Found Deceased WA - Cheryl DeBoer, 54, Mountlake Terrace, 8 February 2016 #3

[kammiemc]

Okay. The meetings were worldwide feb 6. They had several meeting locations. Roosh removed the meeting spots from the page- but... I know for certain there was more than one location in Seattle/outside of because the listed came across my fb. They often met at public libraries. I will try to find things to back this up but I am just realizing how weird the date of the meeting is. Ugh.


EDITED TO ADD: it appears that it was at random areas, but libraries are certainly on this list. I remember the library tidbit because when my cousin originally shared it on fb it discussed the fact that a library would host the group- which was probably just a misunderstanding since they likely meet OUTSIDE and not in a room or something. Anyway, they have removed it from their website, but this cached page still shows the meeting locations. I am not sure sharing this link is against the rules. If it is please let me know and I will remove it.

http://archive.is/lhMKP

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Oh gawd. That is beyond awful. I'm super thrilled that they met one block from where I work. Awesome.


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[Starry Night]

From the ROK website 'about 'section:
5. A woman’s value significantly depends on her fertility and beauty. A man’s value significantly depends on his resources, intellect, and character.


http://www.returnofkings.com/about

I thought I had seen it all in my day, but-this?

 

[Scentamental]

I had dinner with a friend of mine that lives a half block from where Cheryls' car was parked. She said the park n ride fills up by 7 a.m. and the overflow starts on 58th and then cars start parking down the side streets after that is full, namely 235th and 234th. Her take on the park is that she has always felt comfortable walking there, but has spent many years living in the area without any problem at the park itself. She also mentioned that the park n ride has not been filling up this week since they found Cheryl. I also had a chance to ask a worker at the city hall if she knew of any news conferences coming up anytime soon on what might have happened to Cheryl....she only said they are waiting on the crime lab. Also back to my friend at dinner, she also told me that once Cheryl went missing it was friends and volunteers that came to her door and spoke to her husband about their own surveillance system since they had the signs in the yard, not the police and the police have not visited them about it. I followed a murder case here in WA six years ago and they too had to wait on the crime lab for dna, blood, etc and it took MANY weeks to get results from the state lab. I would hazard to say it probably has not improved in its timeliness. The only other thing I have to add is that this crime link i am attaching (hopefully) happened several weeks ago and its only about 10 mins away from the park n ride in the city of Lynnwood. http://komonews.com/news/local/report-edmonds-community-college-student-raped-near-campus

 

[cs2012]

There actually a few entries to the path...one being a playground. I seem to remember gravel maybe being at the head of one of the paths. They didn't say that she took that path that morning for sure, did they? I will go back and watch if no one knows!!!


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during the family press conference the police said she took a gravel path.

 

[cs2012]

From the ROK website 'about 'section:
5. A woman’s value significantly depends on her fertility and beauty. A man’s value significantly depends on his resources, intellect, and character.


http://www.returnofkings.com/about

I thought I had seen it all in my day, but-this?

wow, reminds me of something my ex said to me once (that quote). i guess us woman have to be careful about telling people our infertility, eh?

 

[cs2012]

I had dinner with a friend of mine that lives a half block from where Cheryls' car was parked. She said the park n ride fills up by 7 a.m. and the overflow starts on 58th and then cars start parking down the side streets after that is full, namely 235th and 234th. Her take on the park is that she has always felt comfortable walking there, but has spent many years living in the area without any problem at the park itself. She also mentioned that the park n ride has not been filling up this week since they found Cheryl. I also had a chance to ask a worker at the city hall if she knew of any news conferences coming up anytime soon on what might have happened to Cheryl....she only said they are waiting on the crime lab. Also back to my friend at dinner, she also told me that once Cheryl went missing it was friends and volunteers that came to her door and spoke to her husband about their own surveillance system since they had the signs in the yard, not the police and the police have not visited them about it. I followed a murder case here in WA six years ago and they too had to wait on the crime lab for dna, blood, etc and it took MANY weeks to get results from the state lab. I would hazard to say it probably has not improved in its timeliness. The only other thing I have to add is that this crime link i am attaching (hopefully) happened several weeks ago and its only about 10 mins away from the park n ride in the city of Lynnwood. http://komonews.com/news/local/report-edmonds-community-college-student-raped-near-campus

when my friend's Mom went missing, they just assumed she got lost, didnt assume foul play. my ex and i started trying to flag cars to pull over and it was there we learned she had an argument with a man next to her truck prior to going missing. her truck wasn't still there, it had been towed, so theres no real way for him to have known that unless he had driven by. police never seemed to care or look into this. so your friends account seems somewhat accurate. i suppose they are working more on evidence side of things per crime lab.

 

[windrower]

I guess my point was that if someone besides CD typed that text saying the trip home and back would take 10 minutes, then they must have known that the trip would really have taken 10 minutes (which it does). If the person typing the text was a stranger to CD, they would have to guess how long the trip would take because they didn't know where she lived. What if CD normally commuted to the park and ride from Everett? Then the trip home and back would take a lot longer than 10 minutes.

Point was taken, and I agree with your statement. I didn't express my thought well. I think it odd that Cheryl's carpool wouldn't already know how quickly she could go home, get her badge, and be back to carpool. But maybe it was a new carpooling situation and neither were familiar with the other's routine, like how far they had to drive to meet up with each other.

 

[IMissCrossfit]

I had dinner with a friend of mine that lives a half block from where Cheryls' car was parked. She said the park n ride fills up by 7 a.m. and the overflow starts on 58th and then cars start parking down the side streets after that is full, namely 235th and 234th. Her take on the park is that she has always felt comfortable walking there, but has spent many years living in the area without any problem at the park itself. She also mentioned that the park n ride has not been filling up this week since they found Cheryl. I also had a chance to ask a worker at the city hall if she knew of any news conferences coming up anytime soon on what might have happened to Cheryl....she only said they are waiting on the crime lab. Also back to my friend at dinner, she also told me that once Cheryl went missing it was friends and volunteers that came to her door and spoke to her husband about their own surveillance system since they had the signs in the yard, not the police and the police have not visited them about it. I followed a murder case here in WA six years ago and they too had to wait on the crime lab for dna, blood, etc and it took MANY weeks to get results from the state lab. I would hazard to say it probably has not improved in its timeliness. The only other thing I have to add is that this crime link i am attaching (hopefully) happened several weeks ago and its only about 10 mins away from the park n ride in the city of Lynnwood. http://komonews.com/news/local/report-edmonds-community-college-student-raped-near-campus

Wouldn't police had to have spoken with them about the surveillance system ? As that evidence (video) would be used to confirm times on vid they were seen leaving the residence...

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[IMissCrossfit]

Wouldn't police had to have spoken with them about the surveillance system ? As that evidence (video) would be used to confirm times on vid they were seen leaving the residence...

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Also..that would have to be impounded as evidence if the server that stores the video was maintained at the residence..otherwise perhaps the data is stored offsite if they use a professional security monitoring company and have subpoenaed the info.

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[kammiemc]

From the ROK website 'about 'section:
5. A woman’s value significantly depends on her fertility and beauty. A man’s value significantly depends on his resources, intellect, and character.


http://www.returnofkings.com/about

I thought I had seen it all in my day, but-this?

So does that mean they want to off me because I am over 40?!


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[rotary_dial]

Personally, I think this has nothing to do with the whole ROK/PUA/MRA/redpill angle. If anything, it's distracting from the conversation about Cheryl and her untimely demise.

That's just MOO, etc...

It is interesting to watch that video of the guy in the blue truck trying to snatch someone. The whole thing can happen so quickly that a passerby might miss it if they blink.


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[kammiemc]

Also..that would have to be impounded as evidence if the server that stores the video was maintained at the residence..otherwise perhaps the data is stored offsite if they use a professional security monitoring company and have subpoenaed the info.

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Hmmm. Are people suggesting that LE got this info from the company but have not discussed it with the husband? That doesn't seem aligned with clearing him. Maybe they got the info, then poly'd him to assure his story matched, then cleared him.


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[Hdk]

Personally, I think this has nothing to do with the whole ROK/PUA/MRA/redpill angle. If anything, it's distracting from the conversation about Cheryl and her untimely demise.

That's just MOO, etc...

It is interesting to watch that video of the guy in the blue truck trying to snatch someone. The whole thing can happen so quickly that a passerby might miss it if they blink.


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You think it's distracting? I don't. I think that it's important to look at all the possibilities and events going on during that time period. The whole weekend discussed whether she intended on taking the bus or not. It was pages and pages long.

Is there some sort of rule at only rehashing the same thing over and over? Seems pointless not to talk about other possibilities.


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[rotary_dial]

As I said, MOO = my opinion only. You don't have to give it any more or any less consideration than any other opinions posted.

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[Yvettea]

I've been looking at the Google Street view and I've noticed a vulnerability in the parking arrangements at their home. Her husband leaves his pickup in front of a travel trailer or fifth wheel that is parked alongside the house. Cheryl backs her car in against the fence behind the travel trailer. There is room along side her car for another car. If an abductor was watching the house and noticed her husband routinely left a few minutes before Cheryl they could back a car in along side her car after he left and leaving the trunk up, a few minutes later when she comes through the back gate they could push her into the open trunk with little problem. Not much of this would be visible to neighbors because of overgrown trees and the barriers to sight that the DeBoer's fences and trailers create.

Since all the action takes place in an area where few people are out and about the likelihood of being discovered is reduced greatly.

ETAf course this would involve driving Cheryls car to the offstreet parking near the park-and-ride and then walking back to Cheryl's home or having the assistance of another person.

You can also use Steleman's map for this by tapping to zoom in on the property

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zAAmDUXJe_aE.knlZzA2tpxDE

 

[windrower]

Wouldn't police had to have spoken with them about the surveillance system ? As that evidence (video) would be used to confirm times on vid they were seen leaving the residence...

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i think scentamental was talking about her friend's surveillance system, not the D's. Her friend lives half a block from where Cheryl's car was found.

 

[cs2012]

Point was taken, and I agree with your statement. I didn't express my thought well. I think it odd that Cheryl's carpool wouldn't already know how quickly she could go home, get her badge, and be back to carpool. But maybe it was a new carpooling situation and neither were familiar with the other's routine, like how far they had to drive to meet up with each other.

Maybe they were just asking her moreso how long it would take to find the badge.

 

[Hdk]

I've been looking at the Google Street view and I've noticed a vulnerability in the parking arrangements at their home. Her husband leaves his pickup in front of a travel trailer or fifth wheel that is parked alongside the house. Cheryl backs her car in against the fence behind the travel trailer. There is room along side her car for another car. If an abductor was watching the house and noticed her husband routinely left a few minutes before Cheryl they could back a car in along side her car after he left and leaving the trunk up, a few minutes later when she comes through the back gate they could push her into the open trunk with little problem. Not much of this would be visible to neighbors because of overgrown trees and the barriers to sight that the DeBoer's fences and trailers create.

Since all the action takes place in an area where few people are out and about the likelihood of being discovered is reduced greatly.

ETAf course this would involve driving Cheryls car to the offstreet parking near the park-and-ride and then walking back to Cheryl's home or having the assistance of another person.

You can also use Steleman's map for this by tapping to zoom in on the property

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zAAmDUXJe_aE.knlZzA2tpxDE

Seems almost plausible. But how would they know her badge was missing?


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[cs2012]

Personally, I think this has nothing to do with the whole ROK/PUA/MRA/redpill angle. If anything, it's distracting from the conversation about Cheryl and her untimely demise.

That's just MOO, etc...

It is interesting to watch that video of the guy in the blue truck trying to snatch someone. The whole thing can happen so quickly that a passerby might miss it if they blink.


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i know this is entirely distracting and probably a bit annoying, but what does pua and mra mean? i agree it doesnt have to do with it either.

 

[cs2012]

Hmmm. Are people suggesting that LE got this info from the company but have not discussed it with the husband? That doesn't seem aligned with clearing him. Maybe they got the info, then poly'd him to assure his story matched, then cleared him.


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this has nothing to do with Cheryl's husband, someone commented on the page before this that they had dinner with someone who said the police hadn't asked about their security system.....they didn't say that someone was the husband, boy that would be a bombshell lol.