GUILTY VT - Melissa Jenkins, 33, St Johnsbury, 25 March 2012

[ClaireNC]

To answer your question TexasLil regarding this:

25-Mar Sun 8:13 PM Tracfone called AP's phone :waitasec: Why call AP's phone if they were together?
I think they did a "test" phone call to see if the phone number or name would appear on the caller ID.

The whole Tracfone purchase and this phone call rings premeditated to me.

Typing from the top of my head after just catching up on the days news: It could have been an "OK, We are all set call" or a "test" call. I am not sure they are bright enough to worry about caller ID..?!? What do others think?

 

[OneLove]

Depression, diabetes, panic attacks, and social anxiety are all things we've read that PP is afflicted with. Also that she gets food stamps and receives disability payments. Anyone know exactly what her disability is as stated for her compensation?

 

[OneLove]

The whole Tracfone purchase and this phone call rings premeditated to me.

Typing from the top of my head after just catching up on the days news: It could have been an "OK, We are all set call" or a "test" call. I am not sure they are bright enough to worry about caller ID..?!? What do others think?

I'm with you on the lack of "brightness". So.......could they have simply made a test call to see if the phone was working? I can kinda visualize a "three stooges" type scenario where he dials her phone right there in front of her to say "see, this is how you do it, ____".

I'd also be curious to know if they have EVER bought any Tracphones in the past. :what:

 

[ClaireNC]

I cannot cut and paste from the PDF file, but I am pretty sure it said that HE confessed and told LE where to find her body.

I read the affidavit as AP took them to the same places that LE already knew about. Including the place where her car was found and where her body was found. LE did not know about where the other evidence was destroyed, but noted burned materials at that site.. The first two parts, the location of her car and later her body, were things the LE officers already knew, so the affidavit was supporting the fact that AP knew things that only LE knew at that time.

It was a way to prove AP's guilt. Does that make sense?

 

[SurfieTX]

Chronoligical Details from the arrest affidavit...

Date Time Incident
28-Feb Tues 1:03 PM Prues purchase Tracfone at Walmart
25-Mar Sun 8:13 PM Tracfone called AP's phone :waitasec: Why call AP's phone if they were together?
25-Mar Sun 8:34 PM Tracfone called MJ, 1 min. 37 sec.
25-Mar Sun 8:38 PM MJ called RR, no answer
25-Mar Sun 8:39 PM RR called MJ back, 3 min. 14 sec.
25-Mar Sun 8:51 PM PY saw Prue's vehicle on GH road, AP pacing, hood open
25-Mar Sun 10:00 PM RR asked roommate to drive him to look for MJ
25-Mar Sun 11:40 PM Det. notified MJ's vehicle found
26-Mar Mon 3:30 AM Det. Briefed by SGT that RR was driven to scene
26-Mar Mon 3:41 AM Det. Met with RR's roomate, took statement
26-Mar Mon 11:00 AM Det. Rec'd report of maroon Saturn in Prue's driveway
26-Mar Mon 2:00 PM Det. Arrived at scene of MJ's body
26-Mar Mon 7:30 PM Det. Rec'd briefing from CSI Team body recovered
26-Mar Mon 8:35 PM Det. Learned Tracfone purchased by Prues at Walmart on 2/28
26-Mar Mon ? Det. Rec'd report re: Sgt. Meeting with Prues and their denial
27-Mar Tues 1:20 PM Det. Spoke with ME re: autopsy details
27-Mar Tues 7:08 PM Interview of PP at PD - PP denies all
27-Mar Tues 11:50 PM Interview of AP at PD - CONFESSION
28-Mar Tues 6:55 AM Det. Briefed re: CONFESSION and AP showing them all locations
28-Mar Tues 10:00 AM Press Conference re: arrests
28-Mar Tues 11:00 AM Arraignment Hearing - Not Guilty Plea

BBM: And this wasn't premeditated? Yeah, right.

 

[ClaireNC]

BBM: And this wasn't premeditated? Yeah, right.

I agree 100%. AP had a thing for Miss Jenkins and PP hated that. So she agreed to his "I want a girl" and she chose Melissa as the target. IMO

 

[SurfieTX]

-Allen Prue was employee of Bob Ailes Roofing in St. Johnsbury for seven years, he quit in January 2012. "For the first six and a half years or so, Prue was a good employee who was never a problem, said Ailes"

28-Feb Tues 1:03 PM Patricia Prues purchase Tracfone at Walmart


Interesting, to say the least.

 

[OneLove]

I know motive has been questioned here and it's on my mind. Simply "getting a girl" doesn't seem to even begin to cover a crime like this. Reading PP's exhusband's comments about her inexplicable claims of harassment that he claims are unfounded helped me formulate a possible picture.

If she made the claims against her ex in an attempt to convince AP that the ex was still paying her attention, in essence, trying to make him JEALOUS, she may also have been very aware of AP's obsession with MJ. I don't at all believe that MJ was just chosen at random as 'any girl will do'. I think maybe she felt she was losing AP's attention and was desperate to reclaim it. Maybe eliminating MJ was the only way to do it, in her own peebrain.

Maybe she worked AP into a resentful fury at being rejected, had to allow him to sexually assault MJ to get him to kill her, and in her anger, she herself did quite a lot of the damage as far as kicking, beating, and strangling.

I keep thinking about PP's adamant denial in the face of evidence, then AP's fast confession. Maybe AP has the tiniest bit of remorse that PP is incapable of. Maybe PP was the major instigator and AP the follower, so obsessed with MJ in particular that he would take MJ on any terms he could get, even if it cost her her life.

Then again, I have several other theories. Most of all, I wish this had never happened.

 

[ClaireNC]

I know motive has been questioned here and it's on my mind. Simply "getting a girl" doesn't seem to even begin to cover a crime like this. Reading PP's exhusband's comments about her inexplicable claims of harassment that he claims are unfounded helped me formulate a possible picture.

If she made the claims against her ex in an attempt to convince AP that the ex was still paying her attention, in essence, trying to make him JEALOUS, she may also have been very aware of AP's obsession with MJ. I don't at all believe that MJ was just chosen at random as 'any girl will do'. I think maybe she felt she was losing AP's attention and was desperate to reclaim it. Maybe eliminating MJ was the only way to do it, in her own peebrain.

Maybe she worked AP into a resentful fury at being rejected, had to allow him to sexually assault MJ to get him to kill her, and in her anger, she herself did quite a lot of the damage as far as kicking, beating, and strangling.

I keep thinking about PP's adamant denial in the face of evidence, then AP's fast confession. Maybe AP has the tiniest bit of remorse that PP is incapable of. Maybe PP was the major instigator and AP the follower, so obsessed with MJ in particular that he would take MJ on any terms he could get, even if it cost her her life.

Then again, I have several other theories. Most of all, I wish this had never happened.

OneLove7xxx, You pretty much put my thoughts to words. Thanks, since I didn't have time to write it all out.

 

[SurfieTX]

OneLove7xxx, You pretty much put my thoughts to words. Thanks, since I didn't have time to write it all out.

Me too. I agree as well. Thank you.

 

[Janeumayer]

The whole Tracfone purchase and this phone call rings premeditated to me.

Typing from the top of my head after just catching up on the days news: It could have been an "OK, We are all set call" or a "test" call. I am not sure they are bright enough to worry about caller ID..?!? What do others think?

Or they dropped the phone and called it in order to find it.

 

[LotsaLatte]

To answer your question TexasLil regarding this:

25-Mar Sun 8:13 PM Tracfone called AP's phone :waitasec: Why call AP's phone if they were together?


I think they did a "test" phone call to see if the phone number or name would appear on the caller ID.

I totally agree - these mental giants probably wanted to make sure that it came up "private" or "restricted" so they wouldn't leave a phone number on any caller ID. Or maybe being the bright ones, they wanted to make sure that a number DID come up so she would call them back.

 

[No Stone Unturned]

Seems to be a "reasonable" motive if you can even call it that. OF COURSE there is no reasonable motive, but we are dealing with some sickos here.

I still don't think this was their first time. In my opinion, killers "work up to it" and test what they are capable of before following through with something as bad as this.

 

[CharlestonGal]

I agree 100%. AP had a thing for Miss Jenkins and PP hated that. So she agreed to his "I want a girl" and she chose Melissa as the target. IMO

Yes, it's blatantly obvious to me that the lovely Melissa was everything PP was not. Melissa was healthy, educated, beautiful, well-loved by everyone who knew her, and the object of PP's husband's desire. I think PP enjoyed every moment she was, as her husband said, strangling Melissa to ensure she was no longer breathing.

PP strikes me as very "off". AP strikes me as not too bright. I'm becoming more and more convinced that PP may have been the one driving this train.

 

[JoeFromLB]

Don't know if this has been asked yet, but where was his mother and sister when they took Melissa's body back to their home and did their dirty work with the tarp and the bleach, etc.?
They would have had to carry her body into the house and then out of it later to drive to the river. Momma and Sis heard and saw nothing?

This was a Sunday night, and not that late. Were they already asleep?

 

[JoeFromLB]

Yes, it's blatantly obvious to me that the lovely Melissa was everything PP was not. Melissa was healthy, educated, beautiful, well-loved by everyone who knew her, and the object of PP's husband's desire. I think PP enjoyed every moment she was, as her husband said, strangling Melissa to ensure she was no longer breathing.

PP strikes me as very "off". AP strikes me as not too bright. I'm becoming more and more convinced that PP may have been the one driving this train.

JMO, but they're a couple of sorry looking people.

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[ellabella]

Don't know if this has been asked yet, but where was his mother and sister when they took Melissa's body back to their home and did their dirty work with the tarp and the bleach, etc.?
They would have had to carry her body into the house and then out of it later to drive to the river. Momma and Sis heard and saw nothing?

This was a Sunday night, and not that late. Were they already asleep?

I don't remember exactly but did it say ey went into the house? My guess having lived across the street from a towing plowing and mowing business is that they went to a shed or other storage space on the property where there equipment and cleaning materials would have been stored.

 

[nannymo]

This murder is ultimately inexplicable. These two, imo, will never admit in full exactly what they did. It is beyond disturbing and frankly, why my heart doesn't let me come to WS very much anymore.
But I want to offer a few ideas, all my own opinion and not based on fact, rumor, or expertise.

I am around the same age as Melissa. While growing up, Michael Jordan was a HUGE icon. Considering her past coaching, I think it's safe to assume she loved basketball. Odds are, she loved Michael Jordan. So although he is no longer "main stream" to most of us, she probably had introduced her son to the words "Michael Jordan" and maybe even said things like "you're gonna be a star like michael jordan" or "he's mommy's little michael jordan". When he mentioned michael jordan it was probably just 2 year old ramblings, but the detective was smart and noted it just in case.

Also, I have a VERY VERY strong feeling that this is not the first time for this man. Maybe it was the first time he brought his wife along, and that could easily explain why things were so botched. He was out of his element with having her along.

And lastly, Melissa was very smart in that she let people know where she was going. She obviously felt uneasy about the situation and wanted to let someone know, just in case. But for the love of all things holy, it absolutely breaks my heart that she didn't follow her gut and refuse to help them.
So take note people- In this day in age, yes it is important to always let people know where you're going. But it is even MORE important to follow your instincts!!!

BBM I believe it may be the other way around. I feel like the wife was the main perpetrator and has probably done this before.

I also think the condoms and wrappers might have already been there too. But I am sure the detectives will know all that by trial.

 

[CharlestonGal]

Don't know if this has been asked yet, but where was his mother and sister when they took Melissa's body back to their home and did their dirty work with the tarp and the bleach, etc.?
They would have had to carry her body into the house and then out of it later to drive to the river. Momma and Sis heard and saw nothing?

This was a Sunday night, and not that late. Were they already asleep?

I'm wondering about this as well. Is the sister who lives there the same sister who is posting on FB? If so, the sister has a husband and two children. That means the mother, sister, sister's husband, and two children lived in that house.

How did the killers AP&PP manage to take Melissa to the house, beat her to death, disrobe her and wrap her in a tarp with none of those 5 people noticing anything? Even if they were all asleep by 9 p.m (not likely), why would the murderous duo take that kind of risk? There is something not right about that scenario.

 

[CharlestonGal]

I think even if these two criminals are only convicted of 2nd degree murder, the judge will throw the max at them, which is life. And if they ever come up for parole, I don't think any parole board will set them free. There is no one more dangerous than one who kills simply for the thrill of doing the murderous deed. NO ONE is safe with creatures like this on the streets. NO ONE.