WA - Mackenzie Cowell, 17, Wenatchee, 9 Feb 2010 - #2

[Salem]

I think CR was helping her attacker if that makes sense? So I think that CR would have not known mackenzie real well but knew her attacker and was an alliance. I really dont know though.

I think this is interesting..... why do you suppose CR might have been helping and who or what kind of person do you think he was helping? That two men attacked Mackenzie seems a stretch to me, because she was not sexually assaulted. That doesn't mean it didn't happen, it just seems odd, kwim?

Salem

 

[Cosmictadpole]

I'm still reading - just haven't had anything new to say... Though I do find it interesting that this CR has come up again, as I remember the initials being mentioned quite a bit earlier here. I disregarded them because there were so many initials and theories being thrown out, and nothing that I read at the time about the CR initials popped out at me. But now I'm wishing I could remember where it was because I want to go back and read it more carefully!

Does anyone else remember these initials coming up before? Krista, are you the one who wrote earlier about a CR? If so, can you please remind me how far back in the thread it is? If not, am I remembering wrong?

 

[Cosmictadpole]

I think this is interesting..... why do you suppose CR might have been helping and who or what kind of person do you think he was helping? That two men attacked Mackenzie seems a stretch to me, because she was not sexually assaulted. That doesn't mean it didn't happen, it just seems odd, kwim?

Salem

It could be that CR may have helped after the fact - covering up the crime or helping to move a car or place the body where it was found. Or he could even have been present and not done anything to stop the murder. If this was the case, LE could be using the charges against him to pressure him to turn in the actual murderer.

 

[chevygirl]

Chevygirl - I haven't read all the pages yet - but please edit your post and take out the name. If this guy is Mackenzie's boyfriend he is under age and we can not post his name here. I have edited the name in your post that I am quoting.

Thanks,

Salem

Did you already take them out or do I still need to do that? sorry I didn't know if that was okay or not because the name was mentioned before, my bad.

 

[chevygirl]

I have a cousin who knows this CR guy and was told personally that he was taken in for questioning. I've been told a construction worker was trying to get back at her dad and they think he had someone to help him. So I dont think this CR guy was a construction worker, I've been told the guy trying to get back at her dad was. My cousin told me that this guy is good at breaking into things too.

 

[James Vic]

This is the call prior to them calling in Mackenzie’s abandoned car.



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10C01195 ASSIST AGENCY 19:12:35 02/09/10 HEGBERG MARK ACT

BURLINGTON NORTHERN & SANTA FE, RAILWAY CO

BNSF POLICE REQ LE TO CONTACT FEMALE SITTING ON THE TRAIN TRACKS, A TRAIN DID GO
BY RECENTLY & SHE GOT UP BUT RETURNED TO THE TRACKS, PER BNSF DO NOT BELIEVE
ANOTHER TRAIN IS SCHED TO GO THROUGH THERE ANYTIME SOON.
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10C01196 SUSPICIOUS 20:02:34 02/09/10 CORULLI DOUG ACT

We now know that Mackenzie was down at the park shortly after she left beauty school. One route from the park goes right by the BNSF offices. Does anyone know of a way to find out the address of the call?

 

[Salem]

Did you already take them out or do I still need to do that? sorry I didn't know if that was okay or not because the name was mentioned before, my bad.

You need to go back to your original post and edit it. I can't edit it for you.

If you don't know how, let me know and I'll walk you through it.

Salem

 

[ahsgramma]

I'm going to post initials on here because this guy isnt a minor. But from what I've heard and I know someone who knows this guy... look at the inmate list for a guy with the initials CR, this may be the guy you guys were talking about that failed a polygraph test... I heard he was in for questioning, (so I'm not sure if there was a polygraph test or if this is 110% true or not) like I said its just what i've heard. anyways I've heard he was let go, and now they have him back in there. also I've heard he drives a white truck. I hope I'm not saying to much? I've heard a little more, and have told the police what I've heard. I don't want to say to much because I don't want to interfere with what they may or may not have.

This is the same person I mentioned earlier that commented on one of the first articles. I thought it was completely out of character for him. IMO he would be capable of this. He shot at someone I know years ago but missed.

 

[chevygirl]

You need to go back to your original post and edit it. I can't edit it for you.

If you don't know how, let me know and I'll walk you through it.

Salem

Okay.. changed it to J is that okay?

 

[peacegirl]

Supposing for a moment this is a gang related case, maybe she was going thru part of a gang initiation stunt by sitting on the tracks, either willingly or unwillingly ????? If that is in fact her in the report.

 

[chevygirl]

This is the same person I mentioned earlier that commented on one of the first articles. I thought it was completely out of character for him. IMO he would be capable of this. He shot at someone I know years ago but missed.

Like others have said just because you think you know him you never know what people are capable of. Also, what did he say on the article? I missed that. can you paraphrase it or message it to me? And with his history who knows you know? I only know what I've been told though.

 

[chevygirl]

Supposing for a moment this is a gang related case, maybe she was going thru part of a gang initiation stunt by sitting on the tracks, either willingly or unwillingly ?????

I don't know but that is sure wierd.. I've never seen anyone sitting on train tracks before.

 

[ahsgramma]

A few things - the girl sitting on the railroad tracks was in cashmere. That is what the police report on the manson village tribune says.

As for CR - he maybe a construction worker, IDK. He doesn't have much of a background for doing anything. He does have an extensive criminal background. I also know his ex and she had several restraining orders for dv. One thing is he has a teenage daughter around the same age as Mc.

The comments he wrote were about how sad it was and how bad he felt for the family. If I remember right he stated he did not know her. That is why I felt it was out of character.

Also, there is another CR who attends WHS. Maybe he was the one who wrote the comment, but I suspect the older because it was poorly written with numerous misspelled words.

I am just speculating on all of this so please don't quote any relationship to this case as being fact. It is just my opinion. However the info about the past violence, criminal record, dv, and daughter are fact.

 

[girlfawkes]

This is the call prior to them calling in Mackenzie’s abandoned car.



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10C01195 ASSIST AGENCY 19:12:35 02/09/10 HEGBERG MARK ACT

BURLINGTON NORTHERN & SANTA FE, RAILWAY CO

BNSF POLICE REQ LE TO CONTACT FEMALE SITTING ON THE TRAIN TRACKS, A TRAIN DID GO
BY RECENTLY & SHE GOT UP BUT RETURNED TO THE TRACKS, PER BNSF DO NOT BELIEVE
ANOTHER TRAIN IS SCHED TO GO THROUGH THERE ANYTIME SOON.
...
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10C01196 SUSPICIOUS 20:02:34 02/09/10 CORULLI DOUG ACT

We now know that Mackenzie was down at the park shortly after she left beauty school. One route from the park goes right by the BNSF offices. Does anyone know of a way to find out the address of the call?

I'm not sure if this is related or not. I do know that BNSF takes security very seriously and will call LE for any trespassing. The only way to legally even walk across the tracks is at an approved crossing. BNSF owns that property and will call for anything. It's legally trespassing to even walk along the tracks, even if you're many feet away from any train. So personally I wouldn't read too much into this.

 

[chevygirl]

A few things - the girl sitting on the railroad tracks was in cashmere. That is what the police report on the manson village tribune says.

As for CR - he maybe a construction worker, IDK. He doesn't have much of a background for doing anything. He does have an extensive criminal background. I also know his ex and she had several restraining orders for dv. One thing is he has a teenage daughter around the same age as Mc.

The comments he wrote were about how sad it was and how bad he felt for the family. If I remember right he stated he did not know her. That is why I felt it was out of character.

Also, there is another CR who attends WHS. Maybe he was the one who wrote the comment, but I suspect the older because it was poorly written with numerous misspelled words.

I am just speculating on all of this so please don't quote any relationship to this case as being fact. It is just my opinion. However the info about the past violence, criminal record, dv, and daughter are fact.

alot of the time teens will write poorly cuz they simply dont care and use texting language. But I'm pretty sure what my cousin told me would be true. but like i said its not anything for sure. maybe mackenzie upset his daughter or something?

 

[Salem]

ChelanCountyMom - I alerted on your post because the link you posted is not allowed here. Generally if you try to post a link that is not allowed at Websleuths - the link will come up with asteriks. I don't know why your link was not automatically changed.

I just wanted you to know what happened.

Salem

 

[ahsgramma]

Another bit - I have gone back to look for the comments posted by cr. I know that it was before Feb. 15th. I cannot find anything.

 

[ChelanCountyMom]

ChelanCountyMom - I alerted on your post because the link you posted is not allowed here. Generally if you try to post a link that is not allowed at Websleuths - the link will come up with asteriks. I don't know why your link was not automatically changed.

I just wanted you to know what happened.

Salem

I posted the wrong link. It wasn't showing the full link on the article so it did not go to the correct page. Sorry about the confusion.

 

[ahsgramma]

Latest comments by BR2010 at wenworld say her bf is not 17 and was at work at the time so is not a suspect. later br says the bf was off work by 4. doesn't make sense to me. if he was off by 4:00 then he wasn't at work when it happened.

 

[ChelanCountyMom]

Latest comments by BR2010 at wenworld say her bf is not 17 and was at work at the time so is not a suspect. later br says the bf was off work by 4. doesn't make sense to me. if he was off by 4:00 then he wasn't at work when it happened.

I believe there wasn't enough time to kill her and dump the body at CB. I believe the car was placed while she was still alive. The boyfriend could not have done all this then collected himself in time to meet with them when the car was found. He sat next to MC's father and fiance at the funeral. He was probably with the father when they called the father about the car being found. They were expecting her for dinner.