WA - Lindsey Baum, 10, McCleary, 26 June 2009 - #4

[Angel Who Cares]

FYI: I don't know if everyone knows this or not, but on Monday I posted all articles, video's & photo's for Lindsey's case, from the start to the recent one's in Lindsey's Media Thread. This will hopefully make things much easier to find article's for reference!

Here is the link to the Media thread for those who are new to WS's!
Media Links ONLY - no discussion
Media Links ONLY - no discussion - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community



I haven't finished catching up on the thread & I apologize if everyone is aware of this. I have also been starting the Daily Current News Media thread for each day's article's too!

2009.07.08 Today's Current News - ***NO DISCUSSIONS HERE PLEASE ***
2009.07.08 Today's Current News - ***NO DISCUSSIONS HERE PLEASE *** - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community


I apologize if everyone was aware that these threads are available now! I did the best I could starting with the oldest articles first, & worked my way to the newest in order. I hope this helps everyone to find any video or article quickly now!

:angel:

 

[concentric]

If A Closer Look is on the right trail (and I think you all agree there are some strong indications of that) and this proves to be true, the impact will be as great as finally arresting Dennis Rader aka BTK, IMO.

 

[elepher50]

If A Closer Look is on the right trail (and I think you all agree there are some strong indications of that) and this proves to be true, the impact will be as great as finally arresting Dennis Rader aka BTK, IMO.

You just jolted me outta my chair ... am awake now ... there is somewhat of a resemblance to D. Rader aka BTK.

 

[mysticrose]

Ok I started a theories thread for Lindsey..I hope it is ok with the Mods. It was my first time to start that...I was a little confused but what's new...lol..

 

[A_Closer_Look]

Hi folks

WW might end up being just a nice, helpful guy who is very involved in the communities where he resides, and the surrounding areas.
I understand that there are folks out there who think that digging up anything on him is a waste of time and on par with a witch hunt. I kind of felt that way too, at first.

But I'm seeing huge opportunities being open with his association with the youth groups and churches. Authority figure in at least JB's life. Listed as a family friend in the media. Seems to have a lot of properties spread out between the past and present, including at least one that I can't find listed anywhere other than a reference from himself. The only reason I don't link that reference by him is because it includes his phone number.

Now, if you look at the previously linked pictures on his flickr and the associated pics on there from the missionary, there are pictures being pulled off of there by somebody in the past 24 hours. Quite a few actually. I did not capture all of the photo's from there as life got busy for me yesterday and i had to take a break, but there's a whole section of pictures with the kids having a food fight and squirting each other... it's gone now. http://www.flickr.com/photos/watnews/

Again... there's no crime in updating ones pic site and removing/adding pics at will, but it's just one more thing to stack on the list of things I am finding strange about WW right now.

The opportunity in my opinion is unmatched by anyone we know to be a key player at this point.
The resources are there for a cover up/aftermath (familiar with the state forests, logging sites, wildlife and fish areas, multiple previous addresses and mentions of a northern property where he would go to fish but not stay there, etc...)
There's proof that at least one person close to this man wanted him to be ordered to stay away at one point (I know this really means nothing in the scheme of things as we do not know the circumstances surrounding this one)

I'm far from being ready to point any fingers in this case, but so far... I've had to replace my hinky meter's batteries several times while researching this one.

I have mentioned this one a few times in previous posts and this one. I will post a small clip of what I am talking about. Again, if I link it, it will come with his phone number, which is why I haven't. But he is the one who posted his number publicly, so I'm not sure where the line is drawn on that one. For now I will X out his number. The post is about him wanting to buy an old motor for a boat, I've snipped some of it. I just want to reference where I am getting Tonasket from.

...since I may end up leaving my boat at my property in Tonasket between fishing trips...

WW (full name is on post, I have initialized it)
xxxx

 

[scandi]

In 1996, I lived near the small town of Hanford, Calif. A little girl disappeared. There was a HUGE outpouring from the town...yellow ribbons on every telephone pole. They found her in a neighbor's backyard kiln. The killer was staying at the residence temporarily in a trailer parked in the driveway. Little Traci's last known whereabouts were at THAT house - no one suspecting that the visitor was her killer.

I just wanted to mention that - NO ONE can be ruled out as a suspect. I haven't thought of this case in a long time, but for some reason, it is pulling at me now.

Here's a link about the case (scroll down a bit) for anyone interested.

http://www.angelfire.com/nj4/savethechildren/COD6.htm

Thanks Kimster, I read that whole page. I noticed how all these missing children were found quite close by and relatively soon. If Lindsey met with ill fate I think it will be the same for her. xox

PS: Are you going to go to the Brooke Wilberger trial?

 

[scandi]

Hi A_Closer_Look, In looking at WW for taking Lindsey are there any situations where a child went missing at the same time he lived in her/his community?

That is why I classify him in the same category as WK as there is nothing we have learned about him being sexually overt to a child.

I do believe what the Astro thread has said in that they believe she was taken for sexual purposes {although I hope it was something else ;}

 

[scandi]

FYI: I don't know if everyone knows this or not, but on Monday I posted all articles, video's & photo's for Lindsey's case, from the start to the recent one's in Lindsey's Media Thread. This will hopefully make things much easier to find article's for reference!

Here is the link to the Media thread for those who are new to WS's!
Media Links ONLY - no discussion
Media Links ONLY - no discussion - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community



I haven't finished catching up on the thread & I apologize if everyone is aware of this. I have also been starting the Daily Current News Media thread for each day's article's too!

2009.07.08 Today's Current News - ***NO DISCUSSIONS HERE PLEASE ***
2009.07.08 Today's Current News - ***NO DISCUSSIONS HERE PLEASE *** - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community


I apologize if everyone was aware that these threads are available now! I did the best I could starting with the oldest articles first, & worked my way to the newest in order. I hope this helps everyone to find any video or article quickly now!

:angel:

Thanks so much for that Angel, It will make tracking back an article by date so much easier. I'm about to go find one from the 30th. LOL xox

 

[A_Closer_Look]

Hi A_Closer_Look, In looking at WW for taking Lindsey are there any situations where a child went missing at the same time he lived in her/his community?

That is why I classify him in the same category as WK as there is nothing we have learned about him being sexually overt to a child.

I do believe what the Astro thread has said in that they believe she was taken for sexual purposes {although I hope it was something else ;}

Thanks Scandi

I can't place him at any of the addresses at the same time of the disappearances of the children, no. Only at some point prior or after.

I definitely can't say that I think he had anything to do with this case yet, just that little flags are going up everywhere I look.

 

[scandi]

Thanks Scandi

I can't place him at any of the addresses at the same time of the disappearances of the children, no. Only at some point prior or after.

I definitely can't say that I think he had anything to do with this case yet, just that little flags are going up everywhere I look.

Yea, I understand. It makes COINKYDINK take on a whole new look, doesn't it. At least he is pretty well covered here, and bet he has a friend who reads the forums on Lindsey which is why those photos got deleted. Did those photos get posted anywhere?

I hope they have a big search effort this weekend with the BEAR FESTIVAL taking place in town. I am thinking that if anyone comes into town on a regular basis on a Fri nite this would vbe a good time for undercover cops to be on alert if they know who they are looking for and want to watch him in action. Ya Baby!

 

[Gailrene]

I'm not saying it's not unusual. I was just wondering what, if any events other than the bar being open to members that night, was going on at the VFW? Like you said-were there any classes, dances or meetings there that night like they do at the community center?

The VFW hall does not have a bar.

 

[eyes4crime]

Mark Klass has a newsletter out for Summer expressing his concerns about the 'Amber Alert' - I found it interesting...it's pdf

http://www.klaaskids.org/newsletters/Summer_2009.pdf

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Mark Klass has a newsletter out for Summer expressing his concerns about the 'Amber Alert' - I found it interesting...it's pdf

http://www.klaaskids.org/newsletters/Summer_2009.pdf

Thanks! I will go post this on the Marc Klaas/Amber Alert Revision thread. I could not agree more with Marc on the subject.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

The VFW hall does not have a bar.

Is it BYOB then?

 

[scandi]

Is it BYOB then?

 

[A_Closer_Look]

Mark Klass has a newsletter out for Summer expressing his concerns about the 'Amber Alert' - I found it interesting...it's pdf

http://www.klaaskids.org/newsletters/Summer_2009.pdf

He nails it in my opinion. If there is ever a time to pull out all stops, tap all resources and alert everyone, it's when a child is missing. It's one of the only times I can think of where all concerns of time and money should go out the window. Of course, that's easy for me to say...

 

[A_Closer_Look]

I wonder if the person who saw Lindsey walking home on Maple, might have beeped at her and waved? Perhaps the beep caused someone else to glance from somewhere else, (a parking lot on the other side of the rail? A nearby house?) and notice Lindsey walking alone...?

 

[A_Closer_Look]

Does anyone know if Evergreen Christian Community in McCleary owns or is affiliated with Evergreen Mortuary & Cremation in nearby Aberdeen?

http://www.funeralhomesguide.com/Washington/Aberdeen/EvergreenMortuaryAndCremation.html

TIA

 

[charminglane]

Is it BYOB then?

Okay. The-hall itself-does not have a bar. Does the VFW have a canteen? (Bar for Members)

 

[Gailrene]

I'm trying to remember if they allow alcohol to be brought in to the building. I've been there for quite a few events. I think you can bring a bar in, but it doesnt have one and it's not staffed like the Elk's club or that type of thing. It's mostly a rec hall used for community events like someone said earlier.