WA - Lindsey Baum, 10, McCleary, 26 June 2009 - #5

[concentric]

Wonder if LE can use the dogs to track his scent to determine where he was.

 

[Normcar21]

Lindsey is not yet dead my friends

 

[momtective]

He's a narly lookin' perv. eh?

To me he looks considerably mentally deficient, head is misshapen, ears are set very low, nose is huge for lack of a better word and his eyes are small and hollow looking. IMO this guy is defiantly not all there.

 

[eyes4crime]

I just want those homes checked out, I want to know that Lindsey is not sitting, all tied up, in some basement or closet, being raped nightly. I apologize for my goals

Normcar21: I have to say that walking into the home of a stranger is as dangerous as getting into a stranger's car. I share your frustration, but have come to realize not all LE are funded the same, nor do they have the same access to forensic and on the scene investigators. Many excellent ideas have come about from this Lindsey thread...those ideas should be called in to the FBI. mho

 

[Normcar21]

I do not believe that she is dead.

 

[scandi]

It would be really exceptional if someone could find MH, show him that photo, and get some sort of verification. However, that might be somewhat difficult "and" perhaps dangerous. I certainly hope that fella doesn't have anything to do with anything because he looks like some prehistoric mastadon. Scary stuff...

Is that the Realtor? I know there are always bad apples that sour the rest, but I am hoping this is not the Realtor.

Maybe that's why one of our posters could find no record of him now, today, being an active Realtor. I wonder if one can search the data base for the Dept of Commerce in Olympia to see if his license is still active.

If that has already been written about here I'm sorry as I must have missed it.

 

[Normcar21]

I believe that Lindsey is taking care of business, she is an individual, and she is able to handle her abductor (s)
I may be completely wrong, but I don't think that she was an easy abduction
I think she is still alive

 

[Normcar21]

She is playing chess with them

 

[Normcar21]

I hope I'm right and that this little girl is that manipulative

 

[momtective]

She is playing chess with them

I wish I could be so optimistic :sad:

 

[Normcar21]

and I'm sure that daddy will kiss her for being so wise

 

[momtective]

I hope I'm right and that this little girl is that manipulative

I hope you are right too. I pray she is a master manipulator! But with each passing hour her chances of survival decrease considerably. I wish they would find her NOW!

 

[scandi]

Virginia Sex Offender Detail
Registration ID
20646 Name
COLE, ERIC, JOHN
Sex Male
Race White
Age 55
Height 6 Feet 04 Inches
Weight 250 lbs
Hair Color Brown
Eye Color Brown
Palm Print Needed
Finger Print On File
Violent No

The page also states his last address was in Charlottesville, Va.
The picture is from May 28, 08. Gosh, he is a big guy!!!

:slap::

 

[Animal04216]

Let me make it very clear that WS forum is not going to be used to set up searches or any other investigations. If any of you do "search" you have to leave WS name out of it we do not encourage or condone anyone getting themselves physically involved in a case.

 

[mysticrose]

Is there a trap door in this forum..lol. Its real quite all of a sudden

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I'm not saying that this case has been handled in the best way and McCleary was in no way prepared for this. But, this is one of the hardest things about being a civilian observer. Observe is about all we can do. There are lines that we are not to cross as citizens and this is one of them.

Best case scenario, nothing would be learned, except that people that are on edge after weeks of the entire town living under a cloud of suspicion, do not like civilians with no authority asking to be allowed to search their homes. Worst case scenario, someone gets arrested for interfering in an investigation, or they do meet up with the person resposible and another person dies.

The hardest part is realizing that you have done all that you can. I don't advocate shoddy police work, but I don't advocate people placing themselves in harm's way, either.

I definitely agree! Talking to people you may meet on the street or in a public venue is entirely different than knocking on strangers' doors. This is unacceptable, imo. People are very defensive (understandably so) and for both sides, this is a very dangerous idea.

I want Lindsey home, too. The reason we are here is to come up with viable leads for LE to check out. It isn't different than if we were on a search team and came across what could be evidence. We stop and call in LE. We don't try to tag and bag it ourselves. Same goes for knocking on doors...we leave it to the professionals. We could damage their case in the long run if they find the perp. We don't want some jerk to get off on a technicality! It has to go "by the book".

Scouting out houses, checking out areas to search, pinpointing things like that old fridge JVK saw, and things along those lines are perfectly acceptable when boots are on the ground near the crime scene. You then hand your finds over to LE where they will pick it up from there.

ETA: I spent five minutes trying to say what Animal said in two lines. Go figure! LOL
Yeah...what she said!

 

[eyes4crime]

Probably too big and certainly bad! :slap::

I don't know about being bad but if I were a child and saw a huge man like him approaching me, I'd run like ****. We know Lindsey has empathy because of her love of animals, but this guy??? I think most children would go 'yikes..I'm out of here!'

 

[scandi]

To me he looks considerably mentally deficient, head is misshapen, ears are set very low, nose is huge for lack of a better word and his eyes are small and hollow looking. IMO this guy is defiantly not all there.

Oh, I should delete my post and my other little funny one

Except, If he is a drinker or has done a lot of drugs in his life it can burn the brain out. I know someone like that who has almost become childlike, and yet when he drinks he can be worse than an irate Amazon. When he talks he almost mumbles because he doesn't innunciate. And yet he still drinks.

We don't know if Eric C was born like this or became this way due to his lifestyle.

And the fact he is a SO and not mentally all there is the scariest thing, as who knows when he might get the urge and just act on it!

 

[SeriouslySearching]

One thing about kids...they have a built in creep alarm as a rule and especially kids of Lindsey's age group, imo. They use instinct more than adults do because their logic hasn't overpowered those instincts.

I think Lindsey's instincts would have told her to run like hell if she encountered a person who tripped her creep alarm and she would not have gotten in a car with them willingly. I believe this would include someone she knew. Of course, it is only my opinion.

 

[JenniferO]

Thanks McCleary, Re: Mr E Cole, in the notice it didn't give an address but mentioned Grays Harbor. Do you think they are being general and he was probably picked up in Aberdeen which is the County seat?

The reason I ask is I think there is also a little town called Grays Harbor closer to the coast. Could they have picked him up there or somewhere that was not in an incorperated city? Like out in the boonies?

Aberdeen is not the county seat. Montesano is. And when it says they were arrested in Grays Harbor county it means anywhere within the county lines.
There is no town called "Grays Harbor".