I spell checked !!!
My only desire here is to make it better for our to try and wrap our heads around this . I , even with Lunesta, could not get to sleep, until 514 (!) this am.
I am going to attempt to do this -its a little complicated at first ! It is called Axis , but that just makes it crazier. So, lets just call it line 1 and 2 . There are 5 lines for the total dx. 3 4 5 let just ignore.
Line one: is for the the medical disease, an illness depression, bipolar , schizophrenic, psychosis etc. Stuff , that contrary notions is a medical issue. It is NO different than diabetes. At it heart, neurotransmitter's are not in alignment. Which ones are not in alignment with one another determine what flavor mental illness you end up suffering with. Insulin is medical. Neurotransmitters are as well. We have no control over how our bodies do insulin, we have no control over how our brains (levels) generate neurotransmitters. Its medical deal.
There are 4 significant neurotransmitter. Others to but top 4. Some excite, some depress. Psyc meds are all about either lowering or increasing neurotransmitter production. But, so not get me going, there are neurotransmitter tests (controversal) out there. But basically MDs and big Pharm do not want them out there. Think there is a test for insulin, there is (neruotransmitters testing) but not used.
Think of how emtpy psychatrist offices would be if they got it close to correct the first time ! We dont have "new" diabetes meds coming out every other week. Big pharm loves it, they make fortunes throwing new ones out there. The reality is psychiatrists are guessing based on symptoms reported, and which drug manufacturers is offering the psychiatrist a trip to Hawaii for his family, which one they chose! (this has gotten a little less blatant) . SO if the psychiatrist guess wrong, often, the pt has horrible side effects. So they guess again.This is why they endlessly tweak meds. If they got it right from the beginning they would have to go from the Mercedes to a Lincoln!
So.................. If one of ones transmitters is actual high, and is his/her guess is wrong, and gives a meds that actually increases the one that is already too high, the pt suffers horrible side effects, quits taking, and back to square one for the poor person suffering. Goes on forever. If insurance companies would pay for neurotransmitter testing, in the beginning the first guess would be closer from the start! There is am interplay between between the the ones that excite and depress. So if on the other hand one of the depressive ones is on the low side, they will add in a med that increase, rather than decreases that one. That is line one.
Line two is for personality disorders, basically factors that influence how we interact with the world basically from childhood.Abuse, rejection from parent, being sexually abused, addictive parents, witnessing domestic violence etc etc. entirmenatal influences as opposed to what stuff our body is producing .
So what Taste of Honey was referring to in dual diagnosis is there can be more than one on both lines one and two.
Sociopath Psychopath have generally been replaced with antisocial personality disorder. But one can have a antisocial personality as well as a narrisist personality disorder, and what Taste was referring to Borderline personality disorder . Pls feel free to help me out here Taste..
I agree with Taste, this guy is both a Narcissus personality disorder and a Borderline disorder, with a antisocial personality disorder thrown in for good measure !
The differences we will get is which personality disorder court appointed mental folks thinks is the primary personality disorder, and then what order they put the next ones- again refer to taste, dual. He has more than one personality disorder for sure.And in likelihood has more than one entity on the first line as well!
The psychiatrist is more qualified to deal with the first line- medical - they are doctors. Therapists IMO can do better with the second line only mo, because they meet weekly and slowly learn about the abuse, addiction whatever as the pt build trust. There is disagreement here I am sure - however most people do not walk in to a stranger and say my father sexually abused me - that takes rapport development. So with the psychiatrist, the 10 minutes spent is focused on symptoms which is line one!
Others pls help clarify or challenge my attempt to overview it - . Personally I think only opinion there is some bad physical brain "injury" in childhood. Motorcycle crash, bad concussion , slammed with a baseball bat at 6, that physically messed up his actual brain. No a excuse but certainly contributory, in a very negative way. Ones arm being shattered in 8 places when 8 certainly will impact how you can use your arm , pretty much for the rest of you existence! There have been many studies, and folks like this brains are actually different, significantly so.
I thought last night, make yourself useful dude - tour the country with FBI near you, and go to grad schools , be with students - and they can see , all in one visit a whole variety of the disorders that are being discussed in classes !!
An aside here , do you guys think that we are ever gonna be allowed to see his face, and how he talks. And behaves. Is Seattle allowed or whatever the term would be to block cameras.
This notion of not wanting to impact a potential jury pool IMO is a legal crock. If one took this case to Africa, people all over the world tend to have a pretty intense repulsion, to human beings mutilating another human being . Any IMO "jury pool" is tainted just by the nature of his actions, and yes IMO I find it frustrating . I was so curious to see Holmes , and he did not let me down . Neither did the Planned Parent Hood dude, Dahmer (I read dads book , amazing). And at least Dahmer, in what appeared to be authentic, by doing interviews did help to try and help the rest of the world understand how he worked. If anyone has not seen his lengthy interview with his dad , IMO do it .
IMO Rodger Elliot's parents were authentic is sharing their shame with their sons actions.
I hope this does not get deleted, I spent time on it. My typing has improved - but running type check alone is longer than it takes you guys to write a whole post !! Hey accept deficits. Again tho most of you have endured. And yes I am thrilled that my fingers are doing better. I truly am . Practice makes perfect, well I remain far away from that !But, am proud of myself... and hope to make my fingers hits the keys better. Some of the I before c but d but before r , I think is an en-grained entity that ain't gonna be able to be changed however!! And I know what words are gonna be hard for me- but my brain goes to fast and spell checking all posts I would be on thread 1 post 287!!!
Gonna spell now, its repetitive and boring to my brain, but I shall/must do it-human behavior is complicated enough having to deal with my effort to be helpful, without removing my fingers and spelling would just be a turnoff! I think ya all are wonderful. Seeking to understand , the truthfully unendurable is human ; I so hope she was deceased before ..........................IMO I think we are talking necrophilia and cannibalism, and he spent time with her after death, almost like Dahmer,
Ugh time to start spell check see ya all on April 22 2017!!! Dread.............................
