WA - Lindsey Baum, 10, McCleary, 26 June 2009 - #4

[Fairy1]

In the Neveah Buchanan case I started digging on some of these SO's who had failed to register, and it was scary how many times they had failed. Pretty much everytime they moved to a new location, they ignored the laws governing them and the guidelines of their releases. It scares the hell out of me that this happens so often... I have a 2 year old and I just don't look at people the same anymore. It's a shame
People approach us at the market and tweak his cheek and say things like "omg how cute is he?????" and all I can think of is... get away from my angel until I clear you!

How sad is that

I'm a tainted father now.

Tainted, no. Careful, yes. It's sad to have to be so suspicious, but necessary.....obviously. You just keep that little baby boy safe. That is your job!

When my son was a baby (17 now), store cashiers would take him right out of the cart to kiss his chubby little cheeks! Even then I was on my guard and that was looooooooooong before I was a member of WS!!!!

 

[CajunGirl]

well, maybe it's possible that the same lil girl and older man that was seen on the quad is the same lil girl and older man seen in Costco... whether it's LB or not...it could be the same... maybe they were buying meat to grill or BBQ...maybe stocking up if they were going to be staying in the woods for quite some time...

sad to say it but it's very possible. Where is Costco?

 

[Gailrene]

This would have been on 6/27/09?

Yes, from what she said, the day after Lindsey disappeared.

 

[McCleary]

The closest Costco is in Tumwater...but there's another one in Hawk's Prairie (east of Lacey along I-5). The Tumwater one is the most likely as it's not very far from many entrances to Capitol Forest especially in the area of Littlerock.

 

[Gailrene]

well, maybe it's possible that the same lil girl and older man that was seen on the quad is the same lil girl and older man seen in Costco... whether it's LB or not...it could be the same... maybe they were buying meat to grill or BBQ...maybe stocking up if they were going to be staying in the woods for quite some time...

sad to say it but it's very possible. Where is Costco?

That could very well be. It could be a little girl who looks like Lindsey. I can't imagine her kidnapper being so brazen as to take her into a Costco...but who knows? There is a Costco in Tumwater.

 

[mommyofthreekidz5]

http://forensicastrology.blogspot.com/

Can anyone take a look at this and see if anything rings a bell ? Thanks . I saw it and IF it could possibly be helpful, I wouldn't want it missed . Thanks .

 

[CajunGirl]

One other thing...the myspace situation.

LB had a cellphone...most have phones to text nowadays (im a textaholic) ... my plan has unlimited texting, pic mail, video msg & internet. I check my myspace from my cellphone quite a bit when im in bed and dont feel like getting my laptop or going to the computer. Some of the early morning times showing could very well be from her cell phone. Again...I don't know what kind of service she has but its a possibility.

LB's mom very well could have deleted the guest account or LB's account from the computer. It doesn't seem that Josh has a myspace and maybe that is because their mom really did block it and so forth. I know KK said that she monitored the myspace usage and such because the computer is right next to her BUT...I don't fully believe I would allow my 10 yr old to write "i may be small but ill kick ur a$$" or something along those lines in the "about me" section... and I just went look to get the exact wording and guess what ? it's gone now... so undoubtedly, it was not "supervised" well before and she had her go in and remove it... profile was last updated 7/1/09 at 329pm.

just my two cents...

 

[not_my_kids]

Sorry if it's already here, I found the calendar for the Evergreen Christian Center in Olympia, they do midweek meeting in McCleary every Tuesday.
That's the church that both LB and WW are associated with, right?
http://www.ecconline.cc/ecconline/calendar.php

 

[scandi]

One other thing...the myspace situation.

LB had a cellphone...most have phones to text nowadays (im a textaholic) ... my plan has unlimited texting, pic mail, video msg & internet. I check my myspace from my cellphone quite a bit when im in bed and dont feel like getting my laptop or going to the computer. Some of the early morning times showing could very well be from her cell phone. Again...I don't know what kind of service she has but its a possibility.

LB's mom very well could have deleted the guest account or LB's account from the computer. It doesn't seem that Josh has a myspace and maybe that is because their mom really did block it and so forth. I know KK said that she monitored the myspace usage and such because the computer is right next to her BUT...I don't fully believe I would allow my 10 yr old to write "i may be small but ill kick ur a$$" or something along those lines in the "about me" section... and I just went look to get the exact wording and guess what ? it's gone now... so undoubtedly, it was not "supervised" well before and she had her go in and remove it... profile was last updated 7/1/09 at 329pm.

just my two cents...

Hi Cajun, I read from KaraK that Lindsey couldn't access her MS from her cell phone. She didn't say that Lindsey's mom deleted her MS account but rather blocked it and then deleted all usernames out of the system, leaving only her own password of which Lindsey didn't have knowledge.

Either pretty rude or Lindsey spent way too much time on it, don't you think?

 

[not_my_kids]

The WW that was the Biologist handling Forest Practices for Grays harbor County, address in Montesano, is that the same WW that has been raising eyebrows all evening?

http://wdfw.wa.gov/hab/ahb/identify/search.php?searchby=Region&search=Region 6

 

[not_my_kids]

Pic of biologist WW.
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/398845_scoutsfolo05.html

 

[CajunGirl]

Hi Cajun, I read from KaraK that Lindsey couldn't access her MS from her cell phone. She didn't say that Lindsey's mom deleted her MS account but rather blocked it and then deleted all usernames out of the system, leaving only her own password of which Lindsey didn't have knowledge.

Either pretty rude or Lindsey spent way too much time on it, don't you think?

to be honest... LB seems to be pretty swift with using myspace. She's created multiple accounts and set some to private and some not...etc. She may have 100 email addresses for all we know and could have 100 different myspace accounts. If her mom only deleted myspace accounts, she only deleted what she knew of. Undoubtedly that wasn't enough because LB still had at least 2 that she used and you could find them by simply putting her name into the find friends field.

My myspace ... says I live in 90210 Although it was my fav tv show as a teen LOL I live in New Orleans. My name is not linked to my myspace ...at all. The only way anyone can find it is if they know my email address or sift thru thousands of profiles set for 90210 zip code Also... on my profile itself, it says I live in Louisiana but it's a different setting. If you were searching, you would never find me. So, I feel as though LB could do the same thing if she had private pages she wanted no one to know about.

What it all boils down to is this...if LB's mom deleted "usernames", I'm going to think that means the Admin/Owner of the computer w/ a password. That would mean that LB couldn't get on the computer without her mom signing in first & then at that point, I'd say her mom didn't allow her to go to myspace. LB pretty much accessed it from elsewhere...friends homes.

 

[A_Closer_Look]

The WW that was the Biologist handling Forest Practices for Grays harbor County, address in Montesano, is that the same WW that has been raising eyebrows all evening?

http://wdfw.wa.gov/hab/ahb/identify/search.php?searchby=Region&search=Region 6

I had assumed so in my post, maybe I shouldn't have... perhaps they are not the same. I think they are though, with nothing to back that up but a hunch

 

[McCleary]

I had assumed so in my post, maybe I shouldn't have... perhaps they are not the same. I think they are though, with nothing to back that up but a hunch

Looking at the facebook site under that name would give me the same conclusion.

 

[getthetruth]

http://forensicastrology.blogspot.com/

Can anyone take a look at this and see if anything rings a bell ? Thanks . I saw it and IF it could possibly be helpful, I wouldn't want it missed . Thanks .

There is reference to possibly an older man and a mobile park. I have attached the following which is a mobile park for Seniors 55+ on the Elma-McCleary Rd.

http://www.co.grays-harbor.wa.us/gh_Parcel/Search/DetailParcel.asp?SrchParcelNo=180515240010&ABSeq=

 

[getthetruth]

The name of the mobile park is Forestview

 

[Gailrene]

I just want you all to know, I'm only telling you what I heard from people I trust who have first hand knowledge on the topic or areas that I myself know about. My intent is not to spread rumors or cause confusion. I just feel its important to leave no stone unturned and to get everything out there so it can be hashed out and we can all figure out if it means anything or not.
I agree with "McCleary" , there is a great deal of traffic coming in and out of McCleary on 108. About1/3 of the traffic coming through McCleary from 108 Friday thru Sunday is campers. Some headed to the ORV park from Shelton, Hoodsport or other northern towns. Some even come from Tacoma taking a bridge or ferry on a route that leads through Mason County to the Casino and on 108 to McCleary because it is a scenic drive. From McCleary they can head to Ocean Shores or to 101 to take the scenic route all the way to California. Looking at a map, I can see where you would get the impression that it wouldn't be a place to stop, because it is off the road a bit and the gas stations in Elma have easier acccess if you are coming or going on highway 8.
As to the question about Lindsey and the man in Costco, I'm assuming that IF that was Lindsey in Costco and in Capital forest, she is with that man of her own will OR she is too frightened to ask for help, because her captor could have told her he would hurt her family.(imo ) Like everything else we have heard that hasn't been proven...it could go one way or the other.
By the way, I've heard the psychic link talked about, but I can't find it. Can someone link it for me please?

 

[getthetruth]

I just want you all to know, I'm only telling you what I heard from people I trust who have first hand knowledge on the topic or areas that I myself know about. My intent is not to spread rumors or cause confusion. I just feel its important to leave no stone unturned and to get everything out there so it can be hashed out and we can all figure out if it means anything or not.
I agree with "McCleary" , there is a great deal of traffic coming in and out of McCleary on 108. About1/3 of the traffic coming through McCleary from 108 Friday thru Sunday is campers. Some headed to the ORV park from Shelton, Hoodsport or other northern towns. Some even come from Tacoma taking a bridge or ferry on a route that leads through Mason County to the Casino and on 108 to McCleary because it is a scenic drive. From McCleary they can head to Ocean Shores or to 101 to take the scenic route all the way to California. Looking at a map, I can see where you would get the impression that it wouldn't be a place to stop, because it is off the road a bit and the gas stations in Elma have easier acccess if you are coming or going on highway 8.
As to the question about Lindsey and the man in Costco, I'm assuming that IF that was Lindsey in Costco and in Capital forest, she is with that man of her own will OR she is too frightened to ask for help, because her captor could have told her he would hurt her family.(imo ) Like everything else we have heard that hasn't been proven...it could go one way or the other.
By the way, I've heard the psychic link talked about, but I can't find it. Can someone link it for me please?

Post #266 shows the following psychic linkhttp://forensicastrology.blogspot.com/

 

[chicoliving]

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[LaLaw2000]

Yes!

Now check out

Becky Van Gelder - Missing from Corvallis, Or in 2002 I think. (11 years old at the time)
Lydia Braschler-Varo - Missing from Mt. Vernon in 2001, 13 yrs old at the time.

This person has to be checked out by LE and the FBI because of the prior places he has lived in and girls in that specific age group came up missing. Even if he wasn't in the area at the time, he obviously knew of the area.

I have not read further than your post, A_Closer_look, so quite possibly someone will have already pointed this out to the authorities. This is big, IMO.