Found Safe WA - Seraya Aung Harmon, 2, Pullman, 29 May 2024 *father and daughter went on a fishing trip in Montana but did not return* #2

[Megnut]

Well, IANAL but it reads to me as though they are seeking to prevent disclosure of discovery with "PII" which I assume means personal identification information. At least that's what Google says, lol.

AFAIK, both Aung's are still detained while Nadia has been set free...perhaps still recovering from her ordeal in a "secure private location." MOO

Rbbm

But probably not Italy.

That ship sailed.

At least until someday when she can go there on her own merits. Once she builds some.

JMO

 

[Inthedetails]

Well, IANAL but it reads to me as though they are seeking to prevent disclosure of discovery with "PII" which I assume means personal identification information. At least that's what Google says, lol.

AFAIK, both Aung's are still detained while Nadia has been set free...perhaps still recovering from her ordeal in a "secure private location." MOO

Thanks, @PommyMommy

 

[Deleted member 326769]

Except she was seen downtown near the waterfront after she left the airport. If that was in fact her, she must have made some sort of plan for transportation from there to Tacoma. It makes me wonder if she walked down to Alaskan way & caught a cab down there to take her to Tacoma. Tons of cabs along the waterfront so that would make sense.

That would be quite a hike from the airport to the Seattle waterfront. Might as well just walked to Tacoma. I don’t think that sighting was her IMO

 

[Ontario Mom]

That would be quite a hike from the airport to the Seattle waterfront. Might as well just walked to Tacoma. I don’t think that sighting was her IMO

From the area she was seen at, 3rd & University, it's only like 45 minutes to Tacoma. I haven't seen any official document stating that sighting wasn't her, so I'm still presuming it was. Bus from the airport to the waterfront (potentially to be seen on purpose? To throw LE off? To give the impression she was taking a ferry?), then another bus or cab to Tacoma where they met up.

Realistically, it makes more sense to just go from Seatac to Tacoma using whatever public transport she used. But until they rule out that sighting of her as stated earlier, it wouldn't surprise me if deception tactics were used for exactly that reason.

jmo

 

[vls12345]

If you search for "Aung", basic inmate info for both Aaron and his dad Jaimes is available.

Inmate Roster | Spokane County, WA

View a roster of all inmates in custody of Detention Services at the Spokane County Jail and the Geiger Corrections Facility.

www.spokanecounty.org

Under "Bondable", No is currently listed for both.

Quoting myself from last month. Just did a search on this same site & Aaron is the only Aung in the system, still showing him as "No" under the "Bondable" heading.

Inmate Roster | Spokane County, WA

View a roster of all inmates in custody of Detention Services at the Spokane County Jail and the Geiger Corrections Facility.

www.spokanecounty.org

Did his dad bond out? Or get moved elsewhere? (Maybe so they couldn't interact/collude prior to the court case?)

 

[sasha17]

Quoting myself from last month. Just did a search on this same site & Aaron is the only Aung in the system, still showing him as "No" under the "Bondable" heading.

Inmate Roster | Spokane County, WA

View a roster of all inmates in custody of Detention Services at the Spokane County Jail and the Geiger Corrections Facility.

www.spokanecounty.org

Did his dad bond out? Or get moved elsewhere? (Maybe so they couldn't interact/collude prior to the court case?)

It looks like Dad Aung was transferred to Yakima. VINELink - Empowering Victims of Crime

 

[Deleted member 326769]

From the area she was seen at, 3rd & University, it's only like 45 minutes to Tacoma. I haven't seen any official document stating that sighting wasn't her, so I'm still presuming it was. Bus from the airport to the waterfront (potentially to be seen on purpose? To throw LE off? To give the impression she was taking a ferry?), then another bus or cab to Tacoma where they met up.

Realistically, it makes more sense to just go from Seatac to Tacoma using whatever public transport she used. But until they rule out that sighting of her as stated earlier, it wouldn't surprise me if deception tactics were used for exactly that reason.

jmo

I just don’t think it’s realistic. IMO. With the way our buses run here, it’s going to take some time and transfers etc to get from SeaTac to the Seattle waterfront. Tacoma, ok the other hand, is pretty much a straight shot down 99 from SeaTac with very little need to transfer etc. I also don’t believe that she’s a criminal
Mastermind that would have the forethought to even think to create sighting. It just doesn’t make any logical sense IMO

 

[Inthedetails]

I just don’t think it’s realistic. IMO. With the way our buses run here, it’s going to take some time and transfers etc to get from SeaTac to the Seattle waterfront. Tacoma, ok the other hand, is pretty much a straight shot down 99 from SeaTac with very little need to transfer etc. I also don’t believe that she’s a criminal
Mastermind that would have the forethought to even think to create sighting. It just doesn’t make any logical sense IMO

Wasn't she seen getting on a train at the airport that went to downtown Seattle? Or am I mis-remembering?

jmo

 

[Deleted member 326769]

Wasn't she seen getting on a train at the airport that went to downtown Seattle? Or am I mis-remembering?

jmo

The sounder train doesn’t go anywhere near the waterfront or a ferry terminal. I don’t remember any verified sightings. IMO to be clear, im
Not saying she didn’t go to Seattle. I don’t know. But the reasoning of being seen at the waterfront or a ferry terminal doesn’t make any sense. Even if she was seen getting on the train, as it doesn’t go anywhere near there.

 

[Ontario Mom]

The sounder train doesn’t go anywhere near the waterfront or a ferry terminal. I don’t remember any verified sightings. IMO

The early reports stated she was spotted at 3rd and University, which is about 3 blocks from the waterfront, and literally a 5 minute walk to the terminal. We discussed this at great length at the beginning of this thread, as soon as the sighting was mentioned in the media.

 

[Ontario Mom]

I just don’t think it’s realistic. IMO. With the way our buses run here, it’s going to take some time and transfers etc to get from SeaTac to the Seattle waterfront. Tacoma, ok the other hand, is pretty much a straight shot down 99 from SeaTac with very little need to transfer etc. I also don’t believe that she’s a criminal
Mastermind that would have the forethought to even think to create sighting. It just doesn’t make any logical sense IMO

I don't know how familiar either one of them are with Seattle. What makes logical sense to you or me, knowing the area well, may not make the same sense to them. Did she know it would be faster from the airport to Tacoma, or did she intentionally take a bus down to 3rd & University to be seen in that area, intentionally? I don't think either of them are criminal masterminds either, but they did in fact make plans to ditch the state with the child so, maybe that dumb idea to create a sighting near the ferry terminal was one of their ideas?

 

[Ontario Mom]

"Sea-Tac security footage showed her leaving the airport wearing a black North Face jacket, a sage or olive green hoodie sweater, black yoga pants and white Converse sneakers and carrying a tan-colored shoulder bag, he said. Then she was last seen on security footage from Sound Transit about 4 p.m. May 29 getting off the light rail at Third Avenue and University Street in downtown Seattle and walking toward the waterfront."

Found Safe Post in thread 'WA - Seraya Aung Harmon, 2, Pullman, 29 May 2024 *father and daughter went on a fishing trip in Montana but did not return* #2'

Jun 23, 2024

Phones allow authorities to track. Leaving the phone shows preplanning IMO. If it were spur of the moment call or text from Aung, she would have been communicating with him while waiting at the airport with her family. If this was spur of the moment, she would have had to think it it was a serious emergency, then hide her distress from her family while she and Aung hatched a plan, and had the foresight to leave her phone. She would have also needed to know the public transportation schedule and stops - if she was a local maybe she already knew. News articles say there is footage of her...

• PommyMommy

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[Inthedetails]

The sounder train doesn’t go anywhere near the waterfront or a ferry terminal. I don’t remember any verified sightings. IMO to be clear, im
Not saying she didn’t go to Seattle. I don’t know. But the reasoning of being seen at the waterfront or a ferry terminal doesn’t make any sense. Even if she was seen getting on the train, as it doesn’t go anywhere near there.

Okay, but I still have the same question - wasn't she spotted at the airport heading toward a train??

jmo

Edited to add: @Ontario Mom supplied the answer in the post above. Thanks!

 

[sasha17]

"Sea-Tac security footage showed her leaving the airport wearing a black North Face jacket, a sage or olive green hoodie sweater, black yoga pants and white Converse sneakers and carrying a tan-colored shoulder bag, he said. Then she was last seen on security footage from Sound Transit about 4 p.m. May 29 getting off the light rail at Third Avenue and University Street in downtown Seattle and walking toward the waterfront."

Found Safe Post in thread 'WA - Seraya Aung Harmon, 2, Pullman, 29 May 2024 *father and daughter went on a fishing trip in Montana but did not return* #2'

Jun 23, 2024

Phones allow authorities to track. Leaving the phone shows preplanning IMO. If it were spur of the moment call or text from Aung, she would have been communicating with him while waiting at the airport with her family. If this was spur of the moment, she would have had to think it it was a serious emergency, then hide her distress from her family while she and Aung hatched a plan, and had the foresight to leave her phone. She would have also needed to know the public transportation schedule and stops - if she was a local maybe she already knew. News articles say there is footage of her...

• PommyMommy

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Either she wasn't familiar with the area or this was a deliberate attempt to confuse LE because that's the complete opposite direction of Tacoma. If she wanted to leave the airport and go to Tacoma, there are plenty of buses and taxis at the airport that would take you south to Tacoma. Taking light rail north up to Seattle and THEN going south to Tacoma would add a lot of extra time and effort to the trip.

 

[AmandaSkis]

I wonder why she was able to bond out whereas the other two defendants are still in jail?

 

[sassyblue]

I wonder why she was able to bond out whereas the other two defendants are still in jail?

Her parents. MOO

 

[CrimeDawg123]

I wonder why she was able to bond out whereas the other two defendants are still in jail?

It's pretty upsetting to me that she's out. It just reeks of privilege.

Nadia is the big question mark for me. I understand AA being jaded and controlled by his overbearing parents into doing something so unbelievably stupid. But Nadia falling into that? I don't get it. Was she so deluded that she threw her life away and left her parents hanging at the airport thinking that they'd say to her in the end, "Of course you did the right thing honey!"??

I'd love to know the details of this case, her case in particular. Although I expect there will be a plea deal and we'll just never know her details.

 

[Inthedetails]

It's pretty upsetting to me that she's out. It just reeks of privilege.

Nadia is the big question mark for me. I understand AA being jaded and controlled by his overbearing parents into doing something so unbelievably stupid. But Nadia falling into that? I don't get it. Was she so deluded that she threw her life away and left her parents hanging at the airport thinking that they'd say to her in the end, "Of course you did the right thing honey!"??

I'd love to know the details of this case, her case in particular. Although I expect there will be a plea deal and we'll just never know her details.

I think she was motivated by the ego stroke of thinking she was a "better" mom, prettier, and more praised by AA's mother than bio mom.

I also think she learned fast that being a mom is not glamourous and being cute doesn't help make it easier.

jmo

 

[tlcya]

I personnally, based on Nadia's role in this abduction and willingness to abandon all apparent good sense and a panned family vacation, feel she has main character syndrome.

Main character syndrome is the perception that your life is a story or a movie where you’re the central character. A term that was born on social media, it’s not a true syndrome or mental disorder. But it may overlap a bit with a handful of mental health conditions. Main character syndrome is also referred to as main character energy.

When you see yourself as the star or protagonist, you may behave as if you always have an audience. Of course, most everyone acts a bit differently when they know – or believe – someone is watching. But that behavior is magnified when you have main character syndrome. It’s not who you really are, it’s the image you want to create for others.
Main Character Syndrome

I think she saw herself as the heroine in this story.

 

[NCWatcher]

It's pretty upsetting to me that she's out. It just reeks of privilege.

Nadia is the big question mark for me. I understand AA being jaded and controlled by his overbearing parents into doing something so unbelievably stupid. But Nadia falling into that? I don't get it. Was she so deluded that she threw her life away and left her parents hanging at the airport thinking that they'd say to her in the end, "Of course you did the right thing honey!"??

I'd love to know the details of this case, her case in particular. Although I expect there will be a plea deal and we'll just never know her details.

BBM

Obviously nobody here knows why NC is out. And while people have put forth different kinds of hypotheses, nobody here knows exactly what she did much less why she did it. But answers to the questions you've posed about NC's willingness to be involved may have something to do with her being out.

I know you said NC being out "reeks of privilege" and maybe it does. Since we don't know why she's out, we can't really know that. But saying that implies if the Aungs were similarly privileged they'd be out too. I don't think that's true. And I don't think anyone thinks NC's role in whatever happened was "equal" to AA's or even equal to his father's. For example, there apparently have been past conflicts with the child's mother that pre-dated NC's involvement with AA. It's been reported AA kept the child weeks past an agreed-upon period in the past. The facts of the case, facts we don't know at this time, likely support much heavier involvement of the Aungs in the crime than NC. Of course, having a good attorney certainly helps so in that way "privilege" helps but it's likely concerns over actions the Aungs might take if they are out have something to do with their being held in jail. I doubt there are similar concerns about NC. And I believe those kinds of concerns entered into decisions about bail.
MOO