Do you happen to know where I could watch the video? Thanks. It must make his blood boil that so many women are working to bring justice for Fatima--the judge, 2 prosecutors, cops, nurses, doctors, student witnesses...
NOT GUILTY WA - Parents try to kidnap daughter over forced marriage - November 3, 2024 (NG of attempted murder; Guilty of lesser charges)
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It was shown today by Court TV in one of the breaks this morning. I am doing other things and can't pin point it but it showed him yelling at them from the car and he seems incredulous that the officer was not going to get her over them based on his command. Wife is brainwashed and very afraid of him and if they are even on the street again she better hide and then there is Haneen...where does this leave her?
Lawyer's explanation regarding allowing video evidence of Fatima's mother after the choking. Very cogent argument from the prosecutor as to why it should be allowed (judge changed ruling in agreement as a result).
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LIVE: Defying Tradition Parents v. Daughter Attempted Murder Trial - WA v. Ali - Day 5 - PART 2
7/21/25 - Evidence/video played outside the presence of the jury where Mrs. Ali is visibly upset (audio only here) when her husband is being arrested. Begins at about 37-minute mark.
Observation -- watching Mrs. Ali while this video was being played in court, this is the first time I've noticed her shed tears. No tears observed when Fatima was testifying. JMO
I am both female and western, and in a love marriage. I have seen many arranged marriages between consenting adult partners work just as well as western marriages.
Part of my job is helping forced marriage victims escape their situation. I find forced marriage offensive in any context.
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DAY 6 – 7/22/25
- VIDEO: WA v. Ihsan & Zahrra Ali, Day 6 | Attempted ‘Honor Killing’ Trial
- Dr. Joyce Gilbert, a pediatrician, showed jurors “Fatima’s” CT angiogram scans to show air trapped outside her trachea following the incident with her father on October 18, 2024.
- On cross-examination, Dr. Gilbert acknowledged that cerebral edema could result from someone hitting their head or being punched by someone.
- WATCH: Attempted ‘Honor Killing’ Trial: Day 6 Recap
- Elizabeth Robinson, a mental health specialist at Timberline High School, testified that she is bound by the state’s confidentiality law not to disclose information regarding runaway youth. Robinson was not obligated to notify “Fatima’s” parents.
- When asked if Robinson would contact the school resource officer, call law enforcement, or child protective services regarding serious incidents, none were called in “Fatima’s” case.
- Zahraa Ali was issued a no-trespass letter on September 17, 2024, following an incident with “Isiah” the day before. Zahraa informed school officials about an incident that had occurred the weekend before involving her daughter.
- WATCH: Attempted ‘Honor Killing’ Trial: Former WWE Star Analyzes Chokehold Video
- WATCH: Assistant Principal Says Phone Alerted Her of School Lockdown
WA v. Ihsan & Zahraa Ali: Attempted "Honor Killing" Trial
UPDATE: Jury deliberations are underway in the trial of Ihsan Ali and Zahraa Ali, accused of attempting to kill their daughter.
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IMO, they are hoping to avoid a mistrial!
To be clear, the Court earlier ruled there could be no reference to the allegation by the victim that her father threatened her with an 'honor killing' if she did not travel with her mother and brothers to Iraq, and this info was not admissible in this trial.
We recently saw the jurors individually called before the Court and questioned if they'd seen any MSM and/or social media related to the trial -- most likely concerned about Court TV, serving as the camera pooling partner for the trial, that continues to headline the trial coverage videos as "Attempted Honor Killing" Trial.
The Judge also reprimanded Court TV for not redacting the names of minors during the live stream, including the victim and her boyfriend. This is a requirement pursuant to WA State Statute. It's in the best interest of justice to protect the defendants' rights to a fair trial, and also protect the conviction. It's that simple.
Thanks, Seattle. Great points.
From what I understand, the judge laid out coming days after both sides rested. Today would be the jury's instructions part. I didn't know the attorneys debate what's in that, but apparently they do (jury not present). Then 1 day for closing arguments. Then 1 day for jury instructions before they're dismissed to deliberate. I believe she talked about Monday being closing arguments, but don't quote me on that!
thanks I found where both mother and father elected not to testify. got to wonder what Mr Ali does for income in US given his very very limited command of English? So defense with that rested. No case.
Yes, sorry I forgot to mention that. Not verified, but someone said he was a forklift driver for Target warehouse. Apparently, the Alis have extended family in Canada, I wonder if they're assisting financially.
It can't look good when there are no defense witnesses! Not a character witness or anything?
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DAILY TRIAL HIGHLIGHTS
DAY 7 – 7/23/25
- VIDEO: WA v. Ihsan & Zahrra Ali, Day 7 | Attempted ‘Honor Killing’ Trial
- Prosecutors concluded their presentation of evidence on Thursday. They called 27 witnesses during seven days of testimony.
- Both Ihsan Ali and Zahraa Ali chose not to testify in their second-degree attempted murder cases.
- Erik Kaeding, defense attorney for Ihsan Ali, concluded his presentation of evidence on Thursday. Kaeding called one witness to testify out of order during the state’s presentation of evidence.
- Tim Leary, who represents Zahraa Ali, chose not to present any evidence or witnesses, and rest on Thursday.
- A directed verdict motion for Ihsan Ali was denied. His attorney asked that the charges of first-degree assault and unlawful imprisonment be dropped because there was no evidence to show that Ihsan Ali intentionally tried to hold his daughter captive or cause permanent harm.
- Jurors watch surveillance video of the moment Zahraa Ali entered the premises of Timberline High School after receiving a letter of “no-trespass” from the Assistant Principal of the school almost two weeks prior.
- Surveillance video shown to the jury of “Fatima” and “Isiah” running to the school front office, and “Fatima’s” mother walking, then jogging close behind them.
- A contractor at the school said that Zahraa Ali entered the front door of the high school yelling, “My daughter, my daughter. Where is my daughter?” Zahraa Ali was asked to leave and yelled the same statement through the double glass doors again.
- “Noah,” a student at Timberline High School, told jurors that Zahraa Ali and her eldest daughter, Haneen, arrived at the school after Ihsan Ali was on the ground and students were trying to detain him. Once Fatima was free, “It appeared [Zahraa] had her arms around Fatima’s body, Noah said.
- Officer Tori Chavez was recalled by the state to show body camera video recording during interaction with Zahraa Ali. Prosecutors sought to demonstrate that Zahraa Ali spoke English and implied that “Isiah” was the perpetrator in the incident.
- On cross-examination, Officer Chavez was asked why she did not include Zahraa Ali’s statements in her supplemental report. Chavez said she was not the lead investigator on the case.
- A school contractor became emotional when describing Fatima as she ran back into the school seeking help. She described Fatima as thin and frail and looked “really afraid.”
- “Fatima” told school officials that her father “tried to kill me,” and he was “choking her.”
- Closing arguments begin on Monday, July 28.
DAY 8 – 7/24/25
ETA: Day 7 recap above makes reference to "Thursday" but this should be Wednesday. I believe this is an error by the author.
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obviously just a casual observer but have seen enough trials to know when the defendant should take the stand and this one was a tough call. Mr. is a loose cannon that could go off at any time but sort of wonder if Mrs.. through translator could. tell their side of the story...provide some background or something. The way it ended should leave little doubt for the jury. I know many of those jurors have seen the Court TV headers and bet that phrase comes up in deliberations.
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If "honor killing" comes up during deliberations, there will be an immediate mistrial!
The jurors were individually questioned a couple of days ago as reassurance for the Court and the parties-- given this topic and the alleged threat by the defendant, was excluded as evidence from this trial.
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If all that yelling and hollering in front of Police by Mr A is an indication of his typical behaviour, I hope the jury can extrapolate and figure that behind closed doors it's a whole other story.
F's safety is not guaranteed regardless of outcome of this case and I hope she can get the support and protection she deserves.
F's safety is not guaranteed regardless of outcome of this case and I hope she can get the support and protection she deserves.
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I agree, Mr. would likely show his volatility and Mrs. would be not be able to withstand the prosecution's questioning. She would quickly be exposed.
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ACTUALLY....
The parents are not on trial of kidnapping! The title of this thread is misleading.
They're accused of attempted murder.
The parents are not on trial of kidnapping! The title of this thread is misleading.
They're accused of attempted murder.
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Not true, charges for each include two counts of attempted kidnapping!
OP may want to listen to today's "charging conference" for a better understanding of what exactly the jurors will be deciding:
"ZAHRAA SUBHI MOHSIN ALI"
VIOLATION OF A PROTECTION ORDER DOMESTIC
ASSAULT 2ND DEGREE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE
ATTEMPTED MURDER 2ND DEGREE
ATTEMPTED KIDNAPPING 2ND DEGREE
ATTEMPTED KIDNAPPING 1ST DEGREE
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