WA - Lindsey Baum, 10, McCleary, 26 June 2009 - #2

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SCANDI - you gave me some great information about tracking dogs the other night...do you know if chlorine and other pool chemicals alter/mask the scent of a child/person? TIA

Thanks for the nice words Eyes, We studied dogs intensly in the Madeleine McCann case.

I do know that a persons scent is made up of chemicals joined together, both their live and death scents, and they are individual, like a fingerprint. No two bodies are exactly the same as there are multitudes of variables that affect us. Like what we eat, illnesses, heredity, environment, and years of life with all the cumulative things that affect a body and change it, etc

I don't know, but I would venture a guess that the chlorine and whatever else is in pool chlorine would mess up someone's scent. I don't think the chlorine would alter the scent but would rather mask it. And there would be no difference I think re the age of the person. Just more scent like Bennet Cerf would say ;}

I'll go try and Google it!
 
  • #702
I was just looking at WK's myspace page, and it's unusual in that there's not one mention of Lindsey being missing. Usually, people close to a case like this have some kind of message and their friends often change their avatars to a missing poster. There are also usually messages of moral support like, "How are you doing?" But, no, there are "Happy Birthday" messages. I mean, this little girl practically disappeared from his house! Wouldn't it seem like finding her would be his main focus???

His mood is odd, too, "disappointed." He's logged on there right now.

Exactly!
I was thinking the exact same thing!!! :(
 
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Can you guys spell Kara's and Melissa's last name again for me please?
 
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I'm a guilty parent when it comes to letting my kids stay up as late as they want during the summer (not out running around but they can watch tv and stuff). And I don't know how many times my daughter would remember she left her DS, MP3 player, book or some other random object in the car and she needed it RIGHT NOW!

I have to add about the discussion about kids around Lindsey's age staying up late too! I don't see anything wrong with Lindsey being up at all during the summer or even on the weekends. As a mother & a grandmother I let my daughter stay up when she was that age, as well as my 11 yr old grandson & 10yr old granddaughter as well. To be honest it has always been in hope that they would sleep in for me! :crazy: Of course it hardly never worked with my daughter & the same with the grandkids! But no they were never out running around & they can play in the front yard with the neighboors till the streetlights come on. With supervision by an adult though when they do this....usually playing tag & typical kid games that all of us have played growing up.

I would never let them walk at that time of night even with a friend that distance ever....small, med., or large town.....it woudn't matter! I would walk them there myself or drive them there & to make sure an adult was home supervising them. It wouldn't matter what time of day either!

I am also gulity of staying up with them playing video games with them too! Not to mention :crossfinger:'s that I wear them out, so that I can play the games I want to without their input. :rolleyes:

My grandson has a myspace too, but it is on private & monitored by his mother & myself included. He really only has one or two friends & all of the rest are his mom, dad, aunts, uncles, cousins, & myself. He hardly ever checks it....we have to call him on his cell (yes he & my grandaughter both have a cells too!) to let him know we sent him a cute picture on special occasions. They both do talk about gf's & bf's for yrs already, but it is all totally innocent. The most they ever do, if you can call them having gf's or bf's, is saying hi to each other in the hallway at school, & the occasional silly phone calls to each other. All innocent if you ask me!

As far as Lindsey leaving without her cell though, is a big no no when it comes to them leaving the house, no matter what time of the day or where thery are going. They both know to call A.S.A.P. if they need anyone of us or to answer them A.S.A.P. if we call them.

The only problem with them having them though, is they tend to call grandma :angel: if they think mom or dad are being mean to them, & want me to yell at them for it! :wink:


Sorry this was being discussed a few pages back, but the subject's have been brought up numerous times over the last few days. (I'm sorry for being guilty of run on sentences....college degree & all, but English is my worst subject...not to mention math!:wino:)

I keep :praying: every time I check the media that I find good news & that Lindsey has been found safe & sound. The more days that have gone by now though, it is looking dim for this to be outcome. :shakehead:

Forgot to add he dosen't have a picture of him, on his MS for his hat or anywhere else....just some video game he plays. Not sure of the name of the one he plays....I just know it's not one that I like to play. LOL :biggrin: That was another rule for him too....even with it set on private. All friend request must be approved by his parents or myself too! Even if they are a friend from school....we check to see what they have on their's to make sure they are being monitored too!

:angel:
 
  • #705
I was just looking at WK's myspace page, and it's unusual in that there's not one mention of Lindsey being missing. Usually, people close to a case like this have some kind of message and their friends often change their avatars to a missing poster. There are also usually messages of moral support like, "How are you doing?" But, no, there are "Happy Birthday" messages. I mean, this little girl practically disappeared from his house! Wouldn't it seem like finding her would be his main focus???

His mood is odd, too, "disappointed." He's logged on there right now.

She was no where near his house. He is about as connected to her as I am. I know someone whose child knew Lindsey. His sisters daughter knew Lindsey. Yes his sister was one of the last people to see her but it still isn't directly connected to him. Know what I mean?

I don't find anything about his myspace odd personally (or at least in a way connected to this case).
 
  • #706
I was just looking at WK's myspace page, and it's unusual in that there's not one mention of Lindsey being missing. Usually, people close to a case like this have some kind of message and their friends often change their avatars to a missing poster. There are also usually messages of moral support like, "How are you doing?" But, no, there are "Happy Birthday" messages. I mean, this little girl practically disappeared from his house! Wouldn't it seem like finding her would be his main focus???

His mood is odd, too, "disappointed." He's logged on there right now.

but WK doesnt live at the address she had left. He may have been there, but I don't see LB as a friend of his on myspace...

I also think he's weird LOL And he is on my lil "hinky meter" but he could also have nothing to do with it and since he doesn't live within McCleary, maybe it's not something he feels affected by? I dunno... anywho...

Also... the Alice W profile... notice that all the apps that were added were added on Mondays...all a week apart... and the last login day was June 28th... she went missing June 26th. Since LB's Twilight profile is the only one showing under the friends, I was thinking maybe they (her and her friends) created it just to play with these apps. Again... I may be wrong but whoever set it up felt the need to make certain areas of that profile private (the pics-although there probably arent any)
 
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Sorry - all these dang rules to remember! That's another one. Asking for a PM or saying, "Hey, PM sent," is also against the rules.

I edited your quoted post above as an example.

Is it really???
How come?????
 
  • #710
Thanks for the nice words Eyes, We studied dogs intensly in the Madeleine McCann case.

I do know that a persons scent is made up of chemicals joined together, both their live and death scents, and they are individual, like a fingerprint. No two bodies are exactly the same as there are multitudes of variables that affect us. Like what we eat, illnesses, heredity, environment, and years of life with all the cumulative things that affect a body and change it, etc

I don't know, but I would venture a guess that the chlorine and whatever else is in pool chlorine would mess up someone's scent. I don't think the chlorine would alter the scent but would rather mask it. And there would be no difference I think re the age of the person. Just more scent like Bennet Cerf would say ;}

I'll go try and Google it!

Thanks for trying to get more info. I've googled it many times. I know bleach destroys DNA...I know chlorine destroys bacteria and fungi, so I'm wondering if chlorine and chemicals in a pool could alter scent. The reason: Lindsey was swimming that day...she must have been coated with chlorine. Maybe she took a shower..who knows but that may be a reason the dogs couldn't track her. just wondering as usual!

Also, I'm wondering what is on Lind street...are there woods or are there all homes along the block. TIA
 
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Thanks for trying to get more info. I've googled it many times. I know bleach destroys DNA...I know chlorine destroys bacteria and fungi, so I'm wondering if chlorine and chemicals in a pool could alter scent. The reason: Lindsey was swimming that day...she must have been coated with chlorine. Maybe she took a shower..who knows but that may be a reason the dogs couldn't track her. just wondering as usual!

Also, I'm wondering what is on Lind street...are there woods or are there all homes along the block. TIA


Did I miss info somewhere? What is with Lind Street? Where is Lind Street?
 
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but WK doesnt live at the address she had left. He may have been there, but I don't see LB as a friend of his on myspace...

I also think he's weird LOL And he is on my lil "hinky meter" but he could also have nothing to do with it and since he doesn't live within McCleary, maybe it's not something he feels affected by? I dunno... anywho...

Also... the Alice W profile... notice that all the apps that were added were added on Mondays...all a week apart... and the last login day was June 28th... she went missing June 26th. Since LB's Twilight profile is the only one showing under the friends, I was thinking maybe they (her and her friends) created it just to play with these apps. Again... I may be wrong but whoever set it up felt the need to make certain areas of that profile private (the pics-although there probably arent any)

Oh good grief! I thought he was KK's boyfriend/husband.
What are we looking at his blog for?


ETA Wait a minute. He's KK's brother??

PS Who is KK's boyfriend/husband?
 
  • #715
Oh good grief! I thought he was KK's boyfriend/husband.
What are we looking at his blog for?

LOL It's ok... he is KK's brother & a bodybuilder (astrology threads mention bodybuilding)
 
  • #716
You guys do know that Melissa has a facebook page too right?
It is private, but you can see her friends list.
There is one for Kara too w/ the her last name, but there is no pic on that one so i don't know if that's the same one of not.
I'm sure everyone knows this already, i just haven't seen anything really about facebook on here....only myspace....

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1563992432&hiq=melissa,pierpoint,baum
 
  • #717
Thanks for the nice words Eyes, We studied dogs intensly in the Madeleine McCann case.

I do know that a persons scent is made up of chemicals joined together, both their live and death scents, and they are individual, like a fingerprint. No two bodies are exactly the same as there are multitudes of variables that affect us. Like what we eat, illnesses, heredity, environment, and years of life with all the cumulative things that affect a body and change it, etc

I don't know, but I would venture a guess that the chlorine and whatever else is in pool chlorine would mess up someone's scent. I don't think the chlorine would alter the scent but would rather mask it. And there would be no difference I think re the age of the person. Just more scent like Bennet Cerf would say ;}

I'll go try and Google it!

Wondering about something else. We know that at least some of the dogs being used are from the Mountain Rescue team. Do we know which dogs were used for the search of Lindsey's path to & from K's?

Would there be a significant difference between LE's search dogs and those from the mountain rescue team?
 
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Did I miss info somewhere? What is with Lind Street? Where is Lind Street?

Sorry - Lindsey's street...wonder if the entire street is homes or are there woods around. TIA
 
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Collection of interesting possibly case related random crap I found:

http://www.thevidette.com/archives/05mar09/index.html
This one talks about a kindergarten teacher being investigated for something not good, didn't see where they said what the actual allegation was.
http://www.thevidette.com/archives/26mar09/index.html
More on teacher.
http://www.thevidette.com/archives/26feb09/index.html
Yet more on teacher, she is a female.

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The Montesano School Board voted Thursday, March 19, to accept the resignation of the teacher. On Feb. 6, the teacher allegedly restrained a special education student who had reportedly hit a fellow student so that that student could hit the restrained student back.
http://www.thevidette.com/archives/26mar09/index.html

Even though I think if she did this it was very wrong, it doesn't sound like it indicates that she would have anything to do with Lindsey's disappearance any more than anyone else would.
 
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