WA - Civil rights activist Rachel Dolezal pretending to be black, parents say #1

[SuzDuJour]

They took her for a black woman because of her portfolio. She mostly drew portraits of black people and submitted that to the University. She got that scholarship fair and squire.

Looks like some of her art is copied:
http://www.weaselzippers.us/226486-did-racheldolezal-even-plagiarize-her-art-work/

 

[gitana1]

If I am not mistaken this is when it hit the news. I have a feeling that the writer of the article, jeff humphrey for what ever reason, (could have been the fb post), did some digging/sleuthing and found her parents to be white and it went from there.

On the NAACP Spokane Facebook page, a picture was posted earlier this year showing Dolezal and an African-American man. In the post, he's identified as Dolezal's father. KXLY4's Jeff Humphrey asked Dolezal about that claim Wednesday afternoon.


http://www.kxly.com/news/spokane-ne...lie-about-her-race-city-investigates/33533026

He was investigating her bizarre hate crime reports. Clrealy, he was on to something. The crimes did not pass the smell test.

She loves all the attention:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...al-steps-president-Spokane-chapter-NAACP.html

That was taken right before her confrontation by the reporter. Same outfit.

 

[jjenny]

RD's hairdos in her "black" phase don't ever seem to show any roots. This factoid either means, to me, that she colored her hair every other day or wore a wig.... No way blond hair wouldn't show roots?

You can do root touch ups.

 

[Donjeta]

He was investigating her bizarre hate crime reports. Clrealy, he was on to something. The crimes did not pass the smell test.




That was taken right before her confrontation by the reporter. Same outfit.

Going by what DM says:

A smiling Rachel Dolezal is pictured for the first time walking out of a Walmart store just hours after she stepped down as the president of the Spokane chapter of the NAACP
In these Daily Mail Online exclusive pictures, Dolezal is carrying a soda and a bag of groceries and then can be seen clutching a single white rose. The embattled black rights activist dodged questions as she emerged from her home Monday morning for a brief shopping trip.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...dent-Spokane-chapter-NAACP.html#ixzz3dAmGp200
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

The latter pic has a DM watermark and the confrontation was a KXLY reporter.

IDK.

 

[RickshawFan]

He was actually her fiancé. They were engaged for two months before she called it off.

She evidently had a husband (thus the wedding photos) and an online fiancé (thus the gaudy ring which maybe she made up too?).

 

[EllieBee]

Maybe she felt that being in the ethnic minority may get one a job easier etc than if you are white..and possibly special favors..so in a way reverse discrimination. Or she is just really hoping to be black...and possibly feels she can relate to being black better than white? IDK. We let people be girls that are really boys as someone earlier pointed out..why not color? Why can she not have a color identity crisis/problem etc as some have sex/gender issues? Or maybe she is just crazy? Aren't we all?

This was my (unpopular) thought. That part of it does not "bother" me. I totally agree that it makes sense that a person may feel as though they identify with another ethnicity and want to try to "become" that ethnicity.

The part where she lies and gets jobs based on being a black woman, DOES bother me.

 

[RickshawFan]

Put her in a psy ward where she belongs..

Actually, I think she belongs in a court.....

Many of the folks in psychiatric wards are there because they need help. They are not intentionally fraudulent or narcissistic or theft-prone or ticket-prone or BSers. They did not create their situations. In some cases, they are learning for the first time that they have some mental impairment because this is the first time they have been put into a context where they have access to caring and capable diagnosticians. Many are not a danger to others, but a serious danger to themselves. Most deserve our compassion, IMO.

I would guess RD has a personality disorder. Personality disorders are not ameliorated in the same way mental illnesses are: they can be addressed (with serious commitment from the patient), but are impossible to treat.

 

[EllieBee]

I'll delete this post if it is misunderstood, but for some context:

As I've posted before on WS, I worked with Holocaust survivors for many years, supervising them and other Jewish volunteers as a research director for a national nonprofit.

I learned early on that the Jewish community believed in and honored an hierarchy of survivors, depending on how much survivors had suffered during the Holocaust. Lowest on the rung was to be Jewish and to not have family in Europe during those years, then Jewish and to have had family who escaped as the Holocaust unfolded, then Jewish with family murdered, but who did not get sent to a concentration camp. The pinnacle of acknowledged suffering was to be Jewish, have family murdered, and to have survived a concentration camp.

That heirarchy is largely an acknowledgement of a real and legitimate range of horrific suffering, but it also orders social relationships. Those who suffered most are automatically deferred to and granted respect and status no matter who they are now or what they have or have not done since the Holocaust. Their status is a result of surviving, even triumphing over those who sought their total annihilation.

IMO Rachel discovered early on that something roughly equivalent is true in the black community, which is why she chose black, not Native American, and why she was relentless in claiming victimhood.

I have seen a parallel to the Jewish hierarchy you described.

I once worked at a non-profit with a large percentage of West African employees. We also had quite a few African American employees. The AA people did not much care for the people from Guinea/Ivory Coast because they were here of their own volition and not as the products of slavery.

I get that their experiences were not shared. But I never understood the animosity. But how could I? I am white and privileged. So I found it interesting and refrained from judging what I could never understand.

 

[DebinGA]

I hope RD's "Please don't blow my cover, bro" quashes any future "I didn't know what I was doing" gambit.

 

[Donjeta]

I'm sure there are things that the child will reflect on later that he may notice as odd now. But kids generally accept what their parents tell them.

She worked (or volunteered) for HREI as a black woman. Her hair is totally dyed brown and braided in the photo. She was already pretending to be black in 2007/2008 when she worked for the program.

I don;t think her son has any idea she is a poseur. Maybe just that certain odd things have happened.

Yeah I guess it's possible that the son never interacted much with the Dolezal family and she never talked about them much and no one used to mention her father Larry in his hearing... She said she was close with her siblings but maybe she wasn't... But since she petitioned for custody it seems like it might have been true, at least for Izaiah. Izaiah would have had to be very careful in his hearing as well.

If the siblings kept in touch before the falling out the boy probably knew that the siblings used to be adopted siblings and then suddenly she was telling people that they were her blood brothers and don't blow her cover... I think she might have found it necessary to impress the son with certain things that are taboo to mention.


Maybe i'm just hoping that this all won't be a huge, devastating shock for him but comes as a kind of relief despite everything, because his burden of secrecy is over.

 

[EllieBee]

She loves all the attention:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...al-steps-president-Spokane-chapter-NAACP.html

Does anyone else think she actually looks more attractive as a fake black woman. (Don't shoot!)

I just think her hair is cute and flatters her rather round face more than her lank dishwater hair in a flat ponytail. I really like that style and wish I had curly hair. (Ducks for cover)

 

[EllieBee]

RD's hairdos in her "black" phase don't ever seem to show any roots. This factoid either means, to me, that she colored her hair every other day or wore a wig.... No way blond hair wouldn't show roots?

Her hair is pretty lightish brown although it looks darker in that pic, but not in the later that day interview. As blondes get older, their hair usually darkens. I would think her roots wouldn't clash too badly with her extensions. Now if she had gone a deep, glossy black? That WOULD be hard to maintain.

(I have a great deal of experience with hair color and corrective color.)

 

[EllieBee]

Going by what DM says:




Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...dent-Spokane-chapter-NAACP.html#ixzz3dAmGp200
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

The latter pic has a DM watermark and the confrontation was a KXLY reporter.

IDK.

Well, DM says she went on a shopping trip to WalMart. Where I guess they now use Target shopping bags? Grain of salt.

 

[Donjeta]

There seems to be a makeup line in her neck area and the skin of her cleavage looks a lot paler than the face and neck.

I guess it doesn't matter any more and she doesn't want the dress stained.

 

[Donjeta]

Well, DM says she went on a shopping trip to WalMart. Where I guess they now use Target shopping bags? Grain of salt.

Maybe they do at Target?

The frizzy-haired artist then stopped at a Target to pick up groceries and a drink before heading back to her single story suburban home. The shopping trip came just hours after she announced she was stepping down from her roles as leader of the NAACP chapter in Spokane, Washington.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...dent-Spokane-chapter-NAACP.html#ixzz3dAxQuWix
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

 

[Donjeta]

There are great things to come:

Dolezel, who resigned her post as NAACP chapter president Monday amid controversy that she is a white woman pretending to be black, will sit down for a live interview with Matt Lauer on NBC's Today on Tuesday to give her first comments since the flap.

She will also take part in separate interviews with NBC Nightly News' Savannah Guthrie, MSNBC's Melissa Harris-Perry and NBCBLK, the network's African-American online vertical.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/rachel-dolezal-break-silence-race-802607?utm_source=twitter

[video=twitter;610487730661789696]https://twitter.com/aliciamwalters/status/610487730661789696[/video]

 

[jjenny]

Maybe they do at Target?


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...dent-Spokane-chapter-NAACP.html#ixzz3dAxQuWix
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

Body of the article says Target. Caption under the photo says Walmart.
That said, she could very well be re-using the same dress she had on during the interview.
Most regular people don't have unlimited wardrobe to wear a different dress every day.

 

[Donjeta]

The Daily Mail journalism often leaves a lot to be desired but I have never known them to steal someone else's photos while calling them Daily Mail exclusive pictures.

More on the irony deficiency department:

RD in January:

• “It’s not okay that after desegregation, we lost many Black teachers, so there are fewer black teachers today in Spokane than there were 10 years ago. On the state level, we do about the same or worse in hiring Black teachers as we did in the 1970s.”

She is upset by these realities as she raises her sons, 13 and 20, telling of the struggles of mothers of Black children to work to build up children’s self concept so they go to school, despite racial slurs and threats they may experience in Spokane schools.

She's upset because there aren't enough black teachers so she got herself hired to teach subjects such as Africana studies that might otherwise had a black teacher, and sued Howard University because they allegedly didn't hire her as a white teacher.
http://www.thefigtree.org/feb15/020115mlkdolezal.html

Furthermore, she wants kids to know their true history.

 

[otto]

How do you know this, otto? i'm sincerely asking. I know more about copyright of dramatic and music rights and, often, nobody can tell whether a work is copyrightable until a judge or jury makes a ruling.

How do I know this woman plagiarized the artwork of others ... it's that obvious. Common sense doesn't need a courtroom.

"Rachel Dolezal's Artwork Is Not Only Problematic, It Might Be Plagiarized

Aside from the glaring issues of cultural appropriation and deceit rooted in the images, there also appears to be some plagiarism involved. Twitter user Jolie Adams recently juxtaposed one of Dolezal's acrylic paintings titled "The Shape of Our Kind" with J.M.W. Turner's 1840 work "The Slave Ship." As you can see, the works are nearly identical."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/...ml?ir=Black+Voices&ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000047

 

[katydid23]

Huh. I hope MY observation does not come off as racist, but I, and most of my white female friends in our 30's, 40's and 50's spend our off-time (and some of us who are fortunate enough to have dressed-down jobs, our work time) in shorts, yoga pants, jeans, flops, etc. Little or no makeup and a messy bun. Kind of the middle aged white lady uniform around here.

On the other hand, I would say that black women in our same age group are much more put together, especially for a run to the store, etc.

It always makes me think "I should really make a bit more effort in my appearance", or as MY mother would have said "For God's sake, Elle, put on some lipstick and run a comb through that rat's nest!". :lol:

That said, I do not know if this is the case with younger women. Perhaps it's a generational thing and younger white women dress up more?

Meh, it's probably more of a location thing than a race or age thing anyway.

I think age makes a big difference. My 23 yr old daughter wears yoga pants, flip flops and a messy bun, and she looks gorgeous. I try the same, and I would look like a homeless woman looking for shelter. :blush: