WA - 3 children, ages 13, 9 and 7, among 5 killed inside Fall City home, 15 y.o. in custody - 21 October 2024

[ChatteringBirds]

It's too bad we can't hear his own words regarding why he did it.

 

[girlhasnoname]

Yes, the isolation and denial of friends is a known fact and published in msm articles accepted here at WS. Multiple links are posted in the history of this thread.

His grandmother had even made attempts at helping to ease his forced isolation but her efforts were rejected by the boy's mother. She also spoke to this in the aftermath of the massacre and must have been devastated and heartbroken at the outcome.

Its generally unknown how involved the father was in making (or supporting) these socially isolating decisions and computer schooling since he was working outside the home.

Because these are the known facts, they wouldn't be considered "casting aspersions". They're just factors that may or may not have contributed to the boy's *obvious* anger and frustration that culminated in a massacre. Thankfully, not every teen that is deprived of normal socialization commits murder.

But, speaking from my roles as social worker in child protection, as a juvenile justice worker, as a teacher specialist of an "at risk" teenage population and as a mother very involved in parent support organizations, I can very comfortably say that a good assessment of the situation in that home would have pointed out risk factors and recommended changes including counseling for not just the son but also the mother who was struggling with her own issues that were affecting her decisions concerning her teenage son who was developing an identification independent from his parents and wanting to be more out in the world as is natural for *most* healthy well adjusted teenagers. No aspersions; just facts.
Its not "blame", its just attending factors.

While I appreciate your assessment, there are as many ways of parenting as there are parents. Who is society to judge another family's parenting skills and family decisions and whether they are correct or not? (Unless physically, mentally or s e x u a l l y abusive) Just because it might differ from our own based on personal religious, political or socially acceptable ideologies does not mean that different is wrong.

I wonder if any of the other children were having problems as well? To me, this type of severe action seems to show some possible form of mental health and anger management issue(s). That is just a guess, because I also have no firm MSM facts as of yet.

I enjoy discussing all possibilities about these cases, I just don't condone victim blaming, especially when an entire family is murdered by one sibling. (CH would have been dead without quick thinking on her part). It will interesting to see how this all unfolds and I believe he will be tried as an adult. JMO

 

[Sjöberg]

Who is society to judge another family's parenting skills and family decisions and whether they are correct or not? (Unless physically, mentally or s e x u a l l y abusive)

There's a vague and thin line there. Just an example, is denying children religious freedom a form of emotional abuse or not? In some countries it is, in others it is not. Is hitting your own children physical abuse? In some countries it is, in other countries it is not, in some it depends on the exact method of hitting the child.

I think it's very unlikely that the chosen parenting and lifestyle choices alone made the child a killer, however, I also think it is very unlikely that they did not negatively affect the child. Nature vs nurture, the oldest discussion in psychology