WA WA - Cristina Ase, 61, Vancouver, 26 Mar 2024

  • #261
I'm so very sorry. It's such a tragedy that LE doesn't take this more seriously.
I wish there was a different database of missing persons, especially the ones in the street life where the police refuse to take a report. At least then we could have something ...anything...but since we are not allowed to file, that means it cannot become a post here or really, anywhere.
 
  • #262
I'm so very sorry. It's such a tragedy that LE doesn't take this more seriously.
I think the tragedy is in the reality of the person having disappeared. Family and friends are the ones left behind with broken hearts and tears. What they need, maybe, is some type of spiritual support or counselling.

Police officers as individuals may or may not feel things deeply, but on the job they are simply employees, they follow their employer's policy and procedures, as we all do if we work for large bureaucratic/ professional organizations. I'm sure they have general rules about what kinds of cases they investigate, what tools they use, how they invest their resources.

IMO if people in a community want their police to get involved in certain cases, or types of cases, they need to contact their political representatives, because it's about the allocation of money, and that comes from taxpayers.

In Christine's case, there were suspicious circumstances that have been investigated. If there is evidence of criminality, then normal police procedure everywhere is to investigate the leads, to see where they lead. Just because there aren't updates from police means nothing. In particular, it doesn't mean police have simply lost interest and don't care anymore.

JMO
 
  • #263
I think the tragedy is in the reality of the person having disappeared. Family and friends are the ones left behind with broken hearts and tears. What they need, maybe, is some type of spiritual support or counselling.

Police officers as individuals may or may not feel things deeply, but on the job they are simply employees, they follow their employer's policy and procedures, as we all do if we work for large bureaucratic/ professional organizations. I'm sure they have general rules about what kinds of cases they investigate, what tools they use, how they invest their resources.

IMO if people in a community want their police to get involved in certain cases, or types of cases, they need to contact their political representatives, because it's about the allocation of money, and that comes from taxpayers.

In Christine's case, there were suspicious circumstances that have been investigated. If there is evidence of criminality, then normal police procedure everywhere is to investigate the leads, to see where they lead. Just because there aren't updates from police means nothing. In particular, it doesn't mean police have simply lost interest and don't care anymore.

JMO

I should have specified that my response was specific to @AislingGray18's BIL, however I do agree with you otherwise. I realize the circumstances of both cases are not related so I will just leave my reply at that.
 
  • #264
There’s a post on the Cristina ASE Missing FB page (was approved prior by WS mod) on Aug 24 by other than an Admin there, so I can’t link it, but in the comments the Admin of the page gave several replies. Some of them:

Kelly N Amy Schauer
Admin
Her husband sted she left her house at 6 am, she texted a close friend and coworker at 6:04 that she would be in late. We really don't know if she ever left her apartment complex or not.

Kelly N Amy Schauer
Admin
yes that is possible.Intally the police detectives Nikki,Susan and I spoke to said they didn't believe she ever left Vancouver.

Kelly N Amy Schauer
Admin
yes her husband went back to their country. That is where all of their family is. Cristina had no family here in the united states. She had planned to retire in a few years and move back to Argentina.


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My thoughts:

It has been a while since posting on this case, so I forgot all the pertinent clock times, but leaving at 6:00 and texting at 6:04 seems different than what I thought. I’ll need to go back and check.

If the police detectives told them they think Cristina ever left Vancouver, was that before discovering the movements of her phone to the Glenwood Park area?

Interesting that Cristina’s husband has left and gone back to Argentina. Suspicious? Or has he just given up hope. :(

MOO
 
  • #265
Interesting that Cristina’s husband has left and gone back to Argentina. Suspicious? Or has he just given up hope. :(

MOO

SBM. If she was the only one earning income in the home and he wasn't able to work for whatever reason, he may have had no choice but to go live with family.
 
  • #266
There’s a post on the Cristina ASE Missing FB page (was approved prior by WS mod) on Aug 24 by other than an Admin there, so I can’t link it, but in the comments the Admin of the page gave several replies. Some of them:

Kelly N Amy Schauer
Admin
Her husband sted she left her house at 6 am, she texted a close friend and coworker at 6:04 that she would be in late. We really don't know if she ever left her apartment complex or not.

Kelly N Amy Schauer
Admin
yes that is possible.Intally the police detectives Nikki,Susan and I spoke to said they didn't believe she ever left Vancouver.

Kelly N Amy Schauer
Admin
yes her husband went back to their country. That is where all of their family is. Cristina had no family here in the united states. She had planned to retire in a few years and move back to Argentina.


===
My thoughts:

It has been a while since posting on this case, so I forgot all the pertinent clock times, but leaving at 6:00 and texting at 6:04 seems different than what I thought. I’ll need to go back and check.

If the police detectives told them they think Cristina ever left Vancouver, was that before discovering the movements of her phone to the Glenwood Park area?

Interesting that Cristina’s husband has left and gone back to Argentina. Suspicious? Or has he just given up hope. :(

MOO
I had seen most of that this weekend, but not the part about her spouse leaving the country. He has never been identified publicly, made a statement to the public, pled for help, nothing. Total silence.

I pulled back from following this because it seemed clear to me who was behind this, and who assisted. But that is something we may now never know. I can't really say anything else without breaking TOS,

ETA : deleted, I know I am skating thin ice and saying too much, sorry Mods
 
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  • #268
OCT 18, 2024
The Federal Bureau of Investigation is asking for the public’s help to find a woman who has been missing for several months under suspicious circumstances.

...Her vehicle was found unoccupied on March 27 in Vancouver. Law enforcement said her disappearance was ‘suspicious and far from her normal routine.’
Thanks, @PommyMommy for the update.

That is a short article, so I will just paraphrase. I am confused because it first says she was reported missing by her family on Mar 26. But then it says she was last seen on Mar 23 at about 6:30am.

Mar 23?? That’s got to be a typo, right?
 
  • #269
Thanks, @PommyMommy for the update.

That is a short article, so I will just paraphrase. I am confused because it first says she was reported missing by her family on Mar 26. But then it says she was last seen on Mar 23 at about 6:30am.

Mar 23?? That’s got to be a typo, right?
I wonder, did she go into work on Monday the 25th?

Or was her last day at work Friday the 23rd?

Although it may be obvious, I'll just point out the FBI is now running this case. Which, just to start with, IMO means they believe it is probably a homicide. Plus the case must have other elements that are more complex than local police believe they can handle.

JMO
 
  • #270
I wonder, did she go into work on Monday the 25th?

Or was her last day at work Friday the 23rd?

Although it may be obvious, I'll just point out the FBI is now running this case. Which, just to start with, IMO means they believe it is probably a homicide. Plus the case must have other elements that are more complex than local police believe they can handle.

JMO
It seems it was a typo, as I checked on the FBI Seattle notice, and it says
last seen on Mar 26.
https://twitter.com/x/status/1847315905778266210

Thanks, @Cedars for pointing out what it means that the FBI is now in charge. I wasn’t sure.
 
  • #271
  • #272
It’s been a few months since the last post but I’m still really ruminating on this case and have final thoughts. MOO but this isn’t going to be solved unless a specific person travels back to America. I know that sounds overly confident/unfair but from a local perspective, VPD is truly no joke. We have a crazy amount of funding in police, a big force and they jump on murders, esp over people like Cristina. The only reason they aren’t pushing this hard is because they are pretty sure that they know who did it but can’t legally respond yet JMO

And for further perspective on how insane VPD’s force is, the other night someone drove into our complex, abandoned their car and started running.15 cop cars pulled up looking for them with a team of dogs and drones. The person's crime? Evading a traffic stop. For another example, when we had the active shooting at the Vancouver mall, we INSTANTLY had mass amounts of county police, SWAT, VPD and MULTIPLE other city PDs within our county.

Our forces are extremely prepared, competent and willing to work with other teams to resolve cases. This isn’t a smalltown force that scratches their heads when things aren’t solved.

Edit: also the FBI now being involved makes me wonder if they have more resources to track national flight data too.
 
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