Found Deceased WA - Cheryl DeBoer, 54, Mountlake Terrace, 8 February 2016 #2

[Elainera]

Well I think LE is always withholding something, they never tell you all. I think that's a given.

 

[WhisperWorm]

From what I've read they do have a variety of evidence to test. Hopefully that won't take months.

As I was browsing FB tonight it really struck a chord with me that the "Celebrating Cheryl DeBoer" community was created on the 9th, only one day after she disappeared. That tells me that the family must have been pretty certain that she had died. CD's niece created the page. The GoFundMe account was created a day prior to her being found.

I am guessing that there's just a lot that is known, but isn't being divulged, and that is SO frustrating. The more people are aware of, the better sleuthing they can do!

 

[steelman]

Unsettled commuters arm themselves after death of Mountlake Terrace woman




Alert and uneasy, commuters at the Mountlake Terrace Park & Ride have begun to carry guns, knives, Tasers and pepper spray after the body of commuter Cheryl DeBoer was discovered near the transit center.

There are few people at the Mountlake Terrace Park & Ride who aren’t aware of the disappearance of Cheryl DeBoer and the discovery of her body over the weekend.

Indeed, fliers with photos of DeBoer were posted on nearly every newspaper box at the busy commuter center Wednesday morning, and a Mountlake Terrace police car was parked in the lot.

DeBoer’s last known destination was the park and ride, before she was reported missing by her husband on Feb. 8. A search for the 53-year-old woman ended Sunday when her body was found in a culvert about one and a half miles from the lot.

Police have labeled DeBoer’s disappearance and death suspicious, and are investigating the case as a homicide. However, police have not ruled out other possible causes of death.

Several also said they had armed themselves with guns, knives, pepper spray and Tasers.

“My boyfriend just bought me and his daughter a Taser,” said Lisa Hickok.

Erika Taylor, of Mountlake Terrace, is now carrying pepper spray. She said “everyone was jumpy” on Tuesday, the first workday after DeBoer’s body was found.

Larry Pierce, who routinely parks where DeBoer’s car was found, carries a knife with him when he walks through the wooded trail commuters use to get to the buses.

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...ace-woman-some-arm-themselves/?utm_source=RSS

Sounds like the wild, wild west is alive and well in Seattle. All you criminal types might want to steer clear of Mountlake Terrace for awhile....................

 

[DanceCard]

Mountlake terrace police is not equipped to handle a case like this. I think this is the breakdown in communication. Besides strategy, they aren't sure what to say so they don't say. They're having to rely on the State Patrol crime lab. I also believe they are probably getting assistance from other departments as MLT only has 1 or 2 detectives. They mostly deal with stolen property or DV type stuff. Maybe minor drugs. I think I read MLT is only 4 square miles. It lasts literally only 1 freeway exit.

I just hope they are withholding for good reasons and not because they have Jack.

I'm literally weirded out by this as it's barely 5 miles from where I live. Thus why I'm up at 3am.


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Thanks for this. Local information is so helpful.
Sorry you can't sleep.

 

[DanceCard]

Well I think LE is always withholding something, they never tell you all. I think that's a given.

I didn't make myself clear. I meant my thoughts were that they're withholding even more than they usually do.

That said, I can't think of another case I've followed where I've flip flopped so much about what I think may have happened. I can keep coming up with scenarios, but half an hour later I dismiss and come up with another!

 

[Elainera]

From what I've read they do have a variety of evidence to test. Hopefully that won't take months.

As I was browsing FB tonight it really struck a chord with me that the "Celebrating Cheryl DeBoer" community was created on the 9th, only one day after she disappeared. That tells me that the family must have been pretty certain that she had died. CD's niece created the page. The GoFundMe account was created a day prior to her being found.

I am guessing that there's just a lot that is known, but isn't being divulged, and that is SO frustrating. The more people are aware of, the better sleuthing they can do!

bbm

This is very interesting indeed. What did they know that made them so sure, not even leaving a shred of hope anymore? Was there much more blood in the car we think? I can't think of anything else.

 

[Elainera]

I didn't make myself clear. I meant my thoughts were that they're withholding even more than they usually do.

That said, I can't think of another case I've followed where I've flip flopped so much about what I think may have happened. I can keep coming up with scenarios, but half an hour later I dismiss and come up with another!

bbm - oh okay! Sorry I didn't mean to seem flippant.

 

[eucalyptuz]

From what I've read they do have a variety of evidence to test. Hopefully that won't take months.

As I was browsing FB tonight it really struck a chord with me that the "Celebrating Cheryl DeBoer" community was created on the 9th, only one day after she disappeared. That tells me that the family must have been pretty certain that she had died. CD's niece created the page. The GoFundMe account was created a day prior to her being found.

I am guessing that there's just a lot that is known, but isn't being divulged, and that is SO frustrating. The more people are aware of, the better sleuthing they can do!

The "Celebrating CB" is just a continuation of the original "Missing CB" page that changed its name after the body was found. I noticed it after they added some rememberence photos and the name-change was mentioned in the comments.

 

[Elainera]

The "Celebrating CB" is just a continuation of the original "Missing CB" page that changed its name after the body was found. I noticed it after they added some rememberence photos and the name-change was mentioned in the comments.

Ah! That makes more sense! Thank you for clearing that up!

 

[DanceCard]

bbm - oh okay! Sorry I didn't mean to seem flippant.

No, no it's fine! I'm all over the place with thinking about what happened to Cheryl and it's not helping me express myself well in my posts, I'm just spewing it all out as I think it! :blushing:

 

[DanceCard]

The "Celebrating CB" is just a continuation of the original "Missing CB" page that changed its name after the body was found. I noticed it after they added some rememberence photos and the name-change was mentioned in the comments.

This does make sense,thanks. I'd been looking for the "Missing" page earlier today and the only thing that came up was the "Celebrating" page. This explains it.

 

[pinklilies]

Alert and uneasy, commuters at the Mountlake Terrace Park & Ride have begun to carry guns, knives, Tasers and pepper spray after the body of commuter Cheryl DeBoer was discovered near the transit center.

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...-mountlake-terrace-woman-some-arm-themselves/

Wow, that is so weird to read, as it's all legal. As you know in the UK, we cannot legally carry anything in that list, not even the pepper spray.
So we have to be imaginative [emoji6]

Eta: just reading my post back, would like to stress I don't mean imaginative in how we would hide carrying those things. I mean imaginative in what we would use as self defence when out and about.

 

[KateB]

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...-mountlake-terrace-woman-some-arm-themselves/

 

[Treelights]

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http://www.crimestoppers.com/missing-person-cheryl-deboer-csops-220/

Here you go Treelights... thank you for info. All rather sad.

Wonderful! Thank you so much for attaching the photo of her car.

 

[MU42M]

The celebrating page changed names after she died. When she was missing the title was missing Cheryl DeBoer. After the body was found, it changed to celebrating and the missing title was removed. When I joined it was missing.

Also, the was initially for donations to help with search - after that, it changed to donations to Fred Hutch.

One thing is clear - from the very beginning, it was treated as a serious disappearance by LE and the community.

I've heard lots of rumors over the past few days from friends in our area but nothing to back them up so it's still very mysterious and unsettling to me.


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[Treelights]

Mrs. DeBoer did not walk over a mile away from her car to crawl into a culvert and commit suicide. Get that out of your minds.

The small cuts on two fingers is significant only if there are no other exterior wounds and the blood on the passenger side of the car is hers and it is only a tiny amount, a drop or a smear. The finger cuts then help to explain why there is blood there. The finger cuts do not indicate self-harm, suicide or death by bacterial infection from being in the drainage water. The small cuts do not come from any abductor or weapon. Self-inflicted means just that - caused by herself. The cuts do indicate she worked with papers or used a knife to cut food.

Meanwhile, LE urges everyone to not walk around in a fog wearing earphones. In other words, 'watch your surroundings'.

LE isn't going to release the cause of death until they are ready. LE will likely delay the announcement until forensics analysis is complete. It does not mean that LE isn't investigating the case and aren't already on the trail of the killer. LE isn't waiting on an ME decision or a final report before starting an investigation, they have been investigating since she disappeared.

She worked in the AIDS/HIV research department and someone posted earlier that she was a systems analyst. While it is possible that she uncovered some hanky panky at the hospital/medical center/whatever, it is not likely that the mythical person about to be exposed just by happenstance crossed paths with her on the same day she left her badge at home. There are a million wild-hair theories we can come up with but the simplest explanation is usually the right one. When you hear hooves, don't think 'zebras!'.

She was murdered and dumped in the culvert in the dark while there was no traffic. I do not think a random stranger hold on to her body until dark in order to dump it in that particular culvert.

Personally, I do not think she drove herself to the car park. I think she was already in the culvert when the text messages were sent back and forth. As for the blood on the passenger side, she could have cut herself bringing groceries into the house the night before.

These are my opinions, yours may vary.

Good Post!

I have to say that after reading your first sentence two sentences, I could swear my dad wrote those two sentences! "Get that out of your minds."
I love my dad! Thanks for putting my dad in my mind at that moment. He is always on my mind.

You also have a good writing style.

IMOO.

 

[Treelights]

The "Celebrating CB" is just a continuation of the original "Missing CB" page that changed its name after the body was found. I noticed it after they added some rememberence photos and the name-change was mentioned in the comments.

Thank You. I was about to say the same thing you did, in response to that post.

 

[DanceCard]

I think she was already in the culvert when the text messages were sent back and forth.

Great post.

RSBM because this sentence jumped out for me and I've been thinking about this a lot.

I'd like to hear what others have to say about this please.

Whoever sent those texts, whether it was Cheryl or the perp, they knew she'd left her ID badge at home.

So did Cheryl send the texts herself? Well, at this point we don't know the answer to that. It's possible that the investigation will come up with an answer one way or the other depending on the writing style of the texts. We don't know yet.

But if she didn't send them, how did the perp know she didn't have her badge with her? Or even know that she needed one for her work? Did she tell a random stranger, who it turns out was about to kill her, that she didn't have her work ID badge and it would take 10 minutes to go home to get it?

 

[steelman]

A surveillance system at the DeBoer’s home shows her husband leaving the house around 6:50 a.m. Feb. 8, a few minutes before Cheryl.

He arrived at this work in Mukilteo around 7:15 a.m.

Another surveillance video at the intersection of 236th Street SW and 56th Avenue W showed what appeared to be Cheryl DeBoer’s vehicle passing at around 7 a.m. headed westbound.


At 7:02 a.m. a text was sent from Cheryl DeBoer’s phone to a carpool friend saying she forgot her identification badge needed for her job at Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle.

“Just go without me,” the text said. “I’ll probably ride home with you.”

Her friend wrote back asking how long it would take and saying that she would wait.
The text back to the friend estimated that DeBoer’s trip back home would take 10 minutes.

Her friend waited until nearly 7:30 a.m. and tried sending her a message and calling her at that time. It appeared to her that DeBoer’s phone had been turned off.
Detectives learned that the phone was “powered down” shortly after DeBoer’s last text.

http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20160216/NEWS01/160219330




Are you guys even aware that they have video showing Cheryl's husband leaving for work, Cheryl leaving for work, and a video of her car as it was headed to work at 7:00 a.m. ?? The text was at 7:02 A.M. to the friend.

How exactly did she end up in the culvert during that hidden 2 minutes ?

 

[darring21]

Great post.

RSBM because this sentence jumped out for me and I've been thinking about this a lot.

I'd like to hear what others have to say about this please.

Whoever sent those texts, whether it was Cheryl or the perp, they knew she'd left her ID badge at home.

So did Cheryl send the texts herself? Well, at this point we don't know the answer to that. It's possible that the investigation will come up with an answer one way or the other depending on the writing style of the texts. We don't know yet.

But if she didn't send them, how did the perp know she didn't have her badge with her? Or even know that she needed one for her work? Did she tell a random stranger, who it turns out was about to kill her, that she didn't have her work ID badge and it would take 10 minutes to go home to get it?

When the police say the husband left at 6:45 and she left a few minutes later AND that he passed a polygraph, I believe it. The police will not reveal all of their information and be ambiguous with other information but I don't think they will outright lie to the public about an investigation that doesn't involve police misconduct. We get confirmation when her car is seen on video.

For me, that leaves her driving to the park and ride just before 7:00. I don't think someone besides her husband is going to know to text that stuff. He's been cleared so it has to be her sending the text.

I think she got jumped at or near her car. The police either have a good idea of the suspect (perhaps someone they've had run-ins with before) and they are just trying to build a good case or they have very little.