Found Deceased WA - Cheryl DeBoer, 54, Mountlake Terrace, 8 February 2016 #3

[cs2012]

Yeah, I don't think so, either. I think her carpool friends probably told them.

was not trying to insinuate that, was merely curious

 

[DatelineFan]

was not trying to insinuate that, was merely curious

Oh, I know you weren't! That would be silly.

 

[KJ's Mamu]

ok if "her niece still insisted there was no intention of catching the bus, even after CD had said she would be 10 minutes," and CD texted about riding the bus, then maybe she is saying Cheryl didnt really intend to catch the bus or someone else was texting instead, or making Cheryl text. that is how the police and her family can be right....unless her family is disagreeing with police. i dont want to think that....

Here is a link to the Family presser: http://www.kiro7.com/.../video-family-of-missing.../72160976

Her niece very clearly states during this presser there was no reference to take the bus. I suspect that either LE or the media just made an assumption that she planned to take the bus when she told her carpool friend to go without her. This presser clarified that she never stated she would take the bus.

Edit: Original message with a link to the family presser can be found in the first thread at message #74.

 

[Hdk]

how would her family know where she parks? but yes, i agree. where did they say she only parks there then, though? do we have that on video or from the police?

My wife knows my parking routine because I complain about it enough. I don't think it's unusual for her husband to know where she parks and I think if they weren't 100% sure the friends in the carpool would inform the family since they would for sure know.




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[otto]

I am the last person to be able to be sure about something related to the English language as I am a foreigner, but from what I understood from the niece words, Cheryl was, of course to go by carpool before the badge entered the story and was also to carpool after going for the badge. I mean, the colleague said she would wait and asked 'how much' and C said '10 mins' and said nothing else which was inferred by the colleague/friend that she (CD) would go back to carpool after having the badge. That's why the friend waited until 7.30 and when she didn't appear the colleague tried to cal her and the phone was off. Am I right or my interpretation is as gibberish as my English language? lol :blushing: I pity you for reading my texts, but I can assure you I do my best... but it must be a pain in the a**e :crosseyed: :runaway:

That is exactly my understanding as well. After Cheryl texted that she would need 10 minutes to retrieve the badge, communication stopped. The carpool friend continued to contact Cheryl, and waited until 7:30, but did not hear anything more from Cheryl.

Whether Cheryl offered to take the bus is insignificant because the friend continued to wait for Cheryl, and Cheryl did not take a bus.

 

[elleo]

Perhaps she parked in overflow parking because she assumed the other lot would be full since she was arriving later than her usual time.

 

[Beesknees]

Here is a link to the Family presser: http://www.kiro7.com/.../video-family-of-missing.../72160976

Her niece very clearly states during this presser there was no reference to take the bus. I suspect that either LE or the media just made an assumption that she planned to take the bus when she told her carpool friend to go without her. This presser clarified that she never stated she would take the bus.

Oh, thank you so much. I was trying to find it to post here now but couldn't. I was able to understand as the niece is very well articulated, pragmatic and clear. TY.

 

[Treelights]

Perhaps she parked in overflow parking because she assumed the other lot would be full since she was arriving later than her usual time.

Welcome!
If she was parked in that same place at 7:02am when that text was sent, maybe the other lot was not full. Maybe her car never left that spot since 7:02am?
And if this wasn't where she sent that text message from, then I wonder where she was at 7:02am. Her car was seen on video around 7am east of there.

IMOO.

 

[Beesknees]

So, we must also assume that what has been circulating in the media about texts to the carpool friend such as 'I will return with you at the end of the day' (or words to that effect), etc, were never written. I am supporting of course in what the family said in the press conference.

 

[Occam's Zebra]

Perhaps she parked in overflow parking because she assumed the other lot would be full since she was arriving later than her usual time.

But she wasn't late, was she? She was on time, until she realized she'd forgotten her badge. I think she parked on the street to text her friend. If she'd had her badge, she would have driven to the transit center. She realized the badge was missing before she'd made it there, so she turned right (to head back toward her house), pulled over and texted.

Then, something happened.

Otherwise, she would have driven home (made 2 more rights, then a left to get back on 236th? Looks like the most direct route), gotten her badge and come back.

 

[elleo]

But she wasn't late, was she? She was on time, until she realized she'd forgotten her badge. I think she parked on the street to text her friend. If she'd had her badge, she would have driven to the transit center. She realized the badge was missing before she'd made it there, so she turned right (to head back toward her house), pulled over and texted.

Then, something happened.

Otherwise, she would have driven home (made 2 more rights, then a left to get back on 236th? Looks like the most direct route), gotten her badge and come back.

True, she wasn't late at that point.

Thanks Treelights! I've been lurking for months. You guys are pretty impressive.

 

[cs2012]

So, we must also assume that what has been circulating in the media about texts to the carpool friend such as 'I will return with you at the end of the day' (or words to that effect), etc, were never written. I am supporting of course in what the family said in the press conference.

so are they saying law enforcements wrong, publically? but i thought the herald had things according to a seach warrant? interesting. from my own friends deaths who have been investigated, families and friends dont seem to always believe the report if it was overdose or suicide or everything the police say (like accidental death for whatever reasons).

its pretty common. im just surprised they did a press conference saying otherwise, and police would state something different. if police are wrong, who are we to trust anything they say?

 

[cs2012]

so i guess that is the link where they said the family is grief stricken but at the same time said they want her home safe. i think grief stricken was just a common word used.

 

[Yvettea]

Why was CD's car seen headed westward at 7:00 am at the intersection of 236th St SW and 56th Ave. W? It seems too far south.

Another surveillance video at the intersection of 236th Street SW and 56th Avenue W showed what appeared to be Cheryl DeBoer’s vehicle passing at around 7 a.m. headed westbound.
http://www.heraldnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?aid=/20160216/NEWS01/160219330&template=MobileArt

 

[cs2012]

oh wow, so she does walk through that path when she parks there. that is surprising.

 

[Beesknees]

so are they saying law enforcements wrong, publically? but i thought the herald had things according to a seach warrant? interesting. from my own friends deaths who have been investigated, families and friends dont seem to always believe the report if it was overdose or suicide or everything the police say (like accidental death for whatever reasons).

its pretty common. im just surprised they did a press conference saying otherwise, and police would state something different. if police are wrong, who are we to trust anything they say?

But did you hear it said by the LE or by the MSM? If it was only by the MSM we know how they can distort things so many times. I have nothing to doubt the family statement which is not hearsay. We coud see and listen to them speaking and saying it in the press conference in a very truthfull way in my opinion.

 

[cs2012]

Why was CD's car seen headed westward at 7:00 am at the intersection of 236th St SW and 56th Ave. W? It seems too far south.

if you google that address, its one block south and one block east from veterans memorial park. not too far west at all.

 

[cs2012]

But did you hear it said by the LE or by the MSM? If it was only by the MSM we know how they can distort things so many times. I have nothing to doubt the family statement which is not hearsay. We coud see and listen to them speaking and saying it in the press conference in a very truthfull way in my opinion.

it was said by le on a link someone else posted earlier, it was a press conference the police had put on.

 

[otto]

So, we must also assume that what has been circulating in the media about texts to the carpool friend such as 'I will return with you at the end of the day' (or words to that effect), etc, were never written. I am supporting of course in what the family said in the press conference.

She initially told the carpool to go without her, that she would probably ride home with the carpool

"At 7:02 a.m. a text was sent from Cheryl DeBoer’s phone to a carpool friend saying she forgot her identification badge needed for her job at Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle.

“Just go without me,” the text said. “I’ll probably ride home with you.”

Her friend wrote back asking how long it would take and saying that she would wait.

The text back to the friend estimated that DeBoer’s trip back home would take 10 minutes.

Her friend waited until nearly 7:30 a.m. and tried sending her a message and calling her at that time. It appeared to her that DeBoer’s phone had been turned off.

Detectives learned that the phone was “powered down” shortly after DeBoer’s last text."

http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20160216/NEWS01/160219330

 

[Stripehaven]

Why was CD's car seen headed westward at 7:00 am at the intersection of 236th St SW and 56th Ave. W? It seems too far south.

No, it is just to the east of 58th. Basically around the corner from where the car was found, and right on the way if she was taking the most likely route from home. There is an espresso stand at that location and Cheryl would have driven right past it.