Virgin Mary statue cries blood: Scaramento, CA

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Good aim with paint dart gun (red, of course).
 
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Rocky said:
I'm curious, do atheist believe in ghosts or spirits...


or is it pretty much ashes to ashes dust to dust?
Nope, I don't believe in ghosts or spirits.

I do believe that there is probably intelligent life elsewhere in the universe. I think statistically it's highly likely given the infinite number of planets out there.

Edited to add:

My opinions are solely my own. I can not speak for all atheists. Personally, I have no problem with prayer in schools, In God We Trust, or One Nation Under God. I like tradition. The hard core fanatic atheists annoy me as much as fanatical religious people.
 
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Linda7NJ said:
Nope, I don't believe in ghosts or spirits.

I do believe that there is probably intelligent life elsewhere in the universe. I think statistically it's highly likely given the infinite number of planets out there.

Well, I was a very Scientific person, an engineer that could explain everything...

and then one day I prayed for help in finding Danielle van Dam, my daughter's best friend...

That's when the dreams and visions began...

Have you ever had a dream that everyone spoke foreign languages? Somehow I understood what they were saying...

answers to missing children's cases...
messages to be delivered to religions other than mine...
Deliver the message and watch a Disaster strike right behind it...

at first, I could shrug it off, but after my last message for Islam, a warning to turn away from violence and find peace or else...

30 minutes later an earthquake ripped through Pakistan in a majority extremist area...


now before you stop reading let me share something else with you...

once you understand there are spirits, you will also learn they can travel the galaxy in moments...

once you understand there is a Heaven, you will learn we aren't the only planet that believes in God.

I have been shown how to take a Toyota Hybrid and modify it to over 500 miles per gallon. I was getting ready to work with their development team, but truthfully, I'm a GM kinda guy, and if I am going to give this technology to anyone, it is going to be GM. I started at Buick Cadillac a little over a month ago, I am learning their vehicles and operations...

and I'm getting ready to hand them what they need, what we all need...

Sorry Toyota, but I'm from the midwest... You've done a great thing showing the world that the oil companies can't stop progress. Cars have been guzzling gas since the start, and the rate we are burning up oil it will last another 70 years... and then what?

The time to make changes that will improve the environment and insure we have oil for the next couple hundred years is now.

I would love to drop by hanger 51 to grab a few spare parts, but I can start it from scratch also... I guess that's why my path led me into engineering

so you see, I can do more than just step into my dreams to talk with Buddha and Muhammed, I am hearing the whispers of Doves about messages God wants heard to bring peace to the world.

I also have the council from other planets that have already been through the struggle we are experiencing.

Islam already understands my messages from God are not to be taken lightly... Three disasters of Biblical proportions have made it quite clear...


You are a very special athiest open to letting others believe what they like, you don't cover your ears, you really listen...

and that's a good thing...
 
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rocky, that's a really good question and thank you for asking it.
really it's just like with everyone else-- all atheists/agnostics/freethinkers/skeptics, etc. have their own individual beliefs on things... just like all different sects of all different religions have different beliefs, all the way down to the individual.

i for one believe in some kind of "spirit world" - i think it makes perfect sense that there is an unseen energy field that is beyond, or parallel to, the material world we can see & experience with our physical senses. plus, SO MANY people (including people i know) claim to have seen ghosts & felt the presence of spirits, and it seems to be a universal thing... and it's hard for me to believe that when your body dies whatever energy inside you just evaporates. however, i have no idea where it goes and won't know until i take that step, so i'm not even going to guess about it. i don't even think humans can comprehend it all until we go through it ourselves-- but maybe near-death experiences give us a glimpse at least. i would LIKE to think we see our loved ones on the "other side".... but i don't claim to understand what exactly that "other side" is... nor do i believe in "heaven and hell" in the religious sense.

anyway.... it's going to be really cool to find out someday! ;)
 
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i also do not have a huge problem with "in god we trust" and the pledge of alliegiance... as long as it stays the way it used to be, which is "god" in a very vague and non-threatening sense. it's almost like saying "higher power" or better yet, "our collective consciousness".

and i have always had no problem with prayer in schools IF a student wants to bow their head IN SILENCE and pray... we used to have a moment of silence after saying the pledge and everyone seemed to feel very comfortable with that, and it did not cause a school/church conflict... there was no pressure on anyone.

but saying an out-loud prayer so that some students who do not wish to participate can feel uncomfortable...??? and so, some students will ask, "well, which god are you referring to?? your god, or my god, or their god?" everybody seems to have their own version of god (or, none at all)- and most religions spend way too much time arguing over whose is the "right" one.
THAT is where i draw the line, because school is for being educated in academic skills, NOT for debating religion. that's what church (and your home, if you wish!) is for. and as for creationism in school parading as a pseudo-"science"....????? don't EVEN get me started on that one. that's just another way for the religious neo-cons to try to change the constitution to fit their agenda and weasel their control into the public school sector..
 
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well I'm one of the lucky few that has stood in the rainbow of light arching out of heaven and lived to tell about it...

Nirvanna is where heaven and dreams meet, and yes, you will be seeing your family, you have a few that drop in on you now...

remember the last time you were being a butt head, and that chair seemed to move and stubbed your toe so bad you had tears in your eyes...


that was a relative telling you to be nice... ;)


you have other things you've seen around the house that has you wondering...
 
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I'm curious what an athiest would think about "Sword in the Stone" it's a little Thing I wrote to help in the fight to save the Mount Soledad Cross...

Sword in the Stone
 
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reb said:
and so, some students will ask, "well, which god are you referring to?? your god, or my god, or their god?" everybody seems to have their own version of god (or, none at all)- and most religions spend way too much time arguing over whose is the "right" one.
THAT is where i draw the line, because school is for being educated in academic skills, NOT for debating religion. that's what church (and your home, if you wish!) is for. and as for creationism in school parading as a pseudo-"science"....????? don't EVEN get me started on that one. that's just another way for the religious neo-cons to try to change the constitution to fit their agenda and weasel their control into the public school sector..

and as for that, I have a 750,000 year old primate fossil... That I think could be one of the first humans in the Southern California area...

you mentioned you don't mind God in a non threatening sense...

In a dream, I was in Nirvanna when the victims of London's bombing arrived, as everyone slowly headed towards the gate, suddenly the ground opened up and swallowed 4 of them in a wisp of smoke... There is a hell...

and from what I've seen, Child Molesters and terrorists get a free one way ticket...
 
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Rocky said:
I'm curious what an athiest would think about "Sword in the Stone" it's a little Thing I wrote to help in the fight to save the Mount Soledad Cross...

Sword in the Stone
I have no problem with it at all.

I have a bigger problem with very large, lumpy people wearing thongs or bikini's on the beach!;)
 
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Rocky said:
and from what I've seen, Child Molesters and terrorists get a free one way ticket...
Oh, I so hope you are right and I am wrong!
 
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The hand of man rather than God made religious icons appear to bleed and weep blood at a Brisbane Catholic Church, an investigation has found.

Brisbane Catholic Archbishop John Bathersby said today the substance that seeped from a statue of the Virgin Mary, pictures of Christ and crucifixes was not supernatural or a miracle, but synthetic.

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/07/29/1091080366746.html?from=storylhs
 
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Linda7NJ said:
I have no problem with it at all.

I have a bigger problem with very large, lumpy people wearing thongs or bikini's on the beach!;)


LOL...

yep nothing like a beached whale in fishing line...
 
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The Sky is Falling...

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A basketball-sized piece of marble molding fell from the facade over the entrance to the Supreme Court Monday, landing on the steps near visitors waiting to enter the building.

No one was injured when the stone fell.

The chunk of Vermont marble was part of the dentil molding that serves as a frame for nine sculptural figures completed in 1935. The piece that fell was over the figure of Authority, near the peak of the building's pediment, and to the right of the figure of Liberty, who has the scales of justice on her lap. (Watch pictures from the scene after the marble chunk fell -- 1:14)

A group of visitors had just entered the building and had passed under the pediment when the stone fell at 9:30 a.m. ET.
 
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Rocky.. I tried to PM you, but your box is full. :)
 
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Hi, I am just tossing ideas around (don't laugh) could it be leaking for any reasons? trapped rust finally leaking out? (I thought that was dumb but it was the first thing I thought of).

Has anyone ever tried testing blood like this? DNA or any type of blood testing?
 
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2luvmy said:
Rocky.. I tried to PM you, but your box is full. :)

I need an overflow box,

IT has plenty of room now...
 
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