.

***** I can't believe they loaded that document sideways!!!!

 

[gngr~snap]

Hate saying this, but if he shot her in the head, there would be LOTS of blood in that truck.

***** I can't believe they loaded that document sideways!!!!

Yep! In all kinds of nooks and crannies... I suspected this after finding out he burned the truck! I tried to reason a stabbing only... but I suspected a gun was used.

Sideways document... I need a masseuse! I have re-read it 5 times!

GOT THE LAPTOP out.... ahhh that's better!

 

[danzn16]

I think maybe their line of thinking was something like "well, an inch away from the jugular is what we consider a 'life threatening' injury".

I guess I don't understand that logic because it's not. It's like throwing a match in gasoline or not in gasoline. One will explode and one won't. I know that's not a good analogy but only one my tired brain can thing of right now! Not cutting a main artery is like cutting your toe, hurts, but you're not going to die from it. I'm just wondering if those chest wounds could have been more serious since those we did not get to see...