MISTRIAL WA - Four Parkland PD officers shot to death, 29 Nov 2009 *shooter killed, Driver 3rd hung jury*

[Tizzle]

Helping a Cop Killer: Maurice Clemmons' Friends, Family Busted

Cop killer Maurice Clemmons pulled together a group of family and prison friends -- even a 12-year-old relative -- to hide him from the cops while he was on the run, according to investigators who are piecing together a timeline of his two days on the lam.

Pierce County officials have arrested six people -- four men and two women -- in connection with the nearly 48 hours police spent hunting Clemmons following the execution of four Lakewood, Wash., police officers in a coffee shop.

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/US/hunting-washington-cop-killer-maurice-clemmons/story?id=9226301

I sure hope the 12 y.o. relative isn't one of the young girls he is accused of sexually assaulting! Even if it isn't one of the girls, how sad it is to realize that these people will involve their youth in something so horrible and are an example for the young impressionable minds they are "responsible" for. Shameful. And rather scary. JMO

 

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The Maurice Clemmons recap: A strange new video, new post-mortem photo, new murder charges, new parolee policies, new family drama, and more on the aftermath

Here's the absolutely most-current update in the saga of suspected cop killer Maurice Clemmons, felled yesterday by a police officer's bullet: even as investigators scurry to identify and charge a growing circle of supporters who aided Clemmons after he allegedly killed four Lakewood police officers at a Parkland coffee shop (7 so far!), news continues to break.

Just this afternoon, word broke that someone may have taken a photograph of the slain police suspect, sending it along to at least one Seattle-area television station. Police say they are not happy about the breach of decorum.

Also, Clemmons' niece told KIRO/7 the family wants a memorial at the South Seattle street corner where her uncle was shot to death early yesterday morning. A memorial to remember Maurice Clemmons, that is.

http://blog.oregonlive.com/nwheadlines/2009/12/the_maurice_clemmons_recap_opi.html

 

[songline]

Morning Charlie, I have a question which might be an unpopular one or maybe that is untimely. I know the policeman who killed this is a true hero. But . . .

In the situation the LE officer found himself in, do you think he should have gotten out of his car or called for backup? Because the officer took multiple shots it says to me he didn't have a good line of sight on the guy. I don't think he put 4 bullets into the guy, one for each officer that was murdered as that would not be his job, to make a statement.

I don't know, as sitting in the car he would have been a sitting duck as bullets travel straight thru glass as well as the air! I think he is very lucky to be alive and it is probably because C was disabled and not as sharp as normal. xox

You are giving me the chance to sound evil...something I do not aspire to do But here we go.
I am thrilled he shot him, could not care less if he could have done so in any other way. such as disable the car (shoot out the tires) or make sure there was back up and take him out alive.
THIS TIME I CAN SAY - Good rid ins. :dance:
Another piece of trash that wont cost the state money.
Sorry... it does sound evil I know....this time I don't care.

 

[songline]

Nate Silver Says Maurice Clemmons May Hurt Mike Huckabee's Political Future

http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/dailyweekly/2009/12/nate_silver_says_maurice_clemm.php

IT SURE WILL...bye, bye....
WE need tough on law..not soft on law.

 

[songline]

Just wondering please do not jump on me.
Was the reason he got help for both hiding and escaping because people feared him :waitasec: I would fear that maniac.
Having said that - can it be used in a court - will is spare them :waitasec: I HOPE NOT.... (there were plenty of opportunities to get the SOB locked up).

Seems (in the MAY article) his wife feared him too...she just begs him to release the 12 year old niece whom he was being sexual with....
If she did not fear him she would have opened the door and told the child to run to the nearest police station, or at least somewhere safe.

 

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Clemmons' Alleged Accomplices Appear In Court

TACOMA, Wash. -- Three of Maurice Clemmons' alleged accomplices made their first court appearances Tuesday hours after Clemmons was shot and killed by a Seattle police officer.


The men are accused of helping Clemmons, who is believed to have gunned down four Lakewood police officers in a Parkland coffee shop Sunday.


Douglas Davis pleaded not guilty to a charge of first-degree rendering criminal assistance. His bail was set at $500,000.


His brother, Eddie Davis, is also charged with first-degree rendering criminal assistance. He pleaded not guilty and his bail was set at $700,000.


Pierce County prosecutors asked a judge to hold a third man, Ricky Hinton, in custody pending further investigation and possible charges. He will be arraigned on Dec. 3.


A fourth man, Darcus Dewayne Allen, has been identified as the alleged getaway driver and has been booked on suspicion of four counts of first-degree rendering criminal assistance, making false statements to police and driving without a valid license, police said.


Allen allegedly drove Clemmons to a spot blocks away from the Forza Coffee shop. Clemmons then walked to the shop, shot the officers and returned to the car, prosecutors said. Full story


Allen, 43, is also a former cellmate of Clemmons. They were both in an Arkansas jail.


Detectives are determining how much knowledge he had about the incident and he could be charged with four counts of first-degree murder, said Detective Ed Troyer at a press conference Tuesday afternoon.


In court documents, Eddie Lee Davis and Douglas Davis said that after the Parkland shooting, Clemmons told them that he had "taken care of business," that he had been shot by police and he had shot some officers.


On the Saturday night before the shooting, Clemmons showed the three men two handguns and "told them he was going to shoot police," according to the documents.


When asked about Clemmons’ motive, Troyer said detectives have no motive other than the fact that he was locked up in jail and the night before the shooting he told people to “watch the news, and that he was going to kill a group of cops.”


He said Clemmons did not name a specific police department and was “mad about being in jail and didn’t like police officers.”


Troyer said those who heard Clemmons say he was going to kill cops the night before the incident did not call police until after it happened.


Police said a .38-caliber revolver found at the Parkland shooting scene is believed to be Clemmons'.


Two shell casings from a .40-caliber Glock that came from Officer Greg Richards’ gun were found on the floor, according to the documents.


Clemmons was shot once, may be twice in the abdomen by a Lakewood police officer, Troyer said. When medics reached Clemmons after the Seattle shooting, he had cotton and gauze stuffed in the wound with duct tape over it, he said.

more at http://www.kirotv.com/news/21776784/detail.html

Seems that it was not only family that helped this psycho...Other felons too. I hope they trow the book at them. keep them for life.
I am sure they did not fear him, but were cut of the same cloth.:furious:

 

[songline]

Bail Bonds Outfit That Sprung Maurice Clemmons Also Passing the Buck

Jail Sucks Bail Bonds is in a tight squeeze. The Chehalis-based company that agreed to spring accused cop-killer Maurice Clemmons after two other agencies declined is the last in a long line of swinging gates that ultimately led to the deaths of four Lakewood police officers.

On their web site because jailsucks.com, the bond company that probably wishes it had a more professional name and url right now says that had it "known Clemmons was capable of such a heinous crime we never would have posted this bond." Well, yeah.

http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/dailyweekly/2009/12/bail_bonds_who_sprung_maurice.php

Jail Sucks is a pretty stupid name, IMO. How long did that one take to come up with, genius? Simpletons.

I am getting very outraged at passing the Buck and spin tactics. and it seems to be spreading like wild fire.
all of which would not be possible if a criminals history would be allowed in the court of law and not only the new charges. All of which would be very different if we were tough on law.
Unfortunately our country doe snot want the expense of keeping them in jail, but they want the expense of the revolving door which is more costly because of all the additional court house expenses on top on new cases. Cases that can free up the courts to handle a normal work load instead of 200-300 cases a day.
:furious:

 

[Tizzle]

Song, IMO, some of the people may have helped him because they may have been afraid of him or felt threatened by him. I know I would be scared of him. However, I don't think the same is true for all of those that provided him with assistance.

I'm curious if Quiyana, the other female accomplice, might be the woman/homewrecker that MC's wife was so upset about back in May? The other woman he fathered a child with while married to NS? Could this be her? I wouldn't be surprised a bit.

Or she's just his sister.

 

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Uncle: 'He was all about money ... suddenly, he was all about God'

MARIANNA, Ark. — An uncle of Maurice Clemmons says his nephew had been in a mental tailspin since spring and was withdrawn and "talking crazy about God" when they last saw each other in Washington state.

Ray Clemmons, 39, a lieutenant in the Arkansas Department of Corrections and shift commander in a maximum-security unit, said his nephew was reclusive and withdrawn.

That was a far cry from the hustler who wanted what he had been denied during years of prison and an impoverished childhood in rural Arkansas and the crime-ridden projects of Little Rock.

"Maurice was all about getting, all about having. He was all about money," Clemmons said. "Then, suddenly, he was all about God."

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2010400547_shootinguncle02.html

I remember when Little Rock was considered to be the "Crime Capital of America"...Right around the time MC was growing up there. IIRC, Little Rock had more crime per capita than anywhere else in the nation around this time.

 

[crystalgenie]

Governor says no more Arkansas prisoners

by KING 5 News
Posted on December 2, 2009 at 12:00 PM
Updated today at 12:25 PM

SEATTLE - A major announcement comes from Washington Gov. Christine Gregoire in the bitter clash between Arkansas and the state of Washington over the handling of the Maurice Clemmons case.

Gregoire anounced beginning today, Washington state will no longer accept convicted criminals on parole from the state of Arkansas.

More at link...

http://www.king5.com/news/Governor-says-no-more-Arkansas-prisoners-78341957.html

Wow... Our governor who believes in rehab for pedophiles and early release for the pedos... Whatever!!! She's just doing damage control and should have been voted out last year.

 

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Alleged getaway driver in officers' slaying could face murder charges

A 38-year-old man convicted of a double-murder at a liquor store in Arkansas in 1990 is being investigated as the getaway driver in Sunday's slaying of four Lakewood police officers, according to Pierce County authorities.

Darcus D. Allen is being held in Pierce County on suspicion of rendering criminal assistance to Maurice Clemmons, 37, the suspected killer of the officers. Clemmons was shot and killed by a Seattle police officer early Tuesday morning.

More at link...

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2010405277_webdarcus02m.html

BBM

:waitasec:WHOA, WHoa, Whoa.....Back up.

Huckabee clemency here, too? Anyone care to explain to me why a person convicted of double-murder in 1990 is assisting in a quadruple-murder in 2009??

2009
-1990
ONLY 19 years for DOUBLE murder = 8.5 years/life taken
My math has to be wrong. How can that be? 8.5years per life taken?
I mean, REALLY, Huckabee? REALLY?!?! Arkansas?? WHERE is your clemency for Damien, Jesse and Jason?!?! This is outrageous!

 

[jjenny]

Morning Charlie, I have a question which might be an unpopular one or maybe that is untimely. I know the policeman who killed this is a true hero. But . . .

In the situation the LE officer found himself in, do you think he should have gotten out of his car or called for backup? Because the officer took multiple shots it says to me he didn't have a good line of sight on the guy. I don't think he put 4 bullets into the guy, one for each officer that was murdered as that would not be his job, to make a statement.

I don't know, as sitting in the car he would have been a sitting duck as bullets travel straight thru glass as well as the air! I think he is very lucky to be alive and it is probably because C was disabled and not as sharp as normal. xox

I hope you are not suggesting the police officer should have stayed in his car calling for back up when he saw Clemmons approaching. Do you seriously think Clemmons would have waited for the back up to arrive?
Really.

 

[Searchfortruth]

BBM

:waitasec:WHOA, WHoa, Whoa.....Back up.

Huckabee clemency here, too? Anyone care to explain to me why a person convicted of double-murder in 1990 is assisting in a quadruple-murder in 2009??

2009
-1990
ONLY 19 years for DOUBLE murder = 8.5 years/life taken
My math has to be wrong. How can that be? 8.5years per life taken?
I mean, REALLY, Huckabee? REALLY?!?! Arkansas?? WHERE is your clemency for Damien, Jesse and Jason?!?! This is outrageous!

BBM.

Good questions...it looks like MC and his buddy, Darcus Allen, from Arkansas shared more than just a prison together, they both received some special treatment from Arkansas. As far as I can see, Darcus didn't receive an official clemency from Huckabee, but he lucked out without it by serving only 15 years on a double murder conviction. In addition to Darcus Allen's double murder here's some info on a charge he received while in prison for those murders...

"While incarcerated, he was convicted of second-degree battery on a corrections officer while he was imprisoned in the Cummins Unit in Grady, Ark. (Cummins Unit is the name of the prison.)"

"He was sentenced on that conviction on Oct. 1, 1999, to 30 months in custody. That time was folded into the prison term for the murder convictions."

More at link...

http://blog.thenewstribune.com/crim...-time-in-1990-arkansas-murder/comment-page-1/

So, for the double murder and the battery on the CO, while in prison, Darcus Allen served only 15 years...that's a pretty sweet deal.

 

[JoeFromLB]

Morning Charlie, I have a question which might be an unpopular one or maybe that is untimely. I know the policeman who killed this is a true hero. But . . .

In the situation the LE officer found himself in, do you think he should have gotten out of his car or called for backup? Because the officer took multiple shots it says to me he didn't have a good line of sight on the guy. I don't think he put 4 bullets into the guy, one for each officer that was murdered as that would not be his job, to make a statement.

I don't know, as sitting in the car he would have been a sitting duck as bullets travel straight thru glass as well as the air! I think he is very lucky to be alive and it is probably because C was disabled and not as sharp as normal. xox

From the reports I've read so far, the officer who ended up shooting Clemmons was sitting in his car doing some "paperwork" on the stolen car he had found abandoned with the engine running and the hood up, when Clemmons approached from the rear, walking up on the driver's side of the police car. The officer jumped out, recognized him, and ordered him to stop and show his hands, and Clemmons started to run towards the stolen car. The officer, fearing for his life (and quite reasonably), shot him multiple times. A gun belonging to one of the dead officers in Lakewood was found on Clemmons' body.

The officer was lucky Clemmons didn't have the gun drawn as he snuck up on him seated in his patrol car. We could have had another ambushed policeman.

Just from what I've read, I have no problems at all with this shooting. Clemmons could have hid behind the stolen car and shot it out with the lone officer, and who knows what could have happened. How do we know that Clemmons didn't have someone else there with him (perhaps also armed) who may have run away after the cop opened fire, but would have stayed if he hadn't? You just don't give an animal who has massacred four police officers another chance to get away. If he runs, you shoot him down, it's that simple.

 

[Texas Mist]

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Denise Hinton was seen by KOMO 4&#8217;s Joel Moreno today planting a cross near the intersection in the Rainier Valley where a Seattle police officer killed Maurice Clemmons early Tuesday.

Her dad is Rickey Hinton, Clemmons half-brother, who is now charged with aiding and abetting.

Hinton told Joel that everybody deserves to have a shrine set up and her uncle is no different. She says if people come and tear it down, it will be one more insult her family is forced to endure. She says her dad is innocent and did nothing more than behave like any brother would.


http://lakewood.komonews.com/content/family-builds-memorial-cop-killer


Helllooooo - I can't think of anyone in my family who would hide me from LE knowing I was a suspect in the murder of 4 police officers.

Talk about enablers. :furious: :furious: :furious:

 

[SuziQ]

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Denise Hinton was seen by KOMO 4’s Joel Moreno today planting a cross near the intersection in the Rainier Valley where a Seattle police officer killed Maurice Clemmons early Tuesday.

Her dad is Rickey Hinton, Clemmons half-brother, who is now charged with aiding and abetting.

Hinton told Joel that everybody deserves to have a shrine set up and her uncle is no different. She says if people come and tear it down, it will be one more insult her family is forced to endure. She says her dad is innocent and did nothing more than behave like any brother would.


http://lakewood.komonews.com/content/family-builds-memorial-cop-killer


Helllooooo - I can't think of anyone in my family who would hide me from LE knowing I was a suspect in the murder of 4 police officers.

Talk about enablers. :furious: :furious: :furious:

I think that entire bunch are a bunch of narcisists. Lock em all up. I am so sick of people commiting OJ and witness intimidation. They are so damaging to the judicial process.

 

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Clemmons made threat to kill schoolchildren, people at intersection

Maurice Clemmons threatened to kill more than just cops in the days before he massacred four Lakewood police officers at a coffee shop in Parkland.

Schoolchildren and others also were on his list of targets, according to court records filed Wednesday.

A witness told Pierce County sheriff&#8217;s detectives that Clemmons told friends and family gathered for Thanksgiving dinner at his aunt&#8217;s home in Pacific that he planned to kill &#8220;cops, children at a school&#8221; and &#8220;as many people as he could in an intersection,&#8221; according to an affidavit filed by prosecutors.
http://www.thenewstribune.com/topstories/story/978247.html

Thankfully he was injured or he may have carried out these further attacks.

 

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When Arkansas dropped warrant, Pierce Co. couldn't hold Clemmons

When a Pierce County prosecutor appeared in court on July 2 and requested that Maurice Clemmons be held on $300,000 bail, the prosecutor knew he had a safety net that could keep Clemmons in custody, no matter what: a fugitive warrant out of Arkansas.

But over the next three weeks, that warrant wound up being rescinded through an unusual sequence of events captured in hearing transcripts, correspondence and e-mails.

A Pierce County judge ultimately set bail for Clemmons at $190,000 &#8212; a figure closer to the amount sought by prosecutors than the wishes of Clemmons' defense attorney.

In Arkansas, meanwhile, corrections officials had taken steps that effectively stripped Washington's safety net &#8212; leaving authorities here both angry and confused. A central figure in what transpired in Little Rock is a former traffic judge once accused by disciplinary officials of threatening to kill a process server and filing a false insurance claim, among other allegations.

Clemmons, 37, wound up posting bond Nov. 23 to secure his release from the Pierce County Jail. Six days later, he allegedly shot and killed four Lakewood police officers.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2010409370_webbond02m.html

 

[Texas Mist]

Clemmons made threat to kill schoolchildren, people at intersection

Maurice Clemmons threatened to kill more than just cops in the days before he massacred four Lakewood police officers at a coffee shop in Parkland.

Schoolchildren and others also were on his list of targets, according to court records filed Wednesday.

A witness told Pierce County sheriff’s detectives that Clemmons told friends and family gathered for Thanksgiving dinner at his aunt’s home in Pacific that he planned to kill “cops, children at a school” and “as many people as he could in an intersection,” according to an affidavit filed by prosecutors.
http://www.thenewstribune.com/topstories/story/978247.html

Thankfully he was injured or he may have carried out these further attacks.

I just read this at king5.com before coming back to this thread -- WTH?!?!?

So he said he was gonna commit violent acts on innocent people at Thanksgiving dinner, for crying out loud, then he proceeded to do exactly that...so hide him, nurse his wounds, and send LE off on wild goose chases.

This whole family is sounding more & more messed up. UGH.

 

[fran]

I just read this at king5.com before coming back to this thread -- WTH?!?!?

So he said he was gonna commit violent acts on innocent people at Thanksgiving dinner, for crying out loud, then he proceeded to do exactly that...so hide him, nurse his wounds, and send LE off on wild goose chases.

This whole family is sounding more & more messed up. UGH.

This is outrageous! I don't care if they thought he wouldn't do it, they knew he was unstable. What the heck!?

IMHO, everyone he told this to, should have turned him in!

OhMyGosh!
fran