WA - Lindsey Baum, 10, McCleary, 26 June 2009 - #7

[Kimster]

I don't know, just shocked right now because of the name.

ME TOO!!!

 

[Beyond Belief]

The lady at the race place said "allen left a week ago" isn't that right?
awful close timing.

 

[elepher50]

A Hauff has been in some trouble before:

http://www.co.pierce.wa.us/cfapps/linx/calendar/GetCriminalCase.cfm?cause_num=94-1-03966-2

 

[STEADFAST]

The lady at the race place said "allen left a week ago" isn't that right?
awful close timing.

No, he was in jail in Spokane in April. Transferred to Olympia in July.

Oops, that's wrong. He was arrested in Spokane in Aug 2008. But the paper reported he was arrested in April in Olympia. The paper is dated in April, so unless they're psychic, he has been in jail since then. (Or out on bail???!!!)

 

[Mimiof8]

age 32; 120 days in jail with credit given for 23 days served, harboring of a minor and making a false statement.

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2008/dec/25/washington-records/?print-friendly

If you look at this it shows December 2008, released for time served of 23 days. So was he free basicly from January 2009 until July 10 2009?

 

[cyberswept]

Guys, got some news. Give me a few to type it up. Hold on, some interesting stuff, if true.

 

[McCleary]

A Hauff has been in some trouble before:

http://www.co.pierce.wa.us/cfapps/linx/calendar/GetCriminalCase.cfm?cause_num=94-1-03966-2

I wonder what he was in for that he escaped...but it looks like it might stem from juvenile charges because if it's the same guy, he would have been about 16 in 1994 (if I'm doing my math right...OT: I've been doing physics homework for a couple hours so real math is kind of a stretch right now )

 

[Beyond Belief]

He was only 17 during that 94 thing.

 

[scandi]

Maybe I've been looking at too many cases where there were hinky people all around -- so many to look at and figure out which one might have hurt the victim. In this case, there's no one obvious to look at. I'm just going in circles: stranger?/local?/stranger?/local?

I don't want to impugn the probably wonderful people on Larson, but do you think there may have been a brother or uncle or someone who came into town to take the caretaker job, maybe stayed at the hof house?

Stranger?/Local? STEADFAST, I read Steve Huff's column in his blog last week and found myself thinking of this case. It hit home and we still don't know skat about what has really happened here. It was about a 34 year old COLD CASE that was finally solved and the man was convicted of this little 9 yr olds murder last week. Simply amazing!

The case went unsolved because the local boys felt this little one knew her perp and he was local.

There was a man who walked around allot, here and there, and he was investigated as one officer thought he could be the man. Nope, they didn't really delve into him because they thought he wasn't someone from town she would have known.

He was the guy who killed her and DNA proved it in 2007.

It tickles the back of my brain thinking it could be something like that with Lindsey, even though more possibly someone who really only came into town once a week on a Fri nite to relax and let off some steam

COULD BE. Maybe she didn't know him or of him but he knew who she was. Or he was a perfect stranger who stopped, offered her a little puppy he couldn't keep and told her they had to go back and get his little bed and toys!

and Just thinkin'

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I can't wait until they invent a website that the posts just magically appear as you sit here instead of hitting the darned refresh or new post button constantly!! It would make our lives so much easier.

Did I mention patience is not one of my virtues?! LOL

 

[cyberswept]

Ok guys, where to begin. First I am going to report what I was told today and how it came about. It's up to you as to whether you take it as hearsay or not. However, I believe this person for what that is worth.

My 5 year old was playing with the 5 year old next door today. His sister came over and was talking to my wife earlier and mentioned Lindsey's case. So later this evening I caught up with her and couldn't resist asking questions. Here are the details of what we talked about.

First, the person I talked to is an 11 year old schoolmate and friend of Lindsey. We'll call her Shel.

She confirmed that Lindsey goes to McCleary School with her and that she has gone there the whole time she has lived here.

- Some information edited here for privacy -

Shel has been told that Lindsey's sweatshirt jacket and a flipflop of hers was found, but not reported in the media. They were not found together. The jacket was a little ways from the flipflop that was found in some bushes behind the shell station. From where the flipflop was found was just about in sight of Lindsey's home and they speculated that she was being chased and lost the flipflop while trying to hide from someone. The sweatshirt jacket may have come off during a schuffle. (My opinion).

So then I asked: Do they have any suspects? She said they had 1 local that is a person of interest. She didn't have a name, darn it. So then I asked if he was a SO. She said no, but he had been arrested for drunk driving 5 times. (Sound like anyone we know?)

I also asked her about the pool. Shel said the pool she was in that day was just a kiddy pool and they were all just playing and splashing. She has seen the pool. If that is the case, then chlorine would not have been an issue.

Lindsey's relationship with her father only started recently. She mentioned she hadn't seen her father in 10 years which would be pretty much her whole life. She mentioned she did get to see her father not too long ago, but whether he was here or she went there wasn't clear.

I asked if Lindsey ever talked about the ORV park, or riding motorcycles and she said she never mentioned it or knew of her being associated with that.

As of work being done off of tips, she said they have been searching peoples basements and searching the wooded areas around more. More like spot checking though. She mentioned that airplanes have been searching over the area too. Although I haven't heard but maybe one recently.

Shel has been over to Lindsey's before and gave me some interesting info on the Lindsey's brother, however, I don't know since he is a juvenile, what I can report here. She told me about his behavior and some of his threats that she has been witness too. She says the brother scares her.

She mentioned there have been reports that Lindsey was located. Once in some sewer and then another location, but they proved to be false. However, that could have triggered some LE activity and might explain some of that.

I wanted to ask her more, but felt I had gotten a lot from her and wanted to report to my websleuth friends.

 

[scandi]

G'nite scandi.

I"m not quite headed to bed yet, ;}

What was that in Olympia you found, Hauff? The link doesn't work. xox

 

[cyberswept]

I can't wait until they invent a website that the posts just magically appear as you sit here instead of hitting the darned refresh or new post button constantly!! It would make our lives so much easier.

Did I mention patience is not one of my virtues?! LOL

Sorry SS, typed it up as quickly and succinctly as I could. Had a honey do list to complete before I could get on tonight. :doh:

Just wanted to catch any of you that might be leaving, that I had some info.

 

[STEADFAST]

Very interesting, cyberswept!

One thing that puzzles me, though. The thing about the flip-flops. The Amber Alert or missing alert or whatever it was and all the missing sites say Lindsey was wearing sneakers.

 

[Kimster]

WOW Cyber! I don't even know what to say yet!

 

[Beyond Belief]

Geez, thank you for the insight. i don't know what to believe. does an 11 year old really know what an SO is?
anyway thanks, it puts the ball over on Lindseys side of the street which seems more realistic.

 

[boondock]

Very interesting, cyberswept!

One thing that puzzles me, though. The thing about the flip-flops. The Amber Alert or missing alert or whatever it was and all the missing sites say Lindsey was wearing sneakers.

I believe they were slip on type sneakers, maybe that could be considered flip-flop-ish

 

[Beyond Belief]

I"m not quite headed to bed yet, ;}

What was that in Olympia you found, Hauff? The link doesn't work. xox

try allen d. "" in olympia in anywho

 

[McCleary]

I'm kind of wondering how they could have kept finding the sweatshirt and flipflop (if it's even Lindsey's) out of the media the way they were concentrated in town like they were...especially if it was found along Lindsey's street.

 

[Kimster]

I'm putting myself back at age 11 and remember that was when the Manson murders occurred. Man, was I scared! My friends and I talked about it a lot. We had some of the facts mixed up - discovered that a decade later when I read Helter Skelter.

Did you ask where Shel heard the info?