WA WA - Bellingham, Georgia Pacific plant, WhtMal 20-40, 862UMWA, Continental Airlines ticket, Sep'87

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would there be any way you could speak to an advisor who could see if any students fell out of their environmental studies program in 1987? Maybe someone who was studying under or along side Susan Dixon who wrote the June 1987 article?

I am not sure if that's possible. My school isn't the best with records and I'd be shocked if anyone has been working at the department since 1987 - maybe I can ask around about this?

Or perhaps the old way of doing things - flyers around town and on campus of the UID - stating it’s a cold case and asking if anyone might remember someone matching the description?

or maybe we should just write Susan directly and see if maybe she has any ideas?

This one I can definitely do. I'll look into it this week. :)

I like the idea of working to write Susan.
 
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Is Marc on the rule outs?

CANADA - Canada - Marc April, 25, Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, 31 Jan 1987

pretty close vitals. Disappeared in January 1987 from a hospital in Canada. Not sure on specifics. If anyone can dig up more info on him IF he isn’t on the exclusions list I would so appreciate bc I’m I’ve hit a wall with info. ❤️ TIA

I would think LE could see missing persons that have left Canada after having gone missing, right? I have no clue how it all works.

The decedent isn't in Namus, so we can't see any exclusions list. Even if we could, Marc likely wouldn't be on it; Canadian exclusions aren't listed unless the LE agency maintaining the file takes extra steps to include it and make it visible.
 
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The decedent isn't in Namus, so we can't see any exclusions list. Even if we could, Marc likely wouldn't be on it; Canadian exclusions aren't listed unless the LE agency maintaining the file takes extra steps to include it and make it visible.

carbuff I’ve seen you post here on WS for so long! It makes me really interested in what theory you have at this point!!?

Homicide in some way like forced at gunpoint by a jilted female lover into the boiler? Accidental death on part of the UID who was curious about boiler for whatever reason? Suicide?
 
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My guess is certainly Death by Misadventure.

Why our decedent sought Adventure in this chimney, we'll likely never know.
 
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carbuff I’ve seen you post here on WS for so long! It makes me really interested in what theory you have at this point!!?

Homicide in some way like forced at gunpoint by a jilted female lover into the boiler? Accidental death on part of the UID who was curious about boiler for whatever reason? Suicide?

Aw thanks, but I don't usually have much in the way of theories. I tend to be more about finding out the facts and areas for further investigation.

In this case, I am most curious about a covered-up industrial accident.
 
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This particular type of misadventure really didn't become very popular within the US until about fifteen years later. Maybe he was just ahead of his time.
Man falls 40 feet down chimney while practicing Parkour
Urban exploration - Wikipedia

yikes poor guy!

or on the flip side, maybe he was from a country where parkour was something ppl were doing in 1987? I know this theory has been brought up before and apologies if it is redundant.

seems it has French roots dating back to the 50’s. There is French culture and peoples in Canada.


“the modern era. Inspired by his work, units of the French Special Forces in the 1950’s further developed Hebert’s work into what came to be known as, “parcours du combattant.”, or “the path of the warrior”.

Years later, Raymond Belle, a fireman and veteran of the French Special Forces, returned to his hometown of Lisses on the outskirts of Paris, where he introduced the discipline of parcours du combattant and the teachings of Hebert to his young son David and a group of David’s close friends, who then set out to adapt Raymond’s teachings to their “natural setting”, giving birth to what we now know as “Parkour.”

Belle and then best friend, Sebastian Foucan along with other childhood friends and family members established a group of “traceurs” (the original term for parkour practitioners), which they named the “Yamikazi”, after a tribe of warriors in Africa. As the first organized group of traceurs, the Yamikazi began to develop a following in France that included filmmaker Luc Besson. “The Yamikazi”, Besson’s film about the group accelerated the growth of Parkour.”

A Brief & Basic History of Parkour - World Freerunning Parkour Federation

it was not until the late 90’s that it became a competitive “sport”.

also I’m guessing this Raymond Belle and Sabastian Foucan are who the 90’s band Belle and Sebastian were named after?
 
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  • #128
That might fit. If it was competitive by the 90's there must have been quite a few practitioners by 1987.
 
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I believe the airplane ticket is going to be the biggest clue in this case. My family and I used to drive from Canada to Bellingham and fly out from Bellingham to California/Nevada/Arizona etc. because it was cheaper. Which only leaves more doors open I guess, considering the possibility he could be from Canada or any other state besides Washington.
rsbm
Here's a map of airports that Continental flew to in 1987, Bellingham isn't on the list although Continental possibly partnered with an airline with commute/turbo-prop connections to there from Seattle. Or maybe he flew to Seattle and rented a car or took a bus. I guess this doesn't narrow down the list of places they might be from very much. Or as @breachtones suggested, they may even have started from Bellingham to fly somewhere and return. But why keep the ticket?
Continental Airlines route map, February 1987
 
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That's the 3rd time I've read about Bellingham WA on 3 different threads this week.
Seems to have a high number of people being killed there for such a small town....
 
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That's the 3rd time I've read about Bellingham WA on 3 different threads this week.
Seems to have a high number of people being killed there for such a small town....

What other threads have you read about Bellingham on? :eek: I really don't hear about much serious crime here...there was a man who died of suicide here and was an UID for a few months a few years ago , and a professor's husband who died of unspecified (not foul play-related) causes a few months ago, but I don't recall much else. Please let me know!
 
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There is a cross-pipe 10 feet down from the top of the chimney that runs one side to the other through the center of the stack, then another set of pipes running through the entire expanse of the stack 7.5 feet below the cross-pipe (probably a bracing pipe the top one).

Below the first layer of full pipes, there is another full layer of pipes.

The remains were found atop the first layer.

0 feet - top of stack. The stack is only 4.5 feet wide at this point.
10 feet from top of stack - single cross-pipe
?? feet - "just above first layer of parallel pipes, stack abruptly widens to 11 feet diameter" (taken from the written description of the stack, but no specific height given)
17.5 feet from top of stack - layer of 11 parallel pipes with remains laying atop
21 feet from top of stack - another layer of parallel pipes

IMO the injuries (broken femurs, perhaps pelvis) were caused by him striking that single cross-pipe on the way down as it was most unavoidable given stack was only 4.5 feet wide at this portion if I understand the written evidentiary description correctly, followed by the pelvis and ankle break when landing on the set of parallel pipes he cam to rest on. He lived, at least for a little bit as earlier case points note that an ankle was wrapped with cloth as if to assist with an injury. He must have been in a hell of a lot of pain - how horrible for him it must have been.

May 2022 be the year he finds his name and makes his way home to those who loved and miss him.

Great post linked here that has the police evidentiary diagrams made of the stack:
WA - WA - Bellingham, Georgia Pacific plant, WhtMal 20-40, 862UMWA, Continental Airlines ticket, Sep'87
Thank you for those thorough explanation!
 
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That's the 3rd time I've read about Bellingham WA on 3 different threads this week.
Seems to have a high number of people being killed there for such a small town....

It's not that small, actually, and it is a VERY busy area with an active airport and college. :) Many tourists and a lot of Canadians come through.
 
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What other threads have you read about Bellingham on? :eek: I really don't hear about much serious crime here...there was a man who died of suicide here and was an UID for a few months a few years ago , and a professor's husband who died of unspecified (not foul play-related) causes a few months ago, but I don't recall much else. Please let me know!
There's Leah Roberts. She's from NC but was last seen in Bellingham before her car was found a bit east of there. WA - WA - Leah Roberts, 23, Whatcom Co, 13 Mar 2000
ETA there's several links on Leah's thread to other Bellingham and Whatcom Co. cases.
 
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Thank you everyone!
 
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everytine I hear of Bellingham I immediately think of Leah. I only know of the name bc of Leah. :(

I agree, the Leah Roberts case happened when I was around 5 years old but my family cleaned the bellis fair theater in 2000 and I'd play in the theater so it hits pretty close to home knowing that there may have been a murderer around (or still around?) Doesn't make me feel very safe. I wanted to also mention that there were two other men found dead in or around the GP Plant over the years Blair Grandstrom in 1995 and Dwight Clark in 2010 both WWU students both went missing after leaving a bellingham party! If anyone has any theories I'd love to hear them.
 
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