NOT GUILTY WA - Parents try to kidnap daughter over forced marriage - November 3, 2024 (NG of attempted murder; Guilty of lesser charges)
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IMO I wouldn't trust the sister.
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What I find strange is they picked not only a VERY public spot for this assault, but there were kids all over the place! I mean.... didn't they wait till the child either goes home, or wait for no people to be around? That makes no sense to me. They wanted her that badly, at that precise moment, that they risked being seen and beat up? Very strange. But then again, it's very strange IMO, to arrange a marriage for a child. Obviously I didn't grow up where that's common and OK to do... smh
Terrifying never-seen-before footage of 'attempted honor killing'
Ihsan Ali, 44, and his wife Zahraa Subhi Mohsin Ali, 40, are charged with second-degree attempted murder and attempted kidnapping after the attack, shown on video for the first time ever.www.dailymail.co.uk
Terrifying footage obtained by the Daily Mail from the bus cameras shows the dramatic alleged crime, and the heroic response of the girl's classmates, for the first time.
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*7thWelcome to the 3rd century!
Thank goodness all those people and the youngsters dived in like they did to help the daughter. Without them there it's anyone's guess the outcome.
How on earth the daughter will be able to carry on in life with the fear of who she can trust. Every day she would be knotted up inside.
Even if (hopefully happens) her parents are put into Jail for many many years she of course knows there are lots of other people in the extended family that might do what the parents were stopped from doing.
How on earth the daughter will be able to carry on in life with the fear of who she can trust. Every day she would be knotted up inside.
Even if (hopefully happens) her parents are put into Jail for many many years she of course knows there are lots of other people in the extended family that might do what the parents were stopped from doing.
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DAILY TRIAL HIGHLIGHTS
DAY 2 – 7/15/25
- The daughter of Ihsan and Zahraa Ali testified against her parents in their attempted murder case.
- Fatima told the jury that the conversation between her and her father began calmly, and they spoke softly in Arabic. She admitted to talking back to him, and the conversation grew louder, and her father looked “frustrated” before the assault.
- Fatima said as she was boarding the Intercity Transit Bus, when Ihsan Ali, her father, grabbed her by her hoodie and said, “My daughter.”
- When Fatima was asked about how she felt following the incident, she said, “Heartbroken for what my dad did and was afraid of dying.”
- A student who was waiting on the city transit bus stated he tried to help free Fatima by kicking Ihsan Ali in the head to free Fatima from her father’s grasp.
- Fatima Ali had visible scratches on the side of her neck.
- Witnesses describe Fatima as pale and lifeless, as her dad had her in a chokehold.
- Fatima testified that when she woke up, she remembers her mother’s voice and holding onto her by her chest and neck. She testified that her mother, Zahraa Ali, was not trying to hurt her and was sad.
- On the morning of October 18, 2024, Fatima Ali ran away from home because she did not want to travel to Iraq with her mom and her siblings. Fatima told jurors that she packed up all her clothes and hygiene products and took $100 from her mom before she left her home. She acknowledged that she was aware they were traveling to obtain Iraqi passports for her younger brothers.
- Jurors were shown images of injuries to “Isiah’s” face following the incident outside of his school, where he was attempting to protect his girlfriend, Fatima.
- Fatima and Isiah had been dating for a year before Fatima’s family found out she was dating, which is against the rules in her household.
- Ihsan and Zahraa Ali withdrew Fatima from high school during her senior year and enrolled her in online courses because she had been skipping school, and to keep her away from Isiah.
- A juror was excused with cause after falling ill during the proceedings and could not return.
DAY 1 – 7/14/25
- VIDEO: WA v. Ihsan & Zahrra Ali, Day 1 | Attempted ‘Honor Killing’ Trial
- Olivia Zhou delivered the State’s opening, saying students at Timberline High School witnessed a disturbing scene: Mr. Ali choking his daughter Fatima until her face went pale.
- Ihsan Ali’s defense attorney, Erik Kaeding, delivered his opening statement, saying the case centers on October 18, when Fatima left home early without telling anyone where she was going.
- Bus driver John Denicola said he worked the Route 68 shift on October 18, 2024, from 8:40 AM to 5:30 PM.
- WATCH: ‘He Was Choking Her’: Bus Driver Describes Chaotic Scene
- As he approached the Timberline High School stop, he saw a commotion that looked like a fight. He initially assumed it was rowdy teens, then realized an adult man was physically fighting with students.
- He witnessed the man grab a female student by the throat and take her to the ground; other students tried to intervene.
- Blew the bus horn to break it up but the man didn’t stop. Denicola exited the bus and yelled for him to “let her go.”
- Recalled the man was silent and focused, not reacting to punches from students trying to stop him.
- Confirmed that bus surveillance footage was recorded and reviewed.
- Eyewitness Mary Wagner said she and her husband, Josh, were returning from a late lunch when they saw what looked like a fight near Timberline High School. She initially thought it was a teenage altercation.
- WATCH: Witness Says Teen Girl ‘Couldn’t Breathe’ As Father Attacked Her
- They pulled into the left lane, stopped their Ram F120 truck, and both exited the vehicle; Josh crossed the road while Mary climbed into the driver’s seat and called 911.
- Surveillance images and bus video footage were shown in court, including shots of Mary and Josh during the incident. In the video, she heard a male voice exclaim, “She could not (expletive) breathe dude.”
- Eyewitness Josh Wagner said he and Mary were driving past Timberline High School on his birthday when he saw a group of kids fighting at a bus stop; he pulled over because it looked serious and unjust, especially when it’s more than a one-on-one fight.
- WATCH: Attempted ‘Honor Killing’ Trial: Day 1 Recap
WA v. Ihsan & Zahraa Ali: Attempted "Honor Killing" Trial
UPDATE: Ihsan and Zahraa Ali were found not guilty of trying to kill their teen daughter, Fatima. Ihsan was convicted on the lesser charge.
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7/15/25
LIVE: WA v. Ali & Ali, Day 2 | Attempted “Honor Killing” Trial
00:00:00 WA v Ali & Ali: Day 2
00:18:24 ON THE RECORD: Honorable Christine Schaller
00:23:25 [CNTD.] STATE’S WITNESS #5 Officer Justin Beltran - Lacey Police Department & School Resource Officer
01:02:28 STATE’S WITNESS #6 Victor Barnes - Isiah’s Father
01:58:00 STATE’S WITNESS #7 “Elijah” - Eyewitness
03:13:51 LUNCH
04:49:36 STATE’S WITNESS #8 “Eric” Eyewitness
05:18:01 STATE’S WITNESS #9 Fatima Ali, Defendants’ Daughter & Victim
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Teen describes moment her dad choked her in attempted 'honor killing'
Fatima Ali, 18, testified against her parents Ihsan Ali, 44, and mother Zahraa Subhi Mohsin Ali, 40, at their attempted murder trial. They are accused of trying to strangle her in a Muslim 'honor killing'.
7/16/25
All the students, the bus driver, and the Army Veteran who ultimately saved this young girl's life are all heroes. I hope this young lady finds a safe home to grow up in, away from her horrible parents. I wonder how they feel when their daughter testified she feels safe at her high school, but not at home. What failures they are as parents.
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I take it they will serve their sentences in the US and be promptly deported back to Iraq afterward (and banned from re-entry)? And what about the older sister who was also present? Seems she would also pose a threat to the victim.Welcome to the 3rd century!
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If they are U.S. citizens, they won't be deported.
I, too, worry about other relatives, including the sister who was present. Fatima Ali also has a paternal uncle who lives in Canada with her paternal grandmother (this was reported in MSM article upthread). Who knows what other relatives are around.
Thanks, Sundog. Do you know anything about the father's occupation? I couldn't find anything online. Would they send people to harm her? At least there are resources in the US for abused women, hopefully she can find a way to keep safe. It's terrible she has to relive this in front of them, she must be terrified.
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Jurors hear chilling details in trial of Lacey parents for attempted 'honor killing'
On the third day of trial, jurors continued to hear from the victim as she described being attacked by her father in October 2024.
komonews.com
7/16/25
OLYMPIA, Wash. — The trial continues for two Lacey parents accused of trying to kill their 17-year-old daughter in a possible “honor killing.”
On the third day of trial, jurors continued to hear from the victim as she described being attacked by her father in October 2024.
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I have been wondering if the parents had any intent to take her home. I thought they might be taking her straight to the airport and boarding. Not taking chances that she might get away at home.
I don't know anything about the father's occupation. Also don't know if anyone else in the family would try to harm her. Her sister is still local so could try to keep tracking her. I wonder if FA will have to change schools and go into hiding for awhile in some safe space, hope if that's the case that she can continue to get her education.
This article posted upthread by @Seattle1 states that the mother tried to escape to Canada where her husband's brother and mother live, once she heard that she might be arrested following her husband's arrest.
www.dailymail.co.uk
Police did not realize Zahraa also allegedly tried to kill her daughter until four days later, leaving her free to continue looking for her daughter, who was in hiding.
She was finally detained by customs officers on the night of October 22 while trying to cross into Canada.
Victor Barnes, the father of the girl's boyfriend, told DailyMail.com that Zahraa had fled to the border after prosecutors moved to charge her along with Ihsan.
He claimed Zahraa was in court with Haneen at Ihsan's arraignment when prosecutors said they believed she was also a threat and were seeking an arrest warrant.
'The second she hears that, she runs out the courtroom,' said Barnes...
Barnes claimed Zahraa drove her youngest children, two boys aged five and three, into Canada and dropped them off with an uncle who lived there.
She then reportedly returned to Washington before trying to cross into Canada a second time.
During this time, police compiled statements from the girl, her boyfriend, and other witnesses and issued an arrest warrant flagging her passport.
Barnes said the two older sisters were also with their uncle in Canada, but he wasn't sure when or how they got there.
Parents' reaction after 'strangling daughter in honor killing attempt'
Ihsan Ali, 44, and his wife Zahraa Subhi Mohsin Ali, 40, were charged with attempted murder, attempted kidnapping, and assault after the attack outside Timberline High in Lacey, Washington.
Police did not realize Zahraa also allegedly tried to kill her daughter until four days later, leaving her free to continue looking for her daughter, who was in hiding.
She was finally detained by customs officers on the night of October 22 while trying to cross into Canada.
Victor Barnes, the father of the girl's boyfriend, told DailyMail.com that Zahraa had fled to the border after prosecutors moved to charge her along with Ihsan.
He claimed Zahraa was in court with Haneen at Ihsan's arraignment when prosecutors said they believed she was also a threat and were seeking an arrest warrant.
'The second she hears that, she runs out the courtroom,' said Barnes...
Barnes claimed Zahraa drove her youngest children, two boys aged five and three, into Canada and dropped them off with an uncle who lived there.
She then reportedly returned to Washington before trying to cross into Canada a second time.
During this time, police compiled statements from the girl, her boyfriend, and other witnesses and issued an arrest warrant flagging her passport.
Barnes said the two older sisters were also with their uncle in Canada, but he wasn't sure when or how they got there.
It doesn't make sense to me as an American because killing one's daughter for disobedience isn't what anyone would do (or at least very few). There is utter disregard for women in some cultures, women aren't viewed as human, in other words. And clearly the poor girl's mother isn't any better.
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This article posted upthread by @Seattle1 states that the mother tried to escape to Canada where her husband's brother and mother live, once she heard that she might be arrested following her husband's arrest.
Parents' reaction after 'strangling daughter in honor killing attempt'
Ihsan Ali, 44, and his wife Zahraa Subhi Mohsin Ali, 40, were charged with attempted murder, attempted kidnapping, and assault after the attack outside Timberline High in Lacey, Washington.
Police did not realize Zahraa also allegedly tried to kill her daughter until four days later, leaving her free to continue looking for her daughter, who was in hiding.
She was finally detained by customs officers on the night of October 22 while trying to cross into Canada.
Victor Barnes, the father of the girl's boyfriend, told DailyMail.com that Zahraa had fled to the border after prosecutors moved to charge her along with Ihsan.
He claimed Zahraa was in court with Haneen at Ihsan's arraignment when prosecutors said they believed she was also a threat and were seeking an arrest warrant.
'The second she hears that, she runs out the courtroom,' said Barnes...
Barnes claimed Zahraa drove her youngest children, two boys aged five and three, into Canada and dropped them off with an uncle who lived there.
She then reportedly returned to Washington before trying to cross into Canada a second time.
During this time, police compiled statements from the girl, her boyfriend, and other witnesses and issued an arrest warrant flagging her passport.
Barnes said the two older sisters were also with their uncle in Canada, but he wasn't sure when or how they got there.
Wait, it gets worse!
Mom was correctly charged with attempted murder from the beginning, and her bail was set at $500K, and she's been in custody ever since her arrest on 10/23/24.
For reasons I'll never understand, Dad was NOT initially charged with attempted murder, and appearing before a different Judge, his bail was set at only $150K, and he posted bond and was released!
Dad was walking around for 12 days before he was finally re-arrested and charged with attempted murder, and his bond was raised to $1M. He's been in custody ever since.
What do you make of this? Another case that I'm beside myself considering the video, witness accounts, etc. 12 days is a long time, when he should have been arrested and held just like the wife.Wait, it gets worse!
Mom was correctly charged with attempted murder from the beginning, and her bail was set at $500K, and she's been in custody ever since her arrest on 10/23/24.
For reasons I'll never understand, Dad was NOT initially charged with attempted murder, and appearing before a different Judge, his bail was set at only $150K, and he posted bond and was released!
Dad was walking around for 12 days before he was finally re-arrested and charged with attempted murder, and his bond was raised to $1M. He's been in custody ever since.
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