Found Deceased WA - Olivia 5, Evelyn 8 & Paityn Decker 9, found dead, manhunt on for father, Travis Decker 32, wh 2017 GMC Sierra PU, Wenatchee, 30 May 2025 #2

[Charlot123]

If she can, she should move from the area, from the state, go across country, start using another part of her name. Make it as difficult as possible to find her.

She may need witness protection. MOO: this guy may be walking around now, and none the wiser, but one thing he can’t do is legally search for his wife. Or anyone helping him, for that matter.

 

[placard]

A recent article aprapos to this discussion about possible MJ effects on the brain (e.g. psychosis) , especially with underlying mental illness.

Inside the Quest to Understand the Link Between Cannabis and Schizophrenia

Recent studies have examined the relationship between the drug and psychoses and looked at how the brain responds to the substance

na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com

Seems like nearly all tragedies involving guns and other tragedies: the person had some underlying mental health issues and were not making (obvious) rational decisions. Some crisis, pushed over the edge...not in their right mind. Like teens being mercilessly bullied at a difficult (high school) period in their lives.

An interviewed neighbor had a telling encounter with Travis (and seems to have met Travis several times before):

Travis Decker's neighbor recalls 'weird' encounter before WA murders

A neighbor shared details of a "weird" encounter with Travis Decker on the day he picked up his daughters.

www.fox13seattle.com

I feel he took himself out after what he did. Unfortunately, we may never find evidence, if that is the case. He probably went up into the hills and animals took care of his remains in the "circle of life." I think he went absolutely into a very dark place, beyond his control, and committed an unfathomable act that is incredibly heartbreaking.

We can't deny that marijuana iits been documented to have adverse effects in some people. However, it is a substance that can make things worse (or better) for people. For me, I make edibles and its the only thing that helps me sleep in all my years.

One thing I find odd, all these months later, is lack of interviews or information on his military days (former comrades) or his family - parents, brothers, sisters. It just seems like there is so much missing information, but may be held close to the vest, by law enforcement, to protect their case. I would have thought someone would have sought out and talked to people who knew him well and reported that.

It does appear in the link above that he sought help from the VA and a chaplin (mentioned in another article), but it was simply not enough to help him. He knew he had a problem, which is quite sad. Sometimes it takes involuntary commitment of an individual to help that person, but something that is rarely ever invoked. (Like a guy interviewed in another story about being on drugs and living on the streets - if he hadn't been locked up for treatment, he's still be out there on the streets doing what he did.)

It's pretty brave in the military to speak up, seek help, as the military can seem vindictive (it seems on the surface) toward its members. I remember in the military that people that had problems were used as an example and dealt with. Like the Japanese saying: the nail that sticks out, gets the hammer. People do keep their problems to themselves if they feel that saying something will have adverse effects on their carrier and have a little note or two in their personnel file to call into question their capacity to serve. And used for promotions, which are necessary if you wish to continue in the military for a long period of time.

There's also the crimes of passion committed by people. This doesn't appear to fit that narrative. He had a crisis beyond his control, whether or not a substance induced or aided in his act.

 

[KBlackRabbit]

Disagree. I don’t think it was weed or anything from being in the military. I think it’s how he thinks about women. Women are nothing but objects to him that are supposed to please him and do what he says. This one dared to tell him no, she didn’t want to reconcile. He got angry and murdered the children to spite her. It’s cold-blooded misogynistic evil.

 

[Sundog]

Seems like nearly all tragedies involving guns and other tragedies: the person had some underlying mental health issues and were not making (obvious) rational decisions. Some crisis, pushed over the edge...not in their right mind. Like teens being mercilessly bullied at a difficult (high school) period in their lives.

An interviewed neighbor had a telling encounter with Travis (and seems to have met Travis several times before):

Travis Decker's neighbor recalls 'weird' encounter before WA murders

A neighbor shared details of a "weird" encounter with Travis Decker on the day he picked up his daughters.

www.fox13seattle.com

I feel he took himself out after what he did. Unfortunately, we may never find evidence, if that is the case. He probably went up into the hills and animals took care of his remains in the "circle of life." I think he went absolutely into a very dark place, beyond his control, and committed an unfathomable act that is incredibly heartbreaking.

We can't deny that marijuana iits been documented to have adverse effects in some people. However, it is a substance that can make things worse (or better) for people. For me, I make edibles and its the only thing that helps me sleep in all my years.

One thing I find odd, all these months later, is lack of interviews or information on his military days (former comrades) or his family - parents, brothers, sisters. It just seems like there is so much missing information, but may be held close to the vest, by law enforcement, to protect their case. I would have thought someone would have sought out and talked to people who knew him well and reported that.

It does appear in the link above that he sought help from the VA and a chaplin (mentioned in another article), but it was simply not enough to help him. He knew he had a problem, which is quite sad. Sometimes it takes involuntary commitment of an individual to help that person, but something that is rarely ever invoked. (Like a guy interviewed in another story about being on drugs and living on the streets - if he hadn't been locked up for treatment, he's still be out there on the streets doing what he did.)

It's pretty brave in the military to speak up, seek help, as the military can seem vindictive (it seems on the surface) toward its members. I remember in the military that people that had problems were used as an example and dealt with. Like the Japanese saying: the nail that sticks out, gets the hammer. People do keep their problems to themselves if they feel that saying something will have adverse effects on their carrier and have a little note or two in their personnel file to call into question their capacity to serve. And used for promotions, which are necessary if you wish to continue in the military for a long period of time.

There's also the crimes of passion committed by people. This doesn't appear to fit that narrative. He had a crisis beyond his control, whether or not a substance induced or aided in his act.

Very thoughtful post.

 

[RedHaus]

He had a crisis beyond his control, whether or not a substance induced or aided in his act.

RSBM
I agree with @Sundog, your post is very thoughtful. And I tend to agree with you.

I too believe TD had a sudden and dark mental health crisis, stemming from his mental health challenges and triggered by any variety of stressors, or an event at the campground when he was with his girls. But I think he may still be alive.

All that said, I wanted to clarify that I posted that MJ / psychosis article, simply to add to the discussion. The article's findings do not necessarily reflect my perceptions of MJ.

IMO

 

[Charlot123]

RSBM
I agree with @Sundog, your post is very thoughtful. And I tend to agree with you.

I too believe TD had a sudden and dark mental health crisis, stemming from his mental health challenges and triggered by any variety of stressors, or an event at the campground when he was with his girls. But I think he may still be alive.

All that said, I wanted to clarify that I posted that MJ / psychosis article, simply to add to the discussion. The article's findings do not necessarily reflect my perceptions of MJ.

IMO

I agree with you. And I, too, think that he is alive.

 

[girlhasnoname]

It's gone very quiet on this case. I hope that means good news is coming. TD needs to be brought to justice and held accountable for murdering his innocent daughters. Period.

JMO

 

[Boxer]

A corpse is a big smell for dogs. I do think he got away.

 

[Charlot123]

A corpse is a big smell for dogs. I do think he got away.

Sadly, me too. And this man, who is the risk to the community due to his mental illness and aggravates it by drugs is probably somewhere already far from the area.

If I were the police, I'd dedicate the time to the safety of his ex-wife.

Also, as i understand, there are things he is dependent on. Maybe warn such outlets all over the country. Banks, joint stores, liquor stores, libraries. This case is still local. It shouldn't be. He is a public enemy.

 

[FromGermany1]

Imagine, one day he enters a barbershop like AJM in the Brink's murder case (AR) .....

 

[floridafreshsqueez]

Sadly, me too. And this man, who is the risk to the community due to his mental illness and aggravates it by drugs is probably somewhere already far from the area.

If I were the police, I'd dedicate the time to the safety of his ex-wife.

Also, as i understand, there are things he is dependent on. Maybe warn such outlets all over the country. Banks, joint stores, liquor stores, libraries. This case is still local. It shouldn't be. He is a public enemy.

IA. He could have met anyone at the campground (or other campgrounds visited earlier). Hell, maybe an old buddy of his or an acquaintance has no problem helping hide him. It’s difficult to fathom, but I don’t think it’s a stretch to believe someone may sympathize with him or see some mutual benefit in helping Travis evade LE.

There’s just something about this case that leads me to believe he did not die right away, if he’s dead at this point. LE making the comment about him having help also pricked my ears.

Perhaps Travis was determined enough not to fail at escape the way he failed in other ways.

 

[girlhasnoname]

Sadly, me too. And this man, who is the risk to the community due to his mental illness and aggravates it by drugs is probably somewhere already far from the area.

If I were the police, I'd dedicate the time to the safety of his ex-wife.

Also, as i understand, there are things he is dependent on. Maybe warn such outlets all over the country. Banks, joint stores, liquor stores, libraries. This case is still local. It shouldn't be. He is a public enemy.

I believe TD is still on the FBI's Top 10 Most Wanted, but not much news coming out on MSM since they announced they were scaling back the search. That could have been done in an effort to lower TD's guard. You know TPTB are not happy with their failed efforts to locate him.

I think he's alive, and may have had help from someone who was not aware that he had killed his daughters. He could have said he just needed to get out of the area for whatever reason and had someone pick him up at the beginning of the trailhead, away from the vehicle and the spot the children were found.

It's amazing to me the number of US Marshalls, Army Rangers and other LE personnel and the days they spent searching turned up nothing. No tracks, no cadaver hits by the dogs. It also says to me TD planned this pretty well to have evaded capture by a search of this magnitude, so I don't believe he had a psychotic break or is a walking, drooling zombie. He knows how to traverse rough terrain and seems very capable of hiding.

Where are you Travis? Your precious daughters deserve justice.

JMO

 

[_Laurel_]

Most likely Travis is still alive. <Mod snipped- source> Which leads me to believe he could try to camp out in one of the abandoned huts in the woods come September. He either needs to find such a hut and brave winter there or try to get into Canada before snowfall which could be within the next couple weeks already. Without shelter he wont survive the coming autumn.

 

[seasideForest]

He was seen by several hikers and some said he seemed to be ill equipped.

Were any of the supposed sightings actually confirmed as being TD? I thought not.

He either needs to find such a hut and brave winter there or try to get into Canada before snowfall

I can't see that escaping to Canada and braving winter there would be better than braving winter in Washington state?

 

[girlhasnoname]

Were any of the supposed sightings actually confirmed as being TD? I thought not.


I can't see that escaping to Canada and braving winter there would be better than braving winter in Washington state?

I don't think LE has had any actual confirmed sightings of TD. The ones they received turned out to not be TD to my knowledge.

You're right, blending into the large homeless population in Seattle (In the top 5 of highest homeless populations in US Cities) might be preferable to hunkering down in a vast unknown frozen tundra. Yet again, we do know TD is trained as a survivalist so who knows what is going through his mind right now? If alive, he could have more options than we know of.

#Justice4Olivia,Evelyn&Paityn

MOO

 

[AngTxGal]

I don't think LE has had any actual confirmed sightings of TD. The ones they received turned out to not be TD to my knowledge.

You're right, blending into the large homeless population in Seattle (In the top 5 of highest homeless populations in US Cities) might be preferable to hunkering down in a vast unknown frozen tundra. Yet again, we do know TD is trained as a survivalist so who knows what is going through his mind right now? If alive, he could have more options than we know of.

#Justice4Olivia,Evelyn&Paityn

MOO

Dam I keep checking thinking they’ve got him and No Such Luck.
IMO

 

[waitin'4thewrld2chg]

Apparently nothing came of a possible sighting of TD on the Pacific Crest Trail near Snoqualmie Pass on August 1st, despite a search.

I was wishing for some kind of resolution with that.....that a person could be located and ruled in or out, as in Idaho in July, when it was confirmed that the individual reported there was definitely not Travis. Chances are the August 1 flurry of activity was in vain but it would be good to know something for sure.

(I'm not including a link for the PCT August sighting because I think it will appear at a glance like new news, only to disappoint, but the reference is found in my post #1,112 on this thread.)

 

[seasideForest]

You're right, blending into the large homeless population in Seattle (In the top 5 of highest homeless populations in US Cities) might be preferable to hunkering down in a vast unknown frozen tundra. Yet again, we do know TD is trained as a survivalist so who knows what is going through his mind right now? If alive, he could have more options than we know of.

He may think he could survive a winter on the run in Canada. Maybe on the west coast, Vancouver also has a homeless population he could disappear into, and the winter isn't as harsh as other areas. More wet than terribly cold. But otherwise long before you get to the tundra Edmonton, Calgary, Winnipeg - bitterly cold, long winter. Probably also in eastern British Columbia when you start getting into the mountains.

Also as has been pointed out a few times on this thread, it's just not as easy as it used to be to turn up in Canada with no ID and to exist in Canada without social insurance no. Nor is it so easy to get over the border, not like it used to be. The US is a big country, why not stay there? @_Laurel_

 

[_Laurel_]

To me it would make more sense if he tried to hike from Rock Island Campground north into Canada. And then he could try to vanish into the vastness of Canada. He is probably unrecognizable already. Dude has been roughing it since 2 month must look like Sasquatch by now.

 

[JenniD]

Just saw this. I guess there is no doubt he did this.