WA WA - Sky Metalwala, 2, Bellevue, 6 Nov 2011 - #10

[Oriah]

Media reported they were searching landfills but later that day LE stated they were not. They did say they had it contained for a later date if needed.

I brought the burying in the sand earlier and someone responded that if she had a phobia to dust/dirt she would have never buried him. If she did I would hate to be the one putting my toes in the hot sun in the summer to find that..

In the show she did bury the baby in the sand on the beach. In the end the mom and dad both confessed but the medical examiner ruled it SIDS and no charges were filed.

The photo she posted on flickr of the mountain was e-mailed/called into LE.

I was in ballard today in the industrial district and noticed how many garbage cans were open...so many places to hide a body here I agree, lots of really thick blackberry bushes to..

"butcher baker" In Alaska (serial killer)he buried most the girls in the sand/trees/ect. in remote places they never did find all the women..

If she keep her cell phone at home going to the hospital, i'm betting that if she did do something to him or was going to hide him after a accident there would be no pings Someone also mentioned up thread her mom lived close to a wooded area and was only 15 minutes away.

If he is passed I think he is in the water. With her OCD and using rags soaked with it when she cleaned..she would choose water not a dirty place..

I hope he was sold or given to a loving family or any other then the above where he is alive also!

All MOO

BBM:
This caught my eye as well.

A cell phone left at home won't ping from anywhere except where it was left that day. But surely she didn't leave it home the day before, and the day before that...?

And I agree about water. It seems that someone with that severe of a degree of OCD about cleanliness would put him in water and possibly wash him.

LE would have traced the phone records and prior pings by now.

 

[Oriah]

Kings County SAR dog teams lists most of their dog teams as air scent and cadaver (referencing their website.) I do not know the organization, and have been unable to find their certification process, so not sure what their training methods are.
This stresses me out, lol. Did they trail Sky and/or his sister as well?

Maybe someone else in SAR knows them. I'll ask around.

Also I read that Marymoor Park was searched? 640 acres is a lot to cover. Does anyone know what areas were specifically searched? TIA.

 

[~n/t~]

Kings County SAR dog teams lists most of their dog teams as air scent and cadaver (referencing their website.) I do not know the organization, and have been unable to find their certification process, so not sure what their training methods are.
This stresses me out, lol. Did they trail Sky and/or his sister as well?

Maybe someone else in SAR knows them. I'll ask around.

Also I read that Marymoor Park was searched? 640 acres is a lot to cover. Does anyone know what areas where specifically searched? TIA.

I don`t have sound so not sure if they mention specific location on this youtube link.

11/13/2011 (GMA - Sky Metalwala): Police search Marymoor Park for Sky Metalwala - YouTube

 

[~n/t~]

Marymoor Park search comes up empty as investigators plan their next move in case of missing 2-year-old Redmond boy

http://www.redmond-reporter.com/news/133752203.html

 

[~n/t~]

BBM:
This caught my eye as well.

A cell phone left at home won't ping from anywhere except where it was left that day. But surely she didn't leave it home the day before, and the day before that...?

And I agree about water. It seems that someone with that severe of a degree of OCD about cleanliness would put him in water and possibly wash him.

LE would have traced the phone records and prior pings by now.

I think that`s the key. The days leading up to his disappearance. Hope they checked her phone records. I`m guessing her computer was checked as well.

 

[Oriah]

Marymoor Park search comes up empty as investigators plan their next move in case of missing 2-year-old Redmond boy

http://www.redmond-reporter.com/news/133752203.html[/quot


Does anyone know if the area S of Marymoor along the river has been searched?

http://www.kingcounty.gov/recreation/parks/trails/regionaltrailssystem/sammamishriver.aspx

 

[~n/t~]

Video from Chopper 7 showed the King County Sheriff’s Department chopper, Guardian One, searching above Marymoor Park, search boats in the Sammamish River and a horse and rider combing the area. Ground crews are also moving across the park.

http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/police-expand-area-search-sky-metalwala/nFcF9/

Again, not sure if this helps or not.

 

[~n/t~]

Does anyone know how far or close her mom and brother live?

I`m very curious about the brother lending her the car and mom`s email to that reporter. Especially the mom`s letter. If she did write it, could it be it was to throw off LE into believing she and Julia weren`t that close but that`s not the case at all?

 

[belimom]

http://images.bimedia.net/documents/Bellevue+PD+Sky+Julia+photos.pdf
Was this the way the photos were displayed at the press conference?

The order they are in is very telling IMO. I was trying to figure out if the photos of Julia were in chronological order, and I think they are.

So we have all these photos of Julia on top, so they are what are most important. Sky's photos should be the main focus here, if LE wants people to be looking for him, but IMO they have their suspect and she will lead them to Sky.

In the bottom left corner is the sister alone, in a very interesting set up of paper towels and a huge bowl of food. Next to that is the sister with Sky.

Then, in the right bottom corner is dad, and above that, a picture of dad with Sky, at the bank.

The pictures with M and Sky's dad seem to just be showing what the family looks like, while the pictures of mom seem to be LE trying to tell us/her something.

r/bbm

I think the picture at the bank of Sky and dad is being used for a specific reason. They had other pictures of Sky and dad, so why use that one? I think it's a message to Julia...

Or they're trying to trigger something in her? A picture of Sky in the very place she may have gone "that day"?

 

[~n/t~]

r/bbm

I think the picture at the bank of Sky and dad is being used for a specific reason. They had other pictures of Sky and dad, so why use that one? I think it's a message to Julia...

Or they're trying to trigger something in her? A picture of Sky in the very place she may have gone "that day"?

I wonder who took that picture?

 

[jash]

Does anyone know how far or close her mom and brother live?

I`m very curious about the brother lending her the car and mom`s email to that reporter. Especially the mom`s letter. If she did write it, could it be it was to throw off LE into believing she and Julia weren`t that close but that`s not the case at all?

Julia's mother lives in Issaquah, which is about 14 miles from Julia's apt, and her brother lives in the Belltown section of downtown Seattle, which is about 15 miles away.

And IIRC, it was confirmed in SM's declaration that Julia and her mother had a strained relationship. Julia would say nasty things about her mother, but then she expected support from her when she needed it. I think it's interesting that there aren't *that* many photos of the maternal grandmother with the kids. I wouldn't be surprised if Julia's friend S** (who was labelled "grandma S**" on flickr) saw the children more often. I also find it interesting that Julia is apparently staying with her 19 y/o brother now, and not her mother. More proof that they aren't that close?

 

[Magdalyn]

BBM:
This caught my eye as well.

A cell phone left at home won't ping from anywhere except where it was left that day. But surely she didn't leave it home the day before, and the day before that...?

And I agree about water. It seems that someone with that severe of a degree of OCD about cleanliness would put him in water and possibly wash him.
LE would have traced the phone records and prior pings by now.

What about if the mother wasn't emotionally bonded to the child. This mother admits to leaving the children alone/unattended for extended periods at ages 2 and 4. She and her husband left Sky alone in a vehicle for an hour when he was only 3 months old. If she's not bonded with the child, would she still feel compelled to do the wash/wrap/bury close to home 'mother' things?

--off the wall theory alert---

What if she's not mother/child bonded to the kids and she came home to find Sky over the top disgustingly dirty... (recent pictures show Sky eating a snack or meal in the kitchen sink. He's being fed where he can be immediately cleaned.) Maybe getting overly dirty is too much to contemplate.

Is it not possible something (someone) could be so dirty she would choose instead to see him as an it, as trash, and dispose of him thusly? (And it breaks my heart to think of him that way, but I'm trying to think like she might have. Casey Anthony seemed to think that way, and AFAIK, she wasn't extreme OCD)

I'm just wondering if Julie left him unattended. He had a poopy diaper. Have any of you ever come upon a baby who woke up to a poopy diaper and instead of crying out from their crib, they decided to entertain themselves with their poopy diaper? Could an unbonded/detached parent like that put a live, dirty child (seen in the moment as a dirty thing) in a garbage bag and knot the top. thereby suffocating him? Double bag him? Throw him in the trunk of someone else's car and dump him in another apartment's compactor?

I really, really hope not.

 

[Oriah]

Question for locals:
It appears that exiting the parking area of the apartment complex would be easiest done by turning N on 161st Ave NE, unless you wanted to cut across traffic to the turning lane and wait to make a U-turn heading S.

That would be consistent with then turning W on NE 83rd, S on 160th NE, and down to 908. Is that correct?

If you then got on 908 and either crossed the bridge, or exited just before- what route would you take to reverse direction and head to the 2400 block 112 Ave NE?

Does anyone know what side of the street the car was found to be parked on?

TIA if anyone knows this.

 

[SurfieTX]

I think the picture of Sky and Dad was taken inside Dad's store. MOO.

ETA: IIRC, Julia was wearing a grey sweat pant outfit the day Sky went missing/on her walk to Chevron.

 

[SurfieTX]

Kings County SAR dog teams lists most of their dog teams as air scent and cadaver (referencing their website.) I do not know the organization, and have been unable to find their certification process, so not sure what their training methods are.
This stresses me out, lol. Did they trail Sky and/or his sister as well?

Maybe someone else in SAR knows them. I'll ask around.

Also I read that Marymoor Park was searched? 640 acres is a lot to cover. Does anyone know what areas were specifically searched? TIA.

Law-enforcement officers and search volunteers started from the east entrance of Marymoor Park as they expanded the search for Sky Elijah Metalwala on Saturday morning.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2016755921_missing13m.html

 

[nursebeeme]

http://g.co/maps/as3ca

Oriah, Here is the map I did...

 

[jash]

There's been a lot of discussion on here about the cadaver dogs. My thought is whatever happened to Sky, whether accidental or intentional, likely wouldn't have been messy.

I'm imagining something like an overdose (i.e. Julia gave the kids a lot of something to knock them out while she went to the marathon mediation session and it was too much for little Sky's body) or maybe a fall, strangulation, suffocation, drowning (we've seen photos of the kids next to unprotected outlets, electrical cords, plastic bags and so on).

Also given Julia's OCD, I don't see her keeping a body in her apartment for long. I tried to research how long someone has to be dead for the dogs to be able to detect them. Doesn't seem like there is a definitive answer but I found this:

a postmortem interval of 2 h seems to be a safely recognizable interval for the detection of deceased tissue by trained cadaver dogs.

http://www.pawsoflife.org/Library/HRD/Oesterhelweg 1998.pdf

Another possibility is that Sky wasn't actually dead but Julia thought he was. So assuming he was only deceased for a short while (< 2 hrs) or even just unconscious, there would be nothing for the cadaver dogs to hit on in the apartment.

If Julia then transported Sky in a vehicle, I can see her using one of the plastic storage containers we saw stacked up against the wall of her apartment in some of the Flickr photos. If she took Sky somewhere close by, I imagine it's entirely possible the dogs wouldn't pick up on the scent in the trunk or backseat where she would have stored it for the drive.

I know I'm speculating a lot, and I hate to be so negative, but given that tomorrow will be two weeks since she reported him missing (and likely even longer that he has actually been gone), I can't help it.

I wonder if the linens were freshly washed on Sky's bed and if all the plastic containers from the photo can be accounted for.

 

[Oriah]

There's been a lot of discussion on here about the cadaver dogs. My thought is whatever happened to Sky, whether accidental or intentional, likely wouldn't have been messy.

I'm imagining something like an overdose (i.e. Julia gave the kids a lot of something to knock them out while she went to the marathon mediation session and it was too much for little Sky's body) or maybe a fall, strangulation, suffocation, drowning (we've seen photos of the kids next to unprotected outlets, electrical cords, plastic bags and so on).

Also given Julia's OCD, I don't see her keeping a body in her apartment for long. I tried to research how long someone has to be dead for the dogs to be able to detect them. Doesn't seem like there is a definitive answer but I found this:



Another possibility is that Sky wasn't actually dead but Julia thought he was. So assuming he was only deceased for a short while (< 2 hrs) or even just unconscious, there would be nothing for the cadaver dogs to hit on in the apartment.

If Julia then transported Sky in a vehicle, I can see her using one of the plastic storage containers we saw stacked up against the wall of her apartment in some of the Flickr photos. If she took Sky somewhere close by, I imagine it's entirely possible the dogs wouldn't pick up on the scent in the trunk or backseat where she would have stored it for the drive.

I know I'm speculating a lot, and I hate to be so negative, but given that tomorrow will be two weeks since she reported him missing (and likely even longer that he has actually been gone), I can't help it.

I wonder if the linens were freshly washed on Sky's bed and if all the plastic containers from the photo can be accounted for.

It can be a much shorter period of time than 2 hours. Much. And if Sky was transported in a vehicle, deceased- properly trained HRD dogs should alert to the vehicle even if it has only been a short time.

I was told the dogs used alerted inside the vehicle- just not the air scent dogs outside the vehicle.

Is that inaccurate?

 

[Oriah]

Law-enforcement officers and search volunteers started from the east entrance of Marymoor Park as they expanded the search for Sky Elijah Metalwala on Saturday morning.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2016755921_missing13m.html

Thanks Surfie. Would that be NE 65th St- NE 70th? East Lake Sammamich? (looks like that area is closed (?)) Or is this the east entrance to the connector? TIA.

 

[Oriah]

Question- is it fact that the children were left alone for the 11 hr mediation, and Julia returned home alone? TIA. Sorry, still trying to catch up on links.