Found Deceased WA - Jenise Wright, 6, Bremerton, 2 Aug 2014 - #8 *Arrest*

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  • #361
FWIW the brother (who he would have been staying over with) was not home that weekend. I don't believe he was staying overnight, but that was a good angle. No, I believe the Probable cause document that lists HIS residence as the scene of the crime. Further I believe that is why LE was there for nearly a day collecting evidence after his arrest.

MOO - the only person who knows for sure, isn't yet talking.


geeee......wasn't the alibi ''he's been home all weekend''' (hmmmm))

technically speaking -- there was no indication that there was any adult supervision ALL weekend JMHO as per statements made in affidavit or LE

soo could be GG house was crime scene? ((guess)) JMHO
 
  • #362
I don't know where the news article is, but the mother and step father were very involved with the kid's wrestling. They went to almost all of the meets for the three brothers listed as wrestlers.

I am mystified as to that comment as well as he had some really accomplished older brothers as well.


competition between brothers for attention -- one may have been more favored than the other ((from the other's point of view))....sib rivalry..

or just didn't get along with each other
 
  • #363
Saving my spot, and a question, don't know if this has been asked or answered, but why was JW mentoring GG? why not his step father if the family was a close as others are saying? Why was he trying to teach him to be a man?

this question has been niggling my brain, too...

Was JW's dad in the practice of "mentoring" all young men at the MHP?

Or was GG the only one?

and was there an incidence that JW's dad felt necessitated the mentoring?

Did GG's parents request the mentoring?

:dunno:
 
  • #364
I don't know where the news article is, but the mother and step father were very involved with the kid's wrestling. They went to almost all of the meets for the three brothers listed as wrestlers.

I am mystified as to that comment as well as he had some really accomplished older brothers as well.
IMO that's how JW perceived their relationship. GG had a motive to form that relationship. IMO.
 
  • #365
Was GG's older brother home that weekend?

Three cars were towed from the household. I'm guessing two vehicles belong to mom and step-dad. Who drove the third car...GG or visiting brother (if he was visiting that weekend)?
 
  • #366
This case baffles me. Before I read the probable cause statement, I thought it possible that Gaeta had some sort of mental health episode or neurological issue that resulted in the rape and murder. That's because there are zero reports that he was an anti-social loner, violent, exhibited criminal behavior, was obsessed with sex or violence or violent games or whatever...the things typical of teens with "conduct disorder" (i.e. the precursor to sociopathy/psychopathy), or typical of teens who commit sexually motivated homicides.

Once I read how he was "acting", though, during the police interviews, all bets were off. But still...he does not fit the pattern of a young person with sign of being a sociopath or psychopath, from what I've read. (We really need some mental health professionals to weigh in here).

As stated above, most teens with conduct disorder show patterns of anti-social and criminal behavior. This guy apparently doesn't. He seems to have a "normal" facade. So what does that mean?

Is it possible that he is closer to Ted Bundy? Among the worst of the worst serial killers who are adept at hiding their true, evil natures? But even Bundy showed signs, it seems:

1. Bundy was raised by a scary and violent man. Samuel Cowell [Ted's grandfather who pretended to be his father for many years] was a tyrannical bully and a bigot who hated people of all different backgrounds and who beat his wife and the family dog, and swung neighborhood cats by their tails. He apparently threw one of his daughters down a flight of stairs for oversleeping. He spoke to unseen presences. There were questions about whether he had fathered Bundy and he once, at least, flew into a violent rage when the question of Bundy' paternity was raised. "Bundy described his grandmother [who raised Bundy as his mother,] as a timid and obedient woman who periodically underwent electroconvulsive therapy for depression and feared leaving their house toward the end of her life."
2. "He showed violent tendencies as young as three years old. His maternal aunt Julia recalls lying down for a nap and waking up surrounded by knives with a smiling 3-year-old Bundy at her side."
3. Bundy reportedly mutilated animals with knives.
4. Bundy was a joiner, joining boy scouts, the Methodist church, etc. However, he later stated: “I didn’t know what made people want to be friends. I didn’t know what made people attractive to one another. I didn’t know what underlay social interactions.” He was often described as shy and introverted at this age. He was actually a loner and avoided other children.
5. He was a criminal as a child. He loved knives. He was a habitual liar. and a compulsive shoplifter. He was a pepper, peeping into the homes of women, late at night. He was arrested twice as a juvenile but the records were later expunged. http://www.allthingscrimeblog.com/2014/05/23/ten-fatal-facts-about-ted-bundys-formative-years-2/

http://students.english.ilstu.edu/smdare/bundy/tedschildhood.html

I notice that Gaeta may share one of the traits of Bundy - being shy and introverted while maintaining a facade as a joiner. Are there others? It's true that Bundy showed signs. But those signs were seen in retrospect, years and years later, when his murders came out. Prior to that, I don;t think anyone knew the full story about him and he was able to pass as human.

Is this Gaeta's story as well? Are there other signs we are not yet aware of? Regardless, the fact that really there isn't anything that immediately comes out about this teenager, and nothing that we can really glean from his social media or friends that makes us able to say, "Aha! That's it!", is chilling.

It really makes me feel he may be much more sophisticated than at least I imagined, and much more sinister. The type, like Bundy, who uses his charm, his normal appearance and ability to manipulate to too good affect - fooling everyone.

I don't know. Hopefully we'll find out but this case really has me baffled.


Intelligent and thought-provoking post, gitana -- thanks.

Ted Bundy. Yes, indeed. Same here.

As I said in an earlier post, Sigg made me think of Bundy when Bundy was young, and I felt very certain that Sigg would be headed in that direction had he not been caught & stopped.

And I compared Sigg to GG, and I think that what each did to a sweet, trusting little girl was very similar.

I hope we'll learn more -- I hope we will be allowed to see his competency exam, and I hope he'll talk more, but -- you know -- he has one of those, er, um, attorneys. Ack. (JK!)

Thanks for all your posts.
 
  • #367
I do not think GG would grab any girl. I think he targeted specific girl(s). I see rage in his actions, personal rage. WHAT enraged him, I haven't figured out yet. But this crime seems very personal to me.
 
  • #368
The whole situation makes me uneasy, so many parts of this give me a queasy feeling. IMO Jenise was a victim in so many ways, she had a rough start to her short life with very few stable people around. (MOO). I am guessing that GG's parents were unaware of the past charges against JW's father and that all blew up after Jenise was reported as missing. Possibly...or maybe they knew and were ok with that? I have no clear idea. He doesn't come across as having been a mentor type to his 6 year old DD, but maybe it was different with GG.

the mentoring part gives me an uneasy feeling, too...

However... Could JW have been mentoring/teaching his own son how to chop wood, be responsible, be productive... And since the son hung around with GG... JW just mentored both the son and GG together?

Just some thoughts...
 
  • #369
I for one early in did suspect JW. He was a good fall guy. Sadly. It is logical to start with the Family and work from there. I'm happy to say I was wrong. Yet it was a logical conclusion in the beginning. Just wanted to say this. I don't feel the need to apologize for a logical assumption. What I will say to the Family is I am so very sorry for your loss of little Jenise. It's so horrific!!!!
 
  • #370
the mentoring part gives me an uneasy feeling, too...

However... Could JW have been mentoring/teaching his own son how to chop wood, be responsible, be productive... And since the son hung around with GG... JW just mentored both the son and GG together?
Just some thoughts...

bbm

I see it that way.....some people are ''more emotionally available'' and will spend time with kids ... more approachable and perhaps GG regarded his neighbor that way JMO

don't know the personalities involved but some men are more casual and easygoing and LESS competitive -- I would think a ''jock'' household would be more macho and full of one upmanship ((MOO))
 
  • #371
I'm not so sure. In the JH case they didn't release all the video details of her until later. I thinks this is why more charges will be brought up according to reports. I think they are building their case against him. Tampering with a corpse can be another charge as well

good points... In my limited understanding of all things legal... The Probable Cause docs are presented to describe events directly related to reasons why LE find the perp culpable of the crime(s)...

perhaps the footage of GG and JW being seen at BK (if there is indeed such a video) may be brought forth as the trial commences...

And... Tampering with a corpse could be added to the charges, too, I imagine...

All... JMO...
 
  • #372
Exactly. I cannot imagine my parents allowing me to be so distraught that I couldn't help LE with a missing child case. Unimaginable. It leads me to wonder about the relationships and dynamics in that family.....

She knew he was close friends with the family.

He was on anti-depressants. She knows kids kill themselves.

Maybe she was really really worried about his mental health.

But in the back of her mind was a niggle, I bet
 
  • #373
I had a strange thought after reading your post. What if GG was aware of Jenise's father's "past" (possibly her older brother confided this to him) and GG was banking on the blame going on JW.

IMO... Something definitely to consider... :waitasec:
 
  • #374
She knew he was close friends with the family.

He was on anti-depressants. She knows kids kill themselves.

Maybe she was really really worried about his mental health.

But in the back of her mind was a niggle, I bet

It doesn't really matter because they caught him anyway, but it speaks loudly about the family dynamics. A mom asks LE to come back later because her 17yo son cannot manage to help a neighbor in need by opening his mouth for 2 seconds for swipe across the cheek? That's a strange relationship.

ETA: JMO
 
  • #375
competition between brothers for attention -- one may have been more favored than the other ((from the other's point of view))....sib rivalry..

or just didn't get along with each other

It seemed on SM that the brothers are fond of GG.

But GG commented that he wondered why his mother had so many children.

So there may be something there
 
  • #376
That photo of him holding the cup was from his fb page May 2013. I had saved a snap of it before they closed his page.

I hope that I am allowed to post this here...

But... That pic of GG sitting with the Starbux cup stood out to me, too...

I noticed that there is a forlorn look to him in that pic...

and I wondered why that pic was chosen by GG to be put in his FB... As there were relatively few pics in all...

And... His bio dad even commented on that pic in words to the effect of: "You look so sad here... Do you need to talk?"...

All... JMO...
 
  • #377
IMO... Something definitely to consider... :waitasec:
Agree. GG might have known. I mean people do "talk". What better Family for him to attach himself to! I'll bet he thought he was smarter than LE and that Dad would be a suspect. Yet he was dumb enough to leave so much evidence.
 
  • #378
It doesn't really matter because they caught him anyway, but it speaks loudly about the family dynamics. A mom asks LE to come back later because her 17yo son cannot manage to help a neighbor in need by opening his mouth for 2 seconds for swipe across the cheek? That's a strange relationship.

ETA: JMO

Very!
 
  • #379
It seemed on SM that the brothers are fond of GG.

But GG commented that he wondered why his mother had so many children.

So there may be something there

It could just be joking around - taking jabs at his brothers. But it's interesting that the "joke" puts the blame on his mother. I honestly think his comment was meant to be light-hearted....but could be revealing. JMO and spectulation...I really want to like his mom, but I wonder if GG did.
 
  • #380
It doesn't really matter because they caught him anyway, but it speaks loudly about the family dynamics. A mom asks LE to come back later because her 17yo son cannot manage to help a neighbor in need by opening his mouth for 2 seconds for swipe across the cheek? That's a strange relationship.

ETA: JMO

Perhaps his reaction made her wonder if he was involved and she was trying to protect him by asking LE to come back later. Even when our children do something wrong, I think our instinct is to protect them first. MOO
 
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