Found Deceased WA - Cheryl DeBoer, 54, Mountlake Terrace, 8 February 2016 #1

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  • #441
Hi! Longtime lurker... first time poster. :)

I live in the Seattle area and I've been following this case on here and on facebook hoping for good news. I know that I saw a post from someone saying that CD usually drove a jeep, not the car that was found. I have no idea who posted it, and now I can't find it. Did anyone else see this?

Yes I saw it too. People at the park & ride said she normally drove a Jeep. This means they saw her park in the lot, not the street, on a regular basis. Makes me wonder why on Monday did she drive a different car and why did she park on the street if neither were her normal routine?
 
  • #442
Yes I saw it too. People at the park & ride said she normally drove a Jeep. This means they saw her park in the lot, not the street, on a regular basis. Makes me wonder why on Monday did she drive a different car and why did she park on the street if neither were her normal routine?

I'm so glad you saw this too! I was beginning to think I was losing it. ;) It seems like a significant piece of info to me, and I'm surprised it hasn't been discussed more. It definitely supports the idea that Monday was not at all a typical day for CD.
 
  • #443
There's just a really bizarre disconnect for this lady, and this day (the day she went missing). Looking way closer to home (someone well known to her) seems more logical, than assuming it was anything else.
 
  • #444
As far as I know there is no coffee stand video. Correct me if I'm wrong.


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She's definitely not been mentioned as being on video stopping for coffee. The original espresso stand video reference came from a news article - http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20160210/NEWS01/160219855

"Police are working their way through surveillance video from the transit system, an espresso stand and other spots near the park-and-ride lot. DeBoer lives about five minutes from the lot."
 
  • #445
She's definitely not been mentioned as being on video stopping for coffee. The original espresso stand video reference came from a news article - http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20160210/NEWS01/160219855

"Police are working their way through surveillance video from the transit system, an espresso stand and other spots near the park-and-ride lot. DeBoer lives about five minutes from the lot."

I am so sorry. I accidentally perpetuated the so-called espresso stand sighting. I misinterpreted a post upthread. Many apologies.
 
  • #446
Mysterious!

Unfortunately knowing what we do, or how we do it won't help. We don't know what Cheryl's normal habits are. (I'm reading the thread from page one, currently on page 4.) Wondering if Cheryl typically left her badge in her vehicle? If so, and she drove a different one that morning, that might be why she forgot it. Of course she's human, so she may have simply forgot it at home, laying on the counter, or wherever.

If she typically drove a Jeep, and didn't that day, why? Did the oil or tires need changing? Tires rotated? Was the Jeep having issues? Did someone else need to use the Jeep that day? Or was this her normal car that she typically drove, and just sometimes drove the Jeep? No idea.

Mental check list before leaving the house, vehicle, etc. My first, pistol, second, purse and then cellphone. Believe it or not, the key to my van never leaves the van. Nor is the van typically locked. Only at like Christmas when I have gifts in it, or if I've purchased something expensive will I lock it. If a thief wants something, a locked vehicle only slows them down a bit, won't stop them. Likewise, rarely is my house locked. Crazy considering how many cases I follow here, and for years, yet, it's true. Right now, it's almost 3 am. I think the back door is locked, but the front door isn't. Having big dogs seem to deter folks from entering.

Unless there is a physical or mental reason, I don't get the silence from the husband or son. Maybe son isn't old enough to speak to the media, or father forbids it. Just isn't sitting right with me. Though if my Mom was missing, Dad wouldn't be the family spokesperson. One of us kids would. My Dad has physical and mental issues that wouldn't benefit him to be in the media.

I don't think Cheryl left on her own. Though it does happen, and we've seen it in other cases, just not the vibe I feel. She has a good job. Not sure if she's a nurse, but if so, good income. Sounds like job security. Not sure, but don't get feel she left to start over somewhere else, or take a vacation without telling anyone.

Stranger abduction is possible. Though the window of opportunity is narrow. It's possible. If she was walking that trail, and though others do use, it doesn't appear from locals to be an area that lots are people are on at the same time. It's traveled frequently, again according to the locals, but it's not like a group of 10 people are walking together down the trail. Thick woods, perfect for hiding, but a perp wouldn't know if someone else was right behind the person they abduct, or the person was to meet up with someone else soon, etc. Risky. Possible, but risky, IMO! Plus the perp would have to leave the area some way, either through the woods, or the trail, and then have a means to leave the area.

Hopefully police have security cam from somewhere! Something that shows her vehicle and Cheryl! If it was misting that morning, perhaps even footprints near her vehicle, or in some grass or muddy area entering that trail.

As with all cases, and many posters on this case, I want to know who saw her before 7am on the day she went missing, as well as if anyone physically talked to her. Texting leaves too much doubt as to who is texting. A voice is much harder to imitate.

Marriage problems? Well, most likely only the two of them, perhaps the son, would know. If the son still lives at home, he may know if things are OK or not. (If you had asked my daughter a few weeks ago, she'd have told ya Mom is stressed to the max, irritated, etc. But it truly had nothing to do with the marriage! My husband was in a severe vehicle accident, and home 24/7, I'm use to him being gone 12 hrs a day! Much adjustment!)

Wherever Cheryl is tonight, I hope she's OK.

I don't like losing hope, but I don't feel this case is going to have a good outcome. Finding Cheryl would bring some answers, but I'm getting a sinking feeling this case may take awhile to find her. Hope I'm wrong!!!

Any news if the dogs picked up a scent? While I don't trust their ability 100%, I do know like to know if they've picked up a scent. Not finding a scent isn't always a worry to me. Too many factors in why there's no scent.

Saw a mention of health issues, do we know what health issues? Was she recently diagnosed with cancer or something of that nature? Or fibro, or another chronic illness? While I'm not getting a suicide vibe, anything is possible and no one knows another person's thoughts.

JMO
 
  • #447
:fireworks::welcome3::fireworks:

Very warm welcome to all the new members! I hope once this case is solved you'll stick around and help us on other cases! The more the merrier!!
 
  • #448
I was wondering the same thing.
Is he on the street corners holding a sign for Missing Cheryl, too?

Yes it was mentioned in one article that he was out searching. I will try to find the article again.

ETA: found it -> http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20160212/NEWS01/160219726

It describes the search on Thursday:

Many of the volunteer searchers are DeBoer's co-workers from Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center. Others are family and friends of DeBoer and her husband, Mike.They are sharing photos and asking questions



Such a small window of time and so much happened apparently. Gone within seconds. I have been thinking the worst but is it possible she suffered a heart or other medical issue while walking back and veered off the trail to get sick. I am not familiar with how deep that area goes. Likely an ill person would seek people or a public place but just a thought that crossed my mind now.

If she had had a medical issue it would be a big coincidence that her phone also stopped working at the exact same time. I don't think a medical emergency is at all likely.
 
  • #449
Yes it was mentioned in one article that he was out searching. I will try to find the article again.

ETA: found it -> http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20160212/NEWS01/160219726

It describes the search on Thursday:







If she had had a medical issue it would be a big coincidence that her phone also stopped working at the exact same time. I don't think a medical emergency is at all likely.

The comment that you posted about her husband searching, That's not what I got out of the comment at all.It does NOT say he searched. (For some reason whenever we reply to a post that has a quote, the quote doesn't show up so I have transcribed it here) :

Here is the comment you quoted from the article:

"Many of the volunteer searchers are DeBoer's co-workers from Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center. Others are family and friends of DeBoer and her husband, Mike."

http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20160212/NEWS01/160219726


This comment means to me, that the people searching for her are her co-workers, and it also mentions family and friends of Deboer AND her husband. It doesn't say that her husband was searching. Friends and family of THEIRS were searching.

IMOO.
 
  • #450
I'm so glad you saw this too! I was beginning to think I was losing it. ;) It seems like a significant piece of info to me, and I'm surprised it hasn't been discussed more. It definitely supports the idea that Monday was not at all a typical day for CD.

Earlier on in the thread, I wanted to know how many vehicles they had.
I also mentioned that many couples have more than two vehicles.
How many vehicles do they have?
This Subaru was a 1988, so I would assume that this was not her main car to drive, but I could be mistaken.
Since there is talk about a jeep now, and there is a Subaru, how many more vehicles do they have, what make and model?

IMOO.
 
  • #451
If she had had a medical issue it would be a big coincidence that her phone also stopped working at the exact same time. I don't think a medical emergency is at all likely.[/QUOTE said:
Was there confirmation of when the phone went silent or was turned off? If something medically happened suddenly and she was unable to dial - the phone could have drained itself if left on especially if it wasn't fully charged and had active data connections. If LE knows it was turned off immediately after that last text I think that better seals the theory that someone else was involved.

In order of my gut feelings... I think someone else was involved that she knew , followed by random robbery and last is medical. I don't think she left on her own or harmed herself because I would think a better time/place /opportunity would have been chosen and she would have been found by now although I've seen cases where it took at least a month because the person was up above or hidden under brush.
 
  • #452
The comment that you posted about her husband searching, That's not what I got out of the comment at all.It does NOT say he searched. (For some reason whenever we reply to a post that has a quote, the quote doesn't show up so I have transcribed it here) :

Here is the comment you quoted from the article:

"Many of the volunteer searchers are DeBoer's co-workers from Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center. Others are family and friends of DeBoer and her husband, Mike."

http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20160212/NEWS01/160219726


This comment means to me, that the people searching for her are her co-workers, and it also mentions family and friends of Deboer AND her husband. It doesn't say that her husband was searching. Friends and family of THEIRS were searching.

IMOO.


Sorry I completely disagree with your analysis of that sentence. :dunno:
 
  • #453
Sorry I completely disagree with your analysis of that sentence. :dunno:

Hey, that's ok. To me, if there was a comma after Deboer, before the words "and her husband," then that would be an addition to mean her husband as well was searching. But since there is no comma, then it means friends of Deboer and her husband. And the comma after "her husband" denotes his name only. Just my opinion.

IMOO.
 
  • #454
So other than that MSM article that can be construed a couple of different ways, is there any other confirmation that her husband was (is) searching for Cheryl?

IMOO.
 
  • #455
Hey, that's ok. To me, if there was a comma after Deboer, before the words "and her husband," then that would be an addition to mean her husband as well was searching. But since there is no comma, then it means friends of Deboer and her husband. And the comma after "her husband" denotes his name only. Just my opinion.

IMOO.

I see what you mean. Maybe you're right, English is not my mother tongue.
 
  • #456
"Many of the volunteer searchers are DeBoer's co-workers from Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center. Others are family and friends of DeBoer and her husband, Mike."

Volunteer searchers
1 . co-workers
2. Family
3. Friends
4. Husband, Mike
 
  • #457
I see what you mean. Maybe you're right, English is not my mother tongue.

And the thing is, if the punctuation is not correct, then it could mean that he was searching as well. And I say this, because in a different article, the choice of the words FOWL PLAY versus FOUL PLAY. Fowl play sounds like chickens engaging in something!! So the choice of words, spelling, and punctuation enhance comprehension of the written word.

IMOO.
 
  • #458
So other than that MSM article that can be construed a couple of different ways, is there any other confirmation that her husband was (is) searching for Cheryl?

IMOO.

Not that I've seen. I've seen a couple articles about the press conference and why he wasn't there, one saying he was too distraught http://q13fox.com/2016/02/10/police-searching-for-woman-missing-in-suspicious-circumstances/ and the other saying he was too grief-stricken http://mltnews.com/search-continues-for-missing-woman/.

Which I suppose is a perfectly natural reaction for a husband who's wife just vanished into thin air.
 
  • #459
"Many of the volunteer searchers are DeBoer's co-workers from Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center. Others are family and friends of DeBoer and her husband, Mike."

Volunteer searchers
1 . co-workers
2. Family
3. Friends
4. Husband, Mike

And I see the word "Others" meaning family and friends of Cheryl and her husband,Mike.

It's ok. We all can agree to disagree! :)
 
  • #460
Regarding the son, he is a married adult who lives in Eastern Washington.
 
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