WA - Lindsey Baum, 10, McCleary, 26 June 2009 - #8

[cyberswept]

I agree. It sounds odd but he is either an idiot and doesn't realize the internet activity is traceable or it is someone else just messing around (that is always possible in my opinion) but I felt it was something that needed to be brought to the LEs attention. I gave them the info and I'll let them sort it out.
I would hate to have the info, not tell the LEs and find out later that he had something to do with it.

Yes, LE should have the info. I totally agree. I was merely pointing out how unlikely this is.

 

[not_my_kids]

He must also be some sort of nut job too then. What fool leaves cryptic messages on the guestbook of a missing girl that can be traced back to him? Literally pointing a finger at himself? As I have said before, this whole case don't make a whole lot of sense.

See if you follow me here. This guy Adam, gets away with a 10 year old girl clean, no clues, no witnesses and nothing at all that would lead to him being the perp. Then is fool enough to post on her guestbook? I am not buying this. Somebody somewhere is feeding us herrings.

Dennis Rader was a nut job that taunted the police and the local papers. ANd he got away with his murderous rampage for quite a while.

Keith Jesperson, same thing.

Albert Fish sent a letter to his victims family, describing what he did and how much he enjoyed it.

Sometimes that bad guy really is the obvious nutcase.

 

[not_my_kids]

Please be careful with those medications, because they also have dangerous physical effects, and especially when combined with other medications.

:square:
(Just loving you.)

I know that now. I just figured if there was a possibility of an interaction that the doc or the pharmacy would have caught it. Nope, no one said a word. So I am changing doctors and then we'll start the medication merry go round again.:banghead:

 

[LaLaw2000]

I'd say KK is one of the most likely to know what happened to Lindsey. She's the last confirmed adult to be with Lindsey and her stories vary.

KK has been on my radar from the beginning. It was her various changing versions of the story. She has been out and about to the point where I wonder how much time she can spend with her own children. She has also been a very prolific writer/blogger in this case. I would like to know much more about her. It is my understanding that she has lived in McCleary only a matter of months.

ETA: KK and also the mysterious ML who stated that Lindsey had been at her house and was having problems with her brother are on my radar.

I have read every day here, but just do not post very often. All of you are doing such a great job. About LE and FBI silence - I think they may have an idea of who may be involved but cannot and will not jeopardize Lindsey's case. JMO

 

[cyberswept]

Dennis Rader was a nut job that taunted the police and the local papers. ANd he got away with his murderous rampage for quite a while.

Keith Jesperson, same thing.

Albert Fish sent a letter to his victims family, describing what he did and how much he enjoyed it.

Sometimes that bad guy really is the obvious nutcase.

True and I won't disagree with you. However, we live in a world where communication on the Internet is highly traceable. Not like a phone call from a phone booth or anonymous letters. Even with masking, IP hopping, proxies, they can still be traced back to their origin with diligent work. It's like leaving bread crumbs back home.

Also none of the above mentioned dirtbags used their real names when contacting LE. If an SO wants the freedom to do more predatory work, he does not shed light on himself. No matter how crazy these guys are, they are only thinking of themselves and their preservation, to protect themselves from being caught. Unless, they are truly psychotic. So I merely point out that this Adam guy is a highly unlikely suspect in my book, given the known facts.

Until proven otherwise, the only scenario that fits all the facts point to a LE officer, a relative or acquaintance. If I am proven wrong with new facts, I will relent.

 

[cyberswept]

KK has been on my radar from the beginning. It was her various changing versions of the story. She has been out and about to the point where I wonder how much time she can spend with her own children. She has also been a very prolific writer/blogger in this case. I would like to know much more about her. It is my understanding that she has lived in McCleary only a matter of months.

When I spoke with her. She told me she has lived here 7 months and the Baums have lived here about 2 years.

 

[jvk]

Here's some random links i've been poking around with, also been using Google Earth a bit to look north.

http://www2.census.gov/geo/www/bas/bas09/st53_wa/cou/c53045_mason/BAS09C25304500000_021.pdf (bottom center)

http://www2.census.gov/geo/www/bas/bas09/st53_wa/inc_plc/p5341225_mccleary/BAS09P15300041225_001.pdf

http://www2.census.gov/geo/www/bas/bas09/st53_wa/cou/c53027_grays_harbor/BAS09C25302700000_029.pdf

http://www.ghcog.org/zoning/McCleary_Zoning_Mar08.pdf

http://www.google.com/search?q="bear+valley+skyranch+airport"&hl=en&num=100&filter=0

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sou...14,-123.269005&spn=0.014174,0.027595&t=h&z=15

I wouldn't mind swinging through that triangular community near Larson/Lynch & McCleary-Summit Rd.

There's actually a few roads in a variety of directions around there i wouldn't mind going through.

 

[scandi]

Okay, wait a minute.
I am quite sure I've seen enough Forensic Files, and Last 48, and heck, even Unsolved Mysteries (for those of you my age) to know that these 'last sightings' are the first thing that comes under suspicion, with their 'seers'.

Well, second, after the family. But you know what I mean. I've been itching to take apart KK's statements, but really she's least likely to know what happened to Lindsey. Right?

How can it be that we don't know who these two 'last seen' witnesses are?

I so agree with you Jennifer. I know there's a thread for her and don't even know what we can discuss that she has said that hasn't been written in the media. I have read that posters somewhere else have had thoughts about her changing stories and that she does read here.

I've been here thru so many cases to learn that inconsistent and changing statement throw up red flags and one can't take any of that info for fact. If we could on the proper thread disect her statements and compare them side by side it would be very interesting.

I've said before there is something about her. It isn't COINKYDINK IMO that our two great photographers, each in conversation with her, were either stopped or being watched from afar by the powers that be! That just couldn't be coincidence!

I have to go to work and if anything I have written is inappropriate I hope the Mod will edit it for acceptibility. Thanks


I think the vigil thread will be a constructive way for us to help Lindsey. Positive thoughts centered on her will be meaningful. I know a top notch scientist has proven this method does work with mind to mind contact in healing ilness. Maybe it can help a little girl find her way home if she is still alive. xoxoxoxo

 

[not_my_kids]

http://www.familywatchdog.us/ShowNa...ers.sitegadgets.com/cassidyred/guestbook.html

Has this supposed Hoodsport sighting been covered yet?

Link broken. Trying to fix.

OK, Lindseybaum.com, scroll to bottom of first page, click view my guestbook and within the first few entries, there is a person claiming to have a Lindsey sighting. Sounds like crap to me, but thought I'd post it anyway.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

He must also be some sort of nut job too then. What fool leaves cryptic messages on the guestbook of a missing girl that can be traced back to him? Literally pointing a finger at himself? As I have said before, this whole case don't make a whole lot of sense.

See if you follow me here. This guy Adam, gets away with a 10 year old girl clean, no clues, no witnesses and nothing at all that would lead to him being the perp. Then is fool enough to post on her guestbook? I am not buying this. Somebody somewhere is feeding us herrings.

After you have been on here long enough, you will realize there is no end to their stupidity. :doh: Right now in the Coleman case, people are floored that LE could easily trace back the threats towards his family to his own computer and he was head of security for a major ministry worth millions plus. He should have known better being so tech savy, but he did it anyway.

A sociopath truly believes they are smarter than everyone else. It is not unheard of for the perp to find some way to insert himself/herself into the case. Some show up to search, some contact the family to "share their grief", and some will make media statements right n left. It is bizarre to say the least, but it happens.

 

[eyes4crime]

When I spoke with her. She told me she has lived here 7 months and the Baums have lived here about 2 years.

Hi cyberswept! I thought this was Lindsey's first year in school in McCleary...before this she went to school in Elma. Gosh, I can't seem to keep anything straight in this case...so many different versions of EVERYTHING!

 

[distracted]

It disturbs me that the brother's only alibi is his mother...how many times has a scenario arisen where a parent knows they have already lost one child and they refuse to lose both?
I wonder if maybe Mom didn't find something on that hour long search. If it implicated Josh, would she have turned it over? I doubt it. Especially if he asked him and he told her what had happened.

I just wonder, a lot. Brother had time, and from reports, the motivation, to harm his sister and MB had reason to help cover it up. It's the only thing that makes even a screwy kind of sense. I just can't believe in the idea of a random stranger off the freeway, I can't really see where anyone has pointed out a person in town that is acting differently, and with all the online chatter, some one would have talked if there was someone acting weird.

I wonder if they are so silent because the only suspect they have and the only person they are watching, is family and a juvenile.

I have thought this from the beginning but have felt guilty for thinking it. It does make sense. It would also explain why the bike was left behind the station for 2-3 days when J rode it constantly. I sincerely hope this is not the case but I have wondered.

 

[jvk]

Can some one site the source of the bike being behind station for 2-3 days? was it KK? (i missed this a while ago)

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Hi cyberswept! I thought this was Lindsey's first year in school in McCleary...before this she went to school in Elma. Gosh, I can't seem to keep anything straight in this case...so many different versions of EVERYTHING!

It is possible that if her mom does work in Elma, Lindsey could have gone to school there until this last year while living in McCleary. I would like a clarification tho.

 

[distracted]

Can some one site the source of the bike being behind station for 2-3 days? was it KK? (i missed this a while ago)

I'll try to find it. I'm thinking I heard it from one of the interviews that MB gave to Nancy Grace.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Can some one site the source of the bike being behind station for 2-3 days? was it KK? (i missed this a while ago)

This is on the Brother And The Bike Fight thread, but Distracted didn't cite a source for the mother reporting it.:

Originally Posted by distracted
The story is that they argued over who would take the bike home on the way to her friend's house. J did not want to push it back and she didn't want to push to her friend's and back home so they left it behind the Shell station. Her mother reports that the bike was not retrieved for 2-3 days.

 

[jvk]

It just seems odd like why the hell would LE not be picking that up on day 1

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I totally agree with you, JVK. (This discussion should probably move over to the Bike thread tho.)

 

[LotsaLatte]

Ok, on a whim I entered [email protected] (the email address of the weird posts on Lindseys guestbook) into Myspace search and came up with a hit.
http://www.myspace.com/456403334

That is telling me that the email address is real (how do I know? In order to register a Myspace account you have to have access to the email account to confirm the Myspace account).

So... [email protected] is a real email address.

Good job finding this! This guy hasn't logged in to this account since February of this year. I bet he has another account on MS as well. Not sure. He may just be being annoying and twisted if he is the rso and posting on LB's guestbook. That would really tick me off to find out that is the case! ARGGHH!

 

[eyes4crime]

I totally agree with you, JVK. (This discussion should probably move over to the Bike thread tho.)

SS - is it the protocol of this site to not discuss on the main thread? I'm wondering why every topic has to be moved to a separate thread...that leaves very little room for integration of thoughts. If this is how it's done, then please forgive my question...and if this is how it's done, please inform me as to why. TIA...