Found Deceased WA - Cheryl DeBoer, 54, Mountlake Terrace, 8 February 2016 #2

[DanceCard]

It's almost 5 here. I think I need a cocktail. This is mindboggling!

Fortunately for me, it's almost 10pm here and I just got a glass of wine!


This case is one of the weirdest I've seen at WS. Or at least the details so far make it appear very weird. I don't doubt that they have good reason why they're revealing limited information at this time.

ETA just caught up recent posts written while I was typing this. I also feel they may be preparing to say it was suicide. Doesn't feel right to me though.

 

[Yvettea]

It almost has earmarks of a suicide. Yet the method would be so far out there. Especially for a woman. At this point I guess I'm grasping.

Could you elaborate about the earmarks?

 

[Stripehaven]

They're getting lined up and ready to proclaim this was a suicide.......I've seen it before. Just recently they did this same type of drip and drab release of information on the Gliniewicz case, the cop that killed himself in Illinois. This bit about waiting for "further test" is code for "We want to see what kind of drugs are in her system", it also slows things down for about 6-8 weeks. Not releasing the cause and manner of death is a dodge of some kind by the M.E., he'd rather the cops take the beating than himself.

Only her husband would know if she had been depressed or despondent lately......and he ain't talkin'.

It is starting to seem like that to me, too, but the logistics seem impossible - your sarcastic post above makes clear how hard it would be to find suicide a believable outcome. Waiting on tox results would explain this dribbling of info. I mean, I am trying to think of the various causes of death we might expect, and I can't fathom how any of them still would be undetermined. I know extensive decomp would complicate making a determination but she was - I guess - in cold water for days. That would decomp, right??

 

[Bravo]

Fortunately for me, it's almost 10pm here and I just got a glass of wine!


This case is one of the weirdest I've seen at WS. Or at least the details so far make it appear very weird. I don't doubt that they have good reason why they're revealing limited information at this time.

ETA just caught up recent posts written while I was typing this. I also feel they may be preparing to say it was suicide. Doesn't feel right to me though.

Me either :gaah: :toastred:

 

[Bravo]

Could you elaborate about the earmarks?

Speaking to a lack of any other injuries reported. They must have something??? Not that I support the theory it just sounds like this is being hinted at?

 

[GoneGirl]

Suicide by culvert is just way, way too far of a stretch, IMO. This is so bizarre.

 

[DatelineFan]

@steelman do you think suicide is believable at this point? I'm guessing no?

 

[desertmama]

Aren't her purse and cellphone still missing? In other cases I've read about, people who commit suicide leave their belongings behind. And if she took them with her, where are they?
I'm not buying suicide at this point.

 

[Stripehaven]

Suicide by culvert is just way, way too far of a stretch, IMO. This is so bizarre.

Yeah, very far-fetched. The only remotely feasible way I can imagine is if she was sitting on the creek bank (under the influence, perhaps), slipped in, and was swept into the culvert. I have no idea if that is even physically possible, let alone plausible.

 

[Bravo]

Suicide by culvert is just way, way too far of a stretch, IMO. This is so bizarre.

I agree. Common for someone to swallow pills. Why not quietly go to sleep in your car. And why disappear your belongings? Why place yourself in a culvert? Why let your Family look in agony for days? It's not adding up. IMO

 

[steelman]

It's almost 5 here. I think I need a cocktail. This is mindboggling!

You waited until 5 p.m. to have a drink ? Let me tell you something, beer isn't just for breakfast anymore, I've found that it's actually good all day long !!

 

[DatelineFan]

Aren't her purse and cellphone still missing? In other cases I've read about, people who commit suicide leave their belongings behind. And if she took them with her, where are they?
I'm not buying suicide at this point.

I also think she would leave a note behind. It's obviously not required or anything, but from what we know of her, I think it's reasonable to assume she would have.

I can't get on board with suicide by culvert. I can't.

 

[Pseudonymph]

Suicide makes zero sense. She would have to lay down to die in full sight of rush hour traffic.

 

[steelman]

@steelman do you think suicide is believable at this point? I'm guessing no?

Of course not. If she wanted to swallow a bottle full of pills and drift off to sleep, she could have done it while sitting right there in her car. I expect the cops to come out pretty soon with a clarification about all of this, the public is going have a heydey when the MSM reports this on the evening news.

 

[Pseudonymph]

Ok self inflicted...in her car there are bloody tissues and band aid wrappers with the band aids on her fingers when found? Maybe something sharp with blood on it as well.

 

[Pseudonymph]

Or same thing but in her bathroom at home.

 

[Elainera]

It is starting to seem like that to me, too, but the logistics seem impossible - your sarcastic post above makes clear how hard it would be to find suicide a believable outcome. Waiting on tox results would explain this dribbling of info. I mean, I am trying to think of the various causes of death we might expect, and I can't fathom how any of them still would be undetermined. I know extensive decomp would complicate making a determination but she was - I guess - in cold water for days. That would decomp, right??

bbm - Yes! A lot. Cold temps and water both slow decomp.

 

[Bravo]

You waited until 5 p.m. to have a drink ? Let me tell you something, beer isn't just for breakfast anymore, I've found that it's actually good all day long !!

:laughing:

 

[Elainera]

This latest piece of info would be funny if it wasn't such a sad case.

Cuts? I wonder how big they are. Are they implying she might have tried to open an artery, although who'd try that on their fingers?

Are they releasing this info because there's nothing else on her body and they have so far no COD?

They must have been able though to establish TOD, at least. Why are they not releasing that?

They say they are considering other options apart from homicide. Maybe they mean accidental (and not suicide)?

 

[Stripehaven]

But self-inflicted finger cuts have nothing to do with suicide. Or anything, really. Why o why did the ME toss that out there, with no other info? Ugh, I am spinning in circles.

Suicide makes no sense. Not being able to determine anything beyond self-inflicted cuts seems not to make sense, either. So steelman might be right about waiting on toxicology. Which - murder by injection? Come on.