Found Deceased WA - Olivia 5, Evelyn 8 & Paityn Decker 9, found dead, manhunt on for father, Travis Decker 32, wh 2017 GMC Sierra PU, Wenatchee, 30 May 2025 #2

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  • #821
I could see him injuring his dog during all this, even in a small way that wasn't obvious, during a struggle to tie him up, etc., Like grazing the inside of the dog's ear with a fingernail, or if the dog bit him scraping inside the dogs mouth as he tried to pry his teeth off. JMO
Would those types of small injuries give rise to enough blood to make 2 bloody handprints?
 
  • #822
Would those types of small injuries give rise to enough blood to make 2 bloody handprints?
I am wondering the same... the amount of blood. A lot or a little? I don't think LE disclosed this or I missed it.

Someone upthread mentioned possible a bloody nose. Nose bleeds can produce a lot of blood.

Very curious the quantity even with the handprints. Little might be tacky/dried or a lot might be thicker/raised? MOO
 
  • #823
Would those types of small injuries give rise to enough blood to make 2 bloody handprints?
Perhaps, IMO, maybe more so the dog biting him fiercely & not letting go & him having to work hard with force to unhinge the jaw of the dog. Prying, scraping, punching, it's too awful to contemplate & I'm a bit reluctant to go any further with this, it's just a theory after all.

I have had dogs through most of my life, though, and when they had an injury to their mouth from a fight (usually with another dog but sometimes with wildlife or rodents), they bled from the mouth quite profusely at first, mixed with their saliva, and it got bloody right around their mouth.

When we would consult with a vet, they would say to keep an eye on things and if they didn't stop obviously bleeding within a minute or two because minor mouth wounds heal pretty quickly in most mammals, to see if they would let us look at how large the laceration was, but stitches were not usually needed because their saliva worked like a liquid bandaid usually after a minute or two, and they would swallow most of it.

Apologies if TMI/off topic, mods please delete if so.

Just offering a perspective on the possibility TD's dog bit him, and my experience with blood getting on you for a bit when they get a laceration in their mouth and them healing up pretty quickly.

JMO
 
  • #824
I had that same thought last night....

What if TD slit his wrist as a final act, closed the tailgate of his truck leaving a bloody handprint, then walked into the raging river and bled out, drowned, died of hypothermia, or all of the above?

While I was squarely in the "TD escaped long before LE found his girls" camp, I now lean more to him having ended his life after his alleged crime. IMO his mind was just too far gone to go on.
BBM
Yes, I have maintained that as well since the girls were found. I don’t think he is with the living any longer.

However, I have been wrong before.
 
  • #825
With it being a long holiday weekend, there will certainly be many hundreds of people out hiking and camping in the mountains near Leavenworth. I hope somebody comes across some kind of evidence.
 
  • #826
Just popped in to see if he had been found. Since he has not, my opinion is that he has died as well - suicide.
 
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MOO self centeredness happened.
First it ruined his marriage and then he continuously doubled down on being right in his grievances.
I'd say, problems fitting into regular life. Maybe unwillingness to do so.
Possibly (not sure, but can't exclude) self-medicating with substances that triggered a mental breakdown.
 
  • #829
Just popped in to see if he had been found. Since he has not, my opinion is that he has died as well - suicide.
I agree. Maybe early on and not too far from where he allegedly murdered the girls. Without his medications, I don't believe he would have been able to prepare his survival and escape.
 
  • #830
Morrison says it wasn't a bloody handprint. It was a fingerprint that had blood on it. Wow. That's different.
 
  • #831
Morrison says it wasn't a bloody handprint. It was a fingerprint that had blood on it. Wow. That's different.
Agreed! It was reported by various media that it was a hand print.
 
  • #832
I wonder if TD knicked himself, maybe on purpose, to leave just a bloody fingerprint (not handprints we now know!) on his vehicle he brought the girls in to his campsite, and seemingly "abandoned" his truck before "disappearing into the woods".

To make it look like something had happened to HIM.

Blood would not be consistent with the manner of death/crimes committed on the girls (binding and suffocation).

There was some speculation based on this inconsistency early on along the lines of:

What if some bad people -- who had it out for him and he owed some sort of debt to or were seeking retribution against him -- killed his girls and framed him making it look like he suffocated them and took off, when actually he was kidnapped, and his blood could indicate there was a struggle between him and someone else that resulted in him disappearing because they injured him and then took him away and presumably killed him elsewhere.

I don't give this scenario of other people killing his girls and spiriting him off any credence at all. As in, hinting at SODDI.

I just wonder whether it was something he did as a ruse, placing a bloody fingerprint there to throw things into question that all might not have been as it seemed.

Along with the other ruse he set up, IMO, his searches before their murders LE said had been found on one of his devices about going to Canada. It sounded like a ruse to me the first I heard of it, and hasn't led anywhere, AFAIK.

And now a single bloody fingerprint of his on his truck he abandoned with his wallet left behind, which hasn't led anywhere, AFAIK.

He could have been practiced at the art of deception and leaving multiple false leads to obfuscate the investigation so LE had to divide resources and explore many scenarios, and give himself better cover and more time to go wherever he went without being as directly being tracked and found if that were the only scenario LE knew they should focus on from the beginning.

JMO
 
  • #833
Sad there's no new news. I still feel that he unalived himself somewhere that he'd likely never be found, so LE and his ex will be searching forever for him 🥺 I Hope I am wrong.
 
  • #834
Sad there's no new news. I still feel that he unalived himself somewhere that he'd likely never be found, so LE and his ex will be searching forever for him 🥺 I Hope I am wrong.
I agree he’s not alive. Someone upthread mentioned the river is too swift to safely search right now. They suspect he unalived himself in it. Hopefully that’s the case and he will eventually be found.

I hate the thought of Mom not having that closure.
 
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Interesting. He does wear gauged earrings.

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Interesting. He does wear gauged earrings.

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Ok. That confused me at first. Guess there’s a chance it’s him then. I’ve just gotta believe it’s dubious though.
 
  • #839
Ok. That confused me at first. Guess there’s a chance it’s him then. I’ve just gotta believe it’s dubious though.
Here's the thing... it's such a strange thing to note unless they were really large gauge (like in your face size), but they aren't. It sounds like someone who had studied his pics and description, and then rattled all those identifying facts off to LE. I wonder how credible that person is.

And if they really did note all that about this person... they were really, really close in proximity. AND knew about him so jotted all those facts down. And if it's not made up... makes me wonder if they talked to him on the path or campsite.

And if it is true... they must be a WSer to note ALL those details. lol

Also, if true, I'm thinking we'll get more news tomorrow, more planes circling the area, etc.
 
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Here's the thing... it's such a strange thing to note unless they were really large gauge (like in your face size). It sounds like someone who had studied his pics and description, and then rattled all those identifying facts off to LE. I wonder how credible that person is.

And if they really did note all that about this person... they were really, really close in proximity. AND knew about him so jotted all those facts down. And if it's not made up... makes me wonder if they talked to him on the path or campsite.

And if it is true... they must be a WSer to note ALL those details. lol

Also, if true, I'm thinking we'll get more news tomorrow, more planes circling the area, etc.
It's clear this tip is being taken seriously, and they wouldn't put it out unless there was a reasonable chance it was him. My issue is that this is something like 570 miles away. It just makes little sense.
 
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