WA - Lindsey Baum, 10, McCleary, 26 June 2009 - #10

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  • #301
It wouldn't surprise me either Jennifer. I've been looking for a photo of Gerard to no avail just to see what he looked like.

I remember there was a small picture on one of the articles I read about him.. and now I can't find it.
 
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Nice article. Thanks JenniferO. Too bad they chose to run a picture of Lindsey's Mom instead of a picture of Lindsey, and it's equally a shame they neglected to mention the $10,000 reward money.

P.S. ~ I couldn't be more thrilled for you knowing your son in back on American soil! My utmost admiration and appreciation to him ... and your family. :usa:
 
  • #303
Nice article. Thanks JenniferO. Too bad they chose to run a picture of Lindsey's Mom instead of a picture of Lindsey, and it's equally a shame they neglected to mention the $10,000 reward money.

P.S. ~ I couldn't be more thrilled for you knowing your son in back on American soil! My utmost admiration and appreciation to him ... and your family. :usa:
Hi Haddie, I also wanted to say to Jennifer I too am proud of your son for doing his part for our country and am just tickled he is on American soil and will be home within days. lol IJennifer, if there is an article on his return I hope you will post it here for all to read.

xox xox xox
 
  • #304
Yay! My son is back safe on American soil! He'll be home next week!!!!


:woohoo: :clap: :Banane35: :Banane23: :balloons: :Jumpie:
 
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So sad Jacob Jones wasn't able to report that LE feel optimistic. It breaks a spirit when you here the frustration comming from LE. We can see on these threads the frustration comming through posts , leading me to believe LE is must be overwhelmed with this case. it is a bit comforting to know Officer Polly is assigned and this case is her first priorty. Wonder if she needs any volunteers that could make her job easier even if only to run errands, put up more fliers in the county's business districts ect...? As beautiful as our state is it seems to be a breeding ground for so many crimes that I feel are directly linked to some of these abductions of our children. What Mc Cleary is experiencing when talking about kids not being seen out & about has been common in our housing communities for along time in Auburn. Many of us moms have commented over the last 5 yrs. is the strange phenonmen of never seeing kids playing out in front of their homes. So sad we are forced to corral our kids to the backyard for play or at a park being monitored by a brigade of moms on the lookout. New World now! We have so many members who's sons and daughters are returning home from Iraq! God bless them for their sacrifice! moms deserve a gold medal for the worrying they've gone through. My job of 14 yrs. I retired from a yr. and 4 mon. ago was working with new injurie spinalcord pts. from Iraq and also with pts. suffering long term disability at are Seattle VA hospital. Please keep these veterans in your heart with prayers and remember those who are hospitilized at Christmas. So happy for you moms! A great thread for the parking lot would be stories of how families celebrate the home comming of their husbands, sons daughters return from duty! I know reading those would give me a happy lump in my throat.
 
  • #307
Like many of you have expressed, I also believe that Lindsey is close to McCleary. If I were her parents, I would order a box or two of topographical maps, buy a portable GPS, and a 4-wheeler, pack emergency food/water/necessities and I would start searching. There is no way I could ever sit idly by and wait; I would rather die searching.

I used to think that the perp was a local, but now I think he/she is a semi-local. Someone who doesn't actually live in McCleary, but frequents the area for family or work; someone who Lindsey was vaguely familiar with at the minimum. I think that at least one person in town has to know that "Joe Schmo" was driving through the village during that specific time-frame. I really don't think that this person just drove through McCleary one time and got lucky enough to find a child alone on the street and managed to abduct her without being noticed at all. Nope, it just seem plausible.
 
  • #308
So sad Jacob Jones wasn't able to report that LE feel optimistic. It breaks a spirit when you here the frustration comming from LE. We can see on these threads the frustration comming through posts , leading me to believe LE is must be overwhelmed with this case. it is a bit comforting to know Officer Polly is assigned and this case is her first priorty. Wonder if she needs any volunteers that could make her job easier even if only to run errands, put up more fliers in the county's business districts ect...? As beautiful as our state is it seems to be a breeding ground for so many crimes that I feel are directly linked to some of these abductions of our children. What Mc Cleary is experiencing when talking about kids not being seen out & about has been common in our housing communities for along time in Auburn. Many of us moms have commented over the last 5 yrs. is the strange phenonmen of never seeing kids playing out in front of their homes. So sad we are forced to corral our kids to the backyard for play or at a park being monitored by a brigade of moms on the lookout. New World now! We have so many members who's sons and daughters are returning home from Iraq! God bless them for their sacrifice! moms deserve a gold medal for the worrying they've gone through. My job of 14 yrs. I retired from a yr. and 4 mon. ago was working with new injurie spinalcord pts. from Iraq and also with pts. suffering long term disability at are Seattle VA hospital. Please keep these veterans in your heart with prayers and remember those who are hospitilized at Christmas. So happy for you moms! A great thread for the parking lot would be stories of how families celebrate the home comming of their husbands, sons daughters return from duty! I know reading those would give me a happy lump in my throat.

Karen, Thanks for your great post.

As a NorthWesterner I am often really thankful our area is nothing like the SE, especially Florida. I bite my tongue saying that as we have had our fair share of tragedy re the welfare of children here in Oregon as of late. Let's hope our society wakes up!
 
  • #309
Excellent article, Jennifer~ It is one of the best I have seen written in this case and gives great details.

The crime scene tape on Lindsey's door is very curious. LE should have taken it down when they cleared the scene, but why did they consider it a scene in the first place if they had determined she never made it home? I understand their need to check out her room for various reasons, but the tape wasn't neccesary.

Gosh, there are many things in this article I would love to dig into now! LOL

(Reminder-we are not allowed to post entire articles due to copyright infringment laws. Copyright Reminder - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community )

OT: Congratulations, JenniferO!! I am so happy for you and your son! It won't be long now until you have him safely back in your arms. :woohoo:
 
  • #310
The logging roads around McCleary, when the gates are open (which most of them are currently closed due to fire danger) are actually pretty accessible by car. There are potholes, but the roads are usually kept well maintained, especially the last few years as there have been many harvests. And I heard that some of the gates were actually open in June-early July, so it would have been possible for anyone with a vehicle to get into the woods.

Adendum: There were those 2 drunk idiots who crashed their truck on a logging road outside of town...
Okay, it sounds almost like the roads into our power towers. Our power antenneas are most on their own little roads, and the roads are 4x4 only when it's been raining, but when it's drier, any vehicle can get down them.
This is why locals are invaluable.
 
  • #311
Why the police tape, does anybody know?

According to the article that Jen posted, they are still not sure how to treat the case. Since there is no definite evidence in any direction, they still consider the possibility that she is a runaway. Especially after looking at her home life. So I would assume that's what the police tape is for, the possibility that she has runaway. This says to me though that LE really doesn't have anything of any significance and they know little more than they did the night she disappeared. Unfortunately. :banghead:
 
  • #312
JenniferO - thank you for the sad yet interesting article. I find it so sad that mom Baum goes out and drives for hours hoping something will pull her toward her daughter. The family unit is minus a very talkative and dynamic member - a daughter/sister and this fact is a tragic loss for everyone. Divorce is quite enough...the loss of a child is more than most can tolerate and I wish both Josh and mom Baum a quick ending to this heart wrenching story. I hope with all my heart that this doesn't turn into a 'cold' case!!!

My heart goes out to all of Lindsey's loved ones and little friends...:blowkiss:
 
  • #313
According to the article that Jen posted, they are still not sure how to treat the case. Since there is no definite evidence in any direction, they still consider the possibility that she is a runaway. Especially after looking at her home life. So I would assume that's what the police tape is for, the possibility that she has runaway. This says to me though that LE really doesn't have anything of any significance and they know little more than they did the night she disappeared. Unfortunately. :banghead:

Sadly, I think you're right. I don't think the case has progressed much, if at all. However, I don't believe for one minute that she ran away.
 
  • #314
Sadly, I think you're right. I don't think the case has progressed much, if at all. However, I don't believe for one minute that she ran away.

Me either, however if she ran away, at least there's a good possibility she is still alive. I would much rather see her as a runaway then in the hands of a perp or worse, laying in a shallow grave somewhere.
 
  • #315
I haven't read through all of the posts past Karens so if I someone said something and I don't address it in this post, I will edit and add it.
First, thank you to everyone who has commented on my sons return. I (and he) appreciate your support.

I just wanted to say that for the past week I've felt guilty.. this feeling comes from the fact that I am rejoicing in the fact that after a long year my son is coming home. I'm thrilled that he is getting out of that war area. I'm thrilled that he wasn't injured or killed. He is my first born.. I was just a baby when he was born (Ok, I was 18 almost 19 but still.. so young). We pretty much grew up together. There is a bond between us that I can't even explain..
I've been helping his wife raise his first born.. she was 5 months old when he left.. she turned 18 months just a few days ago. He sacrificed seeing his daughters first everythings.. to serve for our country.
So why do I feel guilty? Because he choose to put himself in harms way. He signed up for the Army at the age of 17. He volunteered for border patrol in Arizona for 2 years, came home for 3 months and deployed to Iraq for a year.
And I'm rejoicing the fact that he is coming HOME.
But Lindsey and millions of other children don't get to chose if they are put into harms way. Many never get to go home.. mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, aunts, uncles, etc don't get to see those children grow up, they don't get to experience so many things that I've gotten to with my children.

I don't want to take away from the children that are missing... but I just wanted to tell everyone thank you. Like I said my son appreciates your support. Although he'd be the first to tell you to stop thanking him.. he says he didn't do anything special. He was just doing his job.. just like every other person on earth.
 
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I would to be on the safe side. Also anyone who quoted the whole article should edit, too.

I think they used to say 1/3 of the story we can reprint, but don't quote me. LOL

Hmmmm...makes me wonder how Angel can post whole articles tho. I was always told it was a huge no-no here. :confused:
 
  • #318
Such a sad story and how frustrating to have a feeling she is close to home but can't be found. When I read that the "daily specials" are going back up on the local business marquee's that made me feel horrible for LB's Mom. Not that everyone has forgotten about her or the support is gone, just that life has to move on at some point. I imagine it is harder for her now that things have quieted down. She is still missing her daughter and that is an agony that won't cease until she has answers.

Has Texas Equisearch (sp) been contacted? I read that Tuba has suggested some specific area's to search. I agree with the poster who said she would get a quad and gps unit and search herself, it would help maintain the sanity. I also thought about the Father, he is NG right? Does anyone know if local soldiers from Fort Lewis have tried to organize volunteer search parties? Hopefully someone gives any one searching Tuba's suggested coordinates. I believe the charts were right on in the Tori-Missing Child in Canada case ...
 
  • #319
I haven't read through all of the posts past Karens so if I someone said something and I don't address it in this post, I will edit and add it.
First, thank you to everyone who has commented on my sons return. I (and he) appreciate your support.

I just wanted to say that for the past week I've felt guilty.. this feeling comes from the fact that I am rejoicing in the fact that after a long year my son is coming home. I'm thrilled that he is getting out of that war area. I'm thrilled that he wasn't injured or killed. He is my first born.. I was just a baby when he was born (Ok, I was 18 almost 19 but still.. so young). We pretty much grew up together. There is a bond between us that I can't even explain..
I've been helping his wife raise his first born.. she was 5 months old when he left.. she turned 18 months just a few days ago. He sacrificed seeing his daughters first everythings.. to serve for our country.
So why do I feel guilty? Because he choose to put himself in harms way. He signed up for the Army at the age of 17. He volunteered for border patrol in Arizona for 2 years, came home for 3 months and deployed to Iraq for a year.
And I'm rejoicing the fact that he is coming HOME.
But Lindsey and millions of other children don't get to chose if they are put into harms way. Many never get to go home.. mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, aunts, uncles, etc don't get to see those children grow up, they don't get to experience so many things that I've gotten to with my children.

I don't want to take away from the children that are missing... but I just wanted to tell everyone thank you. Like I said my son appreciates your support. Although he'd be the first to tell you to stop thanking him.. he says he didn't do anything special. He was just doing his job.. just like every other person on earth.

JenniferO: A note to you about feeling even one second of guilt - please throw it away. If I read right, you have seen your son for 3 months in the last 3 years - not very much is it? You have worried about your son as only a mom can do; you have helped your daughter-in-law, grandbaby and in the mean time, tried to care for yourself. Your son is on American soil and about to put his arms around you and loved ones...it could have just as easily been the other way around where you never see him again. Rejoice and know that you have only joy to experience for now. In the midst of all your tending to family, you have mustered enormous amounts of time on the Lindsey thread where your contributions, along with other locals, have been enormous. ((((((hugs to you and your brave son))))))

I am amazed at the tenacity people on the Lindsey thread have - tearing apart every possibility looking for some overlooked clue, and never giving up. I have to admit, even though I look in on this thread often, I feel this case can go cold, quickly. Hope I'm completely wrong.... and if I am, I have no doubt that your dedication to Lindsey will be the reason why. :blowkiss:
 
  • #320
I would to be on the safe side. Also anyone who quoted the whole article should edit, too.

I think they used to say 1/3 of the story we can reprint, but don't quote me. LOL

Hmmmm...makes me wonder how Angel can post whole articles tho. I was always told it was a huge no-no here. :confused:

I was thinking the same thing, SS! I think (and therefore this is the dangerous part ha ha) that Tricia has heard from certain site managers and therefore is more sensitive to some than others. And I think (again MOO) the idea of copy/paste portions of the original is so that people will go to the site and see the sponsor messages.

Its all about the sponsors - right?:waitasec:
 
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