WA - Lindsey Baum, 10, McCleary, 26 June 2009 - #2

[distracted]

Yes, you are right. That is why I have aged 5 years in this one day.

I feel your pain. At least I think we have it right, though, finally!:blowkiss:

 

[distracted]

Hello, Newbie here.

I found this website by doing a google search on the mlachester person who has been posting on king5.com. She's an interesting one to say the least.

I've read the other thread and now this one and I wanted to make a few comments.

I live in Montesano, which is about 17 miles west of McCleary. I have family/friends in McCleary. One semi family member (Jennifer Estes) was quoted in the other thread (by darlin_gal post #524) talking about her daughter Michaela. Just so everyone understands this Michaela knows Lindsey but is not friends with her (I'm thinking since there are so many Michaelas around that age that it must have been a very common name 10-12 years ago. lol). Jennifer Estes' Michaela also goes by Kayla for short.

Also the pictures posted by Steadfast (post #509 in the other thread).. one is labeled incorrectly. The first picture is looking east down Maple, NOT west. The right side of the street would be to the south, the left side of the street would be to the north. I'm trying to figure out on the map exactly where the creek runs through McCleary. I've been through there a million times but I've honestly never paid attention to this area. I just kind of drive to where I need to go.

Now that I've taken a closer look.. It looks as if the creek runs on the north side of Maple from 7th street towards the west to the end of Maple. If I remember correctly 8th and 9th are dead end roads.

Thank you, Jennifer, for clearing that up for us. And welcome to WS!

 

[scandi]

I suspected that the picture was mislabled. Someone else brought up earlier that it seemed to be facing towards the Shell Station. (Which, apparently, IS where it's facing.) Since it is facing east, it's a picture of Lindsey's route from a little past where she started down the road to wherever it was she was last seen.
Here's the pic again for anyone who is interested.

Looking EAST down Maple from near corner of 7th St towards Shell Station.

PS Welcome to WS, Jennifer!

WELCOME to Websleuths Jennifer. We really appreciate local people here and I think now that you have found us you will find many other interesting topics as well. xox

BTW, This Mlachester who is Marilyn, do you know where she lives now? Thanks

Hello, Newbie here.

I found this website by doing a google search on the mlachester person who has been posting on king5.com. She's an interesting one to say the least.

I've read the other thread and now this one and I wanted to make a few comments.

I live in Montesano, which is about 17 miles west of McCleary. I have family/friends in McCleary. One semi family member (Jennifer Estes) was quoted in the other thread (by darlin_gal post #524) talking about her daughter Michaela. Just so everyone understands this Michaela knows Lindsey but is not friends with her (I'm thinking since there are so many Michaelas around that age that it must have been a very common name 10-12 years ago. lol). Jennifer Estes' Michaela also goes by Kayla for short.

Also the pictures posted by Steadfast (post #509 in the other thread).. one is labeled incorrectly. The first picture is looking east down Maple, NOT west. The right side of the street would be to the south, the left side of the street would be to the north. I'm trying to figure out on the map exactly where the creek runs through McCleary. I've been through there a million times but I've honestly never paid attention to this area. I just kind of drive to where I need to go.

Now that I've taken a closer look.. It looks as if the creek runs on the north side of Maple from 7th street towards the west to the end of Maple. If I remember correctly 8th and 9th are dead end roads.

 

[Angel Who Cares]

:wave: JenniferO Welcome to WS's! Thanks so much for for your input & helping us all out with the visuals in the area. We all appreciate you helping us out in any way possible. Hope to have you post with us more & we all pray that Lindsey is found soon!

:angel:

 

[Angel Who Cares]

NEW VIDEO: Missing since Friday
http://www.nwcn.com/video/index.html?nvid=376539

:angel:

 

[JenniferO]

Distracted, You are welcome and thank you for the welcome.

Scandi, I don't know anymore than what has been posted on this forum about her. I first noticed her posts on King5.com and decided to do a google search on her to see if I could find out any info. That search led me here. I will see if I can find out any information via local sources and get back to you.

Angel who cares, Thank you. While I haven't been able to go search or help out in person I have being praying for her safe return. I hope they find something soon.

 

[STEADFAST]

Jennifer,
Scandi's brought up a good point. There are probably other routes in that town besides the main streets. I lived in WA State for a few years and noticed that it is customary there to have alleys behind all the houses. Do you know if the alleys in McCleary run east/west or north/south? If Lindsey cut off to take an alley, it might explain why she might not be seen on a residencial street or caught on the camera at the Shell Station. It would open up where she could have gotten to without being seen.

 

[distracted]

This is new, at least to me -

http://www.king5.com/topstories/stories/NW_070109WAB-mccleary-KS.260ea8b9.html

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Lindsey's mom said she voluntarily took a polygraph test to assure police and people in town that she had nothing to do with her daughter's disappearance.

"I want everyone to know she's missing and I have no idea where she is," Lindsey said.

Investigators say both Lindsey's mom and the father of the friend at the home where Lindsey had just left have both voluntarily taken - and passed - polygraph tests, and they are not considered suspects.

 

[jnTexas]

This is new, at least to me -

http://www.king5.com/topstories/stories/NW_070109WAB-mccleary-KS.260ea8b9.html

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Lindsey's mom said she voluntarily took a polygraph test to assure police and people in town that she had nothing to do with her daughter's disappearance.

"I want everyone to know she's missing and I have no idea where she is," Lindsey said.

Investigators say both Lindsey's mom and the father of the friend at the home where Lindsey had just left have both voluntarily taken - and passed - polygraph tests, and they are not considered suspects.

Wonder why Kara didn't?

 

[distracted]

Wonder why Kara didn't?

I thought that was odd, too. Hopefully, she is scheduled to take one.

 

[Amster]

This is new, at least to me -

http://www.king5.com/topstories/stories/NW_070109WAB-mccleary-KS.260ea8b9.html

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Lindsey's mom said she voluntarily took a polygraph test to assure police and people in town that she had nothing to do with her daughter's disappearance.

"I want everyone to know she's missing and I have no idea where she is," Lindsey said.

Investigators say both Lindsey's mom and the father of the friend at the home where Lindsey had just left have both voluntarily taken - and passed - polygraph tests, and they are not considered suspects.

hmmmm....no mention of Kara....

 

[JenniferO]

I'm trying to remember, Jennifer lives in about the center of Birch.

Birch sits on a hill over looking McCleary and between Pine and Mommesen there are no alleys that I can picture that run east and west. (I talked to my daughter who walked from Jennifers house to the Shell station not even a month ago. She said they took Birch to Mommesen and she doesn't remember there being any alleys/short cuts. I'm sure if there was then they would have taken those)
I do know there is an alley between Birch and First (running North and South) because that is how Jennifer and her husband (and all the neighbors) get to their garage.

I believe it's the same way between First and Second. I don't know about between Second and Third though.

 

[CarrieBean]

Great post Carrie. Last night TakeNote commented the abuse Lindsay told Marilyn about could have been anything and not necessarily sexual. It could have been the brother being too violent towards her. After all he went to Juvi for something. IMO

I don't think I've read any posters here who are close to the case. Just a few who live in McCleary or within 20 miles of it.

Right, it could be anything with the brother. It may have even been some physical altercations as far as Lindsey was concerned. I have two teenagers who some days I would love to just stick in a boxing ring together. Some days, one of them crosses the line. I have on more than one occasion threatened them with calling the police and laying assault charges. They're not 'bad' kids but at times did dumbass things. It's something so many siblings have been going through for decades, but is now completely socially unacceptable (because parents are no longer legally able to deal with things their way? dunno). So many kids were not in Juvi 30 years ago. Kids, for the most part' listened to their parents back then.

But then again, society is so different these days, kids (in Canada anyway) get nothing but a slap on the wrist. Here it has to be either something very serious or continual to be sent to a Juvenile centre.

I mentioned not changing my view due to someone close to the investigation being here because I saw someone had asked about Kara (later confused for her daughter?) coming to the forum. Been on other threads where people suddenly walk on eggshells due to this. That's not what this message board is for.

 

[scandi]

All those people who called Greg a for not being there.

He's to be deployed. Poor guy.

Hi again, It breaks my heart to think about that because I have a feeling Lindsay really missed her dad. So far away from her all because of that divorce.

Now I hope the US Government will give him a big leave to come back home and just be here for awhile to help in any way he can. Hopefully since we are de-escalating the war in Iraq that will be a simple thing to accomplish. xox

 

[JenniferO]

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BTW, This Mlachester who is Marilyn, do you know where she lives now? Thanks

husbands name is Fester Lachester and he has a picture on his Myspace showing the house numbers as being 343.

I googled his name and came up with
343 S First St
McCleary, WA 98557-9527

People living in the home was also Merilyn Lachester.

Who said they moved? Was it recent? Did I miss a post about it in the other thread (sorry, If I did) The info I'm getting on them was updated as of April 2009.

 

[boondock]

husbands name is Fester Lachester and he has a picture on his Myspace showing the house numbers as being 343.

I googled his name and came up with
343 S First St
McCleary, WA 98557-9527

People living in the home was also Merilyn Lachester.

Who said they moved? Was it recent? Did I miss a post about it in the other thread (sorry, If I did) The info I'm getting on them was updated as of April 2009.

It was KK that make a remark that she may have moved.

 

[JenniferO]

Sorry to keep posting random things but I keep getting more and more info.

Bing.com has much better arial view maps of Mccleary.

It shows there are alleys where I didn't think there was. I called Jennifer and she says those are pretty much overgrown, kids might walk through there (hers say they don't) but cars can not drive through them (explains why I didn't notice them)

 

[TripleA]

Can someone dig up a pick of Greg Baum and what service is he in?

 

[scandi]

so i dont have to go back....can someone give me the complete address for point A and B from the map?

the name and address of the video store
the name and address of the gas station

if known...the address to the neighbor who sent the brother home after the fight about the bike

the spot that was reported she was last seen by the women on her way to work

the neighbor in the news who commented that they had searched his yard like six times...and he says something about a creek that runs thru it

if i can get the info all on one page....that would make it better for me....if i can go and get video and pics with everything you all need.......i will be off line for a bit....its like 4:30 here....i would like to go before dark...but also be there at or close to the same time of the time frame she was last seen......

oh....and if someone/LE stops and ask's what the heck im doing....what should i say?

I had to pull up this post of TakeNote's because she mentions a neighbor who said LE have searched his property that has a creek about 6 times. I don't know what link that came from, but I think it is Sand Creek.

Is there anything we can learn more about this? We heard the 6x's yesterday which was 4 days into Lindsay being missing. I think that is allot of times to search one piece of property in such a short time. Why do they keep going back. There is something drawing them there.

I'm also a bit confused now about Kara. Is that KK who posts on SM? I thought Kara was the mother of Lindsay's friend she visited that night. :banghead:

 

[CarrieBean]

Having a really hard time catching up...

...did Kara say somewhere that Lindsey didn't take her normal route home? That she took some sort of shortcut? Curious if this was Lindsey's normal route home, or if not, how did Kara know this?